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Kamaran:

--- Code: ---Dragonite (M) @ Life Orb
Trait: Multi-Scale
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Def / 252 SAtk
Quiet Nature (+SAtk, -Spd)
- Focus Blast
- Earthquake
- Thunder
- ExtremeSpeed

--- End code ---

Viper:

--- Quote from: Kamaran on January 06, 2011, 10:24:50 PM ---
--- Code: ---Dragonite (M) @ Life Orb
Trait: Multi-Scale
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Def / 252 SAtk
Quiet Nature (+SAtk, -Spd)
- Focus Blast
- Earthquake
- Thunder
- ExtremeSpeed

--- End code ---

--- End quote ---

Haha well you got Focus Blast there which is basically the same thing. Interesting that you run SAtk, most dont. Hmm i honestly dont kno which would win. If i was DDed i would say a Stone Edge might do the trick, and if you went extremespeed to hit first that wouldnt kill me so i would get the attack off. Eh idk. Im running with Band for gen5 atm to test it out so i wouldnt hit first anyway.

Kamaran:
actually I'm planning on letting you hit me once (you move first) with Stone-edge, which will do 1x dmg to do my trait 'Multi-Scale'.
Then I'll Focus blast you and let you think you've won while I go ExtremeSpeed.

Noah_Road:

--- Quote from: Viper on January 06, 2011, 09:41:14 PM ---I agree on the point that a superpower can without a doubt kill tyranitar, if he can hit first, which generally wont be the case if ur battling me. Dragonites don't tend to run scarf, and if my tar is using scarf or is DDed, which I usually use one or the other, I will kill u first. And no disrespect meant to raikt

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We are assuming this is a 1vs1 battle so Ttar won't be having anytime to set up DD because of the risk of being OHKO'd by Dragonite's superpower. Dragonite's base speed is also a whopping 31 points higher than Tyranitars as well. The argument might come up that Ttar is running choice scarf but whos to say that Dragonite isn't running it either. In this case, Dragonite will win more than half of the time.


--- Quote from: Kamaran on January 06, 2011, 10:24:50 PM ---
--- Code: ---Dragonite (M) @ Life Orb
Trait: Multi-Scale
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Def / 252 SAtk
Quiet Nature (+SAtk, -Spd)
- Focus Blast
- Earthquake
- Thunder
- ExtremeSpeed

--- End code ---

--- End quote ---

This is actually the worst set possible for a Dragonite to run against Tyranitar. First off, Tyran's ability, sand stream, makes Thunder's accuracy only 50%. Because of the permanent sandstorm, all rock types, like Tyranitar, have their Sp.Def stat raised by 50%. Focus Blast would never OHKO Tyranitar because of this. Earthquake won't do much of a dent either because of the lack of Atk EVs. Tyranitar will always beat this set.

Though it seems both of you have forgotten another contestent, Salmence. Salamence outspeeds both Tyranitar and Dragonite and can OHKO them both with earthquake or outrage, respectivley. Tyranitar's chances of comming back and OHKOing Salamence with stone edge are diminished thanks to its Atk stat being cut in half due to intimadate. So Salamence would win against all of these other pokemon 80-90% of the time.

Viper:

--- Quote from: Noah_Road on January 07, 2011, 12:42:07 AM ---
--- Quote from: Viper on January 06, 2011, 09:41:14 PM ---I agree on the point that a superpower can without a doubt kill tyranitar, if he can hit first, which generally wont be the case if ur battling me. Dragonites don't tend to run scarf, and if my tar is using scarf or is DDed, which I usually use one or the other, I will kill u first. And no disrespect meant to raikt

--- End quote ---

We are assuming this is a 1vs1 battle so Ttar won't be having anytime to set up DD because of the risk of being OHKO'd by Dragonite's superpower. Dragonite's base speed is also a whopping 31 points higher than Tyranitars as well. The argument might come up that Ttar is running choice scarf but whos to say that Dragonite isn't running it either. In this case, Dragonite will win more than half of the time.


--- Quote from: Kamaran on January 06, 2011, 10:24:50 PM ---
--- Code: ---Dragonite (M) @ Life Orb
Trait: Multi-Scale
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Def / 252 SAtk
Quiet Nature (+SAtk, -Spd)
- Focus Blast
- Earthquake
- Thunder
- ExtremeSpeed

--- End code ---

--- End quote ---

This is actually the worst set possible for a Dragonite to run against Tyranitar. First off, Tyran's ability, sand stream, makes Thunder's accuracy only 50%. Because of the permanent sandstorm, all rock types, like Tyranitar, have their Sp.Def stat raised by 50%. Focus Blast would never OHKO Tyranitar because of this. Earthquake won't do much of a dent either because of the lack of Atk EVs. Tyranitar will always beat this set.

Though it seems both of you have forgotten another contestent, Salmence. Salamence outspeeds both Tyranitar and Dragonite and can OHKO them both with earthquake or outrage, respectivley. Tyranitar's chances of comming back and OHKOing Salamence with stone edge are diminished thanks to its Atk stat being cut in half due to intimadate. So Salamence would win against all of these other pokemon 80-90% of the time.

--- End quote ---

I would never send a Tyranitar for a 1v1 against a Dragonite anyway. If he hasnt had time to DD i pull him out.

And ive never seen my Tar been hit by a Focus Blast before so idk if he would survive, but i do know superpower wrecks him up

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