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Blaze Blaziken vs Speed Boost Blaziken
Bing:
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--- Quote from: deadae on October 04, 2011, 04:44:37 AM ---Infernape cant beat and is in no way better than blaziken who needs speed boost to be anygood at all... Honestly both him and infernape is broken blaziken without max speed isnt outspeeding alotta key pokemon but blaziken without max attack is just a slow infernape
charizard owns them both with the right items
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Bringing Charizard into this now :O
Charizard will never beat a speedboost Blaziken, it outsepeeds and OHKOs with Stone Edge. Infernape can beat Charizard most of the time if its carrying Thunderpunch or Stone Edge. Both of these attacks are rare on Infernape though so Charizard can come in easily to scare Infernape out.
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My Infernape runs thunder punch. It's great when someone switches in a Gyrados. (Which is the main reason I run it.)
deadae:
thunder punch wont kill charizard and stone edge can miss all u have to do is give charizard a scarf and there both dead or u could give him sash and there both dead he is not faster than charizard after one speed boost
Noah_Road:
--- Quote from: deadae on October 07, 2011, 02:25:12 AM ---thunder punch wont kill charizard and stone edge can miss all u have to do is give charizard a scarf and there both dead or u could give him sash and there both dead he is not faster than charizard after one speed boost
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When talking about giving items to pokemon in a 1v1 battle, you must always assume that the opponent can have the same item. Since Infernape has a higher base speed than Charizard, Infernape can use a choice scarf as well and outspeed Charizard. T-punch (using iron fist) and Stone Edge will OHKO a Charizard. The same goes for focus sash; Infernape will attack, survive the Air Slash, then retaliate for the KO. Blaziken is a bit different. You wouldn't scarf something that has speed boost so a scarfed Charizard would outspeed it even after a single boost. However if they are both equiped with a focus sash, then Blaziken will come out on top most of the time.
Level5Pidgey:
--- Quote from: deadae on October 07, 2011, 02:25:12 AM ---thunder punch wont kill charizard and stone edge can miss all u have to do is give charizard a scarf and there both dead or u could give him sash and there both dead he is not faster than charizard after one speed boost
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As Blaziken, Charizard and Infernape aren't usually run to counter each other, it's silly to make up sets purely to counter them.
deadae:
--- Quote from: Noah_Road on October 07, 2011, 02:49:29 AM ---
--- Quote from: deadae on October 07, 2011, 02:25:12 AM ---thunder punch wont kill charizard and stone edge can miss all u have to do is give charizard a scarf and there both dead or u could give him sash and there both dead he is not faster than charizard after one speed boost
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When talking about giving items to pokemon in a 1v1 battle, you must always assume that the opponent can have the same item. Since Infernape has a higher base speed than Charizard, Infernape can use a choice scarf as well and outspeed Charizard. T-punch (using iron fist) and Stone Edge will OHKO a Charizard. The same goes for focus sash; Infernape will attack, survive the Air Slash, then retaliate for the KO. Blaziken is a bit different. You wouldn't scarf something that has speed boost so a scarfed Charizard would outspeed it even after a single boost. However if they are both equiped with a focus sash, then Blaziken will come out on top most of the time.
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thunder punch will not kill charizard even with iron fist which is a horrible ability i think and i dont think he can learn any rock move stronger than rockslide and ok lets say with no items then...charizard still beats them both... well he may lose to infernape but im sry infernape is one of the worst pokemon ever made he dont kill nothing in one hit and he gets taken out in one hit
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