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Salamence banned from OU
deadae:
lol i never knew ppl actually like salamance....thats pretty bad guys every dragon falls from a sprinkle of ice from any pokemon with no speacial.... and uhh garchomp sux too he just a lil faster... dragons are pathetic ppl
Raikt:
--- Quote from: deadae on October 05, 2010, 07:26:05 PM ---lol i never knew ppl actually like salamance....thats pretty bad guys every dragon falls from a sprinkle of ice from any pokemon with no speacial.... and uhh garchomp sux too he just a lil faster... dragons are pathetic ppl
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Yeah, sorry. I forgot that the single most devasting type in the game 'sux'. Especially with the one one resistance, huge Base Power, and stats to rival most Ubers.
/sarcasm
And I fully support Salamence going into Ubers. Hell, I was one of the suspect voters that put him there. Something I will enlighten a lot of our users about, that they don't seem to understand, is that Smogon and its tiers are based of usage. Over Used (OU) are the top 50 Pokemon seen on nearly every team you go up against in there alloted tier. [That's how Alakazam made it down to UU. He is powerful, but people just didn't use him enough. He dropped to rank 50 on usage and was lowered to the next tier, UU.] ) Everything under that is Under Used (UU.) Then you have Never Used even further below that.
Now, I haven't checked the usage statistics for August, (Before he was banned) but I know that back in July Salamence was seen on nearly 13% of all teams recorded. (Out of over half a million battles.) Right, so he doesn't see a lot of play at all.
That aside, the reason he sees so much play? Because he is a dominating force in the metagame. Almost every team had to have a counter for Salamence. It was unacceptable to have a Salamence weakness. Dragonite, with his lower speed, is more flexible. And Flygon doesn't have the same offensive power. Kindgra, while boasting both, requires set up to be that powerful. Salamence could come straight from his ball, fire off a few huge Base Power attacks, and almost guarantee a 1 for 1 on the enemies team.
That hasn't been seen since Garchomp. So, I'm happy he's gone. Dragonite, Flygon, and Kingdra have seen a lot more use now. It's finally time for other 'mon to shine in his place. And, for the first time in a long ass time, the metagame knows what it's like to see some diversity. (Though, Heatran and Scizor are still seen way too much.)
deadae:
say what u will i've never lost for a reason and anyone who uses dragons i will poverise until they make one who is super fast dragon will always suck because of the x4 weakness to ice
Raikt:
--- Quote from: deadae on October 05, 2010, 08:21:12 PM ---say what u will i've never lost for a reason and anyone who uses dragons i will poverise until they make one who is super fast dragon will always suck because of the x4 weakness to ice
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wat?
And Kingdra, Palkia, and Dialga take neutral damage from ice. Latias, Latios, and Girantina all take 2x to ice. That's not even factoring in the newest ones in Generation 5.
Viper:
--- Quote from: Raikt on October 05, 2010, 11:10:14 PM ---
--- Quote from: deadae on October 05, 2010, 08:21:12 PM ---say what u will i've never lost for a reason and anyone who uses dragons i will poverise until they make one who is super fast dragon will always suck because of the x4 weakness to ice
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wat?
And Kingdra / Palkia take neutral damage from ice. Latias, Latios, Girantina, and Dialga all take neutral damage to ice. That's not even factoring in the newest ones in Generation 5.
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I think he meant pulverize.
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