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The Team Rating Thread
PkMn Trainer Black:
--- Quote from: LeoReborn on May 31, 2011, 10:14:16 PM ---
--- Quote from: LeoReborn on May 30, 2011, 12:08:09 AM ---Nitori (Vaporeon) (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Water Absorb
EVs: 255 HP / 255 SAtk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Aqua Ring
- Surf
- Ice Beam
- Signal Beam
Marisa (Jolteon) (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Volt Absorb
EVs: 255 HP / 255 SAtk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Charge Beam
- Discharge
- Shock Wave
- Thunderbolt
Mokou (Flareon) (M) @ Charcoal
Trait: Flash Fire
EVs: 255 SAtk / 255 Spd
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Heat Wave
- Flamethrower
- Lava Plume
- Hyper Beam
Rumia (Umbreon) (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Synchronize
EVs: 255 Def / 255 SDef
Sassy Nature (+SDef, -Spd)
- Yawn
- Dark Pulse
- Hyper Beam
- Moonlight
Yukari (Espeon) (M) @ Life Orb
Trait: Synchronize
EVs: 255 SAtk / 255 SDef
Hasty Nature (+Spd, -Def)
- Calm Mind
- Shadow Ball
- Psychic
- Morning Sun
Yuka (Leafeon) (M) @ Expert Belt
Trait: Leaf Guard
EVs: 255 HP / 255 Atk
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Aerial Ace
- Leaf Blade
- Synthesis
- Sunny Day
This is my Revised Eeveelution team
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my foreseen judgement for type coverage;
vaporeon- Good moveset since it can't (unfortunetly) learn EP
jolteon- to many Stab moves. SW is more than likely a must in case you encounter 'evaders'. you might also want to switch out discharge for HP(water) for type coverage along with canging the nature to timid for safety reasons(Aerodactyl with EQ) and use this EV spread instead(4 HP/252 SpA/ 252 Spd). Switch out the leftovers for the berry that weakens ground moves instead.
Flareon- again, too many stab moves. you could give it quick attack or Giga impact as a last resort for lava plume, assuming that you're single battling. you could also give it superpower in place of heat wave fot type coverage and since it's his best base stat.
umbreon- switch hyper beam for confuse ray. that's it.
Espeon- switch the Life orb for the wise glasses to lose the recoil and change the nature to timid.
Leafeon- we already discussed this one, so leave as is.
LeoReborn:
Flareon has Hyper Beam instead of Giga Impact, because its SpAtk is Higher than its Atk.
Jolteon has Discharge, Specifically for Double/Triple Battles.
If I'm changing Jolteon and Flareon, I'll give them Metronomes, because I end up using Heat Wave and Thunderbolt often.
Espeon has a very high SpAtk, but a low Spd, So, I'll give it either a Wise Glasses, or Quick Claw
Vaporeon has Signal beam, for dealing with those pesky Psychics.
Umbreon.... I thought Hyper Beam was a good Idea, but there isn't much use for it in Umby...
I think it can learn Substitute, so with its High Def, SpDef, and Leftovers, It becomes more of a wall. Synchronize also helps in case of Toxic-spams.
PkMn Trainer Black:
Wait a minute, Isn't signal beam's power 60?
flareon-I know that. I was just pointing out that Atk was its best base stat
Espeon- are you talking about your Espeon, because it is the 2nd fastest eeveelution.
Umbreon-sorry, but the only ways HB is stronger than DP is by facing a Fighting and/or Dark type. but Sub is good too as long as it is used right after yawn. I'm using the online dex to help because my strategies are limited by not having BW and being stuck on Diamond, making me a lone wolf. I used to have someone in school to help me with them, but he's moving and i don't have internet that is acceptable to my DSL.
Raikt:
Just to clarify some misinformation here.
--- Quote from: LeoReborn on June 04, 2011, 01:51:30 PM ---Flareon has Hyper Beam instead of Giga Impact, because its SpAtk is Higher than its Atk.
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Flareon's Atk stat is much higher than its SpAtk. Atk is sitting at a fantastic base 130 while SpAtk dwindles at 95.
--- Quote ---Espeon has a very high SpAtk, but a low Spd, So, I'll give it either a Wise Glasses, or Quick Claw
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Espeon's speed is anything but slow. It has a whopping 110 base in Speed. That is faster than most Pokemon and makes it the second fastest Eeveelution. Only Jolteon is faster.
--- Quote ---Vaporeon has Signal beam, for dealing with those pesky Psychics.
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Signal Beam has 75 BP. That means it has 150 versus Psychics. Not a slouch move in the slightest. However, Surf has 95 BP. After factoring in STAB, it becomes 143. So, you would have 7 less points of BP for the chance of hitting more than one Pokemon.
(I mention this because you mentioned double and triple battles earlier.)
--- Quote ---Umbreon.... I thought Hyper Beam was a good Idea, but there isn't much use for it in Umby...
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Umbreon's SpAtk stat is horrid. His physical Atk stat is mediocre. That's why he is generally used as a wall. Or a tank if you run his Curse set. It's also possible to drop a few points into Atk and give him Payback for some pretty reliable damage.
LeoReborn:
Rumia (Umbreon) (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Synchronize
EVs: 252 Def / 6 SAtk / 252 SDef
Bashful Nature
- Yawn
- Dark Pulse
- Substitute
- Moonlight
Marisa (Jolteon) (M) @ Metronome
Trait: Volt Absorb
EVs: 255 HP / 255 SAtk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Charge Beam
- Discharge
- Shock Wave
- Thunderbolt
Mokou (Flareon) (M) @ Metronome
Trait: Flash Fire
EVs: 252 Atk / 6 Def / 252 SDef
Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Dig
- Giga Impact
- Retaliate
- Fire Fang
Nitori (Vaporeon) (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Water Absorb
EVs: 252 HP / 6 Def / 252 SAtk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Aqua Ring
- Surf
- Ice Beam
- Signal Beam
Yukari (Espeon) (M) @ Life Orb
Trait: Magic Bounce
EVs: 252 SAtk / 252 SDef / 6 Spd
Hasty Nature (+Spd, -Def)
- Calm Mind
- Shadow Ball
- Psychic
- Morning Sun
Yuka (Leafeon) (M) @ Expert Belt
Trait: Chlorophyll
EVs: 255 HP / 255 Atk
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Aerial Ace
- Leaf Blade
- Synthesis
- Sunny Day
I took your advice and tweaked my team a little.
Also, Signal Beam is a 75 Power- Bug Move.
Bug>Psychic
Another team I've been working on.
Golem (M) @ Life Orb
Trait: Rock Head
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Def / 4 SDef
Brave Nature (+Atk, -Spd)
- Earthquake
- Explosion
- Double-Edge
- Gyro Ball
Arcanine (M) @ Expert Belt
Trait: Intimidate
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Def
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- ExtremeSpeed
- Flare Blitz
- Aerial Ace
- Snarl
Raichu (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Static
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 SDef / 4 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Volt Tackle
- Magnet Rise
- Toxic
- Charge
Gengar (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 255 SAtk / 255 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Nightmare
- Dream Eater
- Hypnosis
- Substitute
Dragonite (M) @ Expert Belt
Trait: Multiscale
EVs: 255 SAtk / 255 SDef
Hardy Nature
- Draco Meteor
- Toxic
- Ice Beam
- Surf
Muk (M) @ Black Sludge
Trait: Poison Touch
EVs: 252 Def / 252 SAtk / 4 SDef
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Acid Spray
- Flamethrower
- Focus Blast
- Sludge Wave
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