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Blaze Blaziken vs Speed Boost Blaziken

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xhizor8201:
Most people go with a protect/speed boost combo so itd be kinda hard to 1st strike/OHKO it. I personally like to give it brave bird because its pretty effective and i can simply use a fighting move on rock, steel, etc.

Aquashin:

--- Quote from: xhizor8201 on September 19, 2011, 04:11:36 PM ---Most people go with a protect/speed boost combo so itd be kinda hard to 1st strike/OHKO it. I personally like to give it brave bird because its pretty effective and i can simply use a fighting move on rock, steel, etc.

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thats how my Infernape is able to OHKO or 2HKO a Blaziken, because of Protect. when a person Switches to Blaziken, i make sure i have another pokemon in front, so i Switch to Infernape and he uses Protect for nothing, then i use Fake Out  and Mach Punch that are both Priority moves, or just use Earthquake

Noah_Road:

--- Quote from: shin21 on September 19, 2011, 01:37:56 PM ---
--- Quote from: Noah_Road on September 19, 2011, 01:31:58 PM ---What are you OHKOing Blaziken with? After a speed boost Blazi OHKO's with just about anything. I agree with you though; I will go down to my grave saying that Infernape is better with Blaziken with or without speed boost.

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simple, i have 3 Punch moves, Thunder Punch, Fire Punch and Mach Punch, the other move can be eather Earthquake or Fake Out. Fake Out cancels 1 move of Blaziken and finishes with Mach Punch, in other words, 2HKO, Earthquake its the one that OHKO Blaziken and which i ussualy use.

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Sorry to contradict, but Fake Out + Mach Punch won't 2HKO Blaziken unless there is a crit in one of those attacks. Plus Infernape has to come in perfectly on the switch if he wants to use Fake Out. Since switching in makes protect fail, Blaziken can then use protect again while you use Fake out then survive the Mach Punch to OHKO. Iron First doesn't raise Infernape's attacks as much as it needs to and he is actually better off staying with Blaze. At least with Blaze he isn't restricted to weak physical sets. With Blaze Infernape can abuse life orb even further and can utilize the mixed sets he's famous for. Also, a strict Iron First physical set is completely walled by ground types.

Mr. Fox:
I have been using a speed boost set for blaziken... it can tear through entire teams if they don't parahax him or don't have priory moves. as soon as you get one swords dance, and a speed boost... its over.

Aquashin:

--- Quote from: The Fox on September 19, 2011, 09:33:02 PM ---I have been using a speed boost set for blaziken... it can tear through entire teams if they don't parahax him or don't have priory moves. as soon as you get one swords dance, and a speed boost... its over.

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sorry but thats not interely true, if the other as a pokemon with Prankster like Whimsicott or Tornadus use a move to make you switch out your Blaziken, the status +6 go away

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