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pabloabeytia:
I agree completely with ursaring. The Nerf makes sense and the power of other fairy type moves are decent and don't hit too big unless pixelate hyper voice. Givng normal type a SE wouldn't make sense because normal Types are normal moves so any Pokemon can learn them for the most part. Giving fairy types a huge Nerf that was even more unnecessary. You're looking into disabling fairy types more than actually balancing them, xetroc

Tickles:
Again, I have a bias, so I know my points don't hold much ground. I would be happy with fairy taking a se from dark. I don't mind dark types taking a se from fairy. Dark types have the true disadvantage. Their fairy counters are easily dispatched. Put it this way, this system, though not a big change, can potentially help with balance. Dragons get a new counter in the form of Hydreigon, fighting types get Scrafty and Pangoro, but even these counters become a double edged sword since fairy would hit them a lot harder. This would mean the larger fairy types, like gardevoir, mawhile and klefki would make a person think twice about using them.

Roloc:
Sorry, but I HIGHLY doubt there will be any type effectiveness changes. We (PU) want the game to stay as close as possible to the original games. We change whats necessary and making dark SE against Fairy isn't. Fairy isn't OP, it gets taken down easily just like any other type. Sure, some of the fairy pokemon are OP (I'm looking at you florges) and it will be nerfed accordingly. Some will recieve small buffs, like carbink(got rapid spin)

All I can say is that you need to carry coverage moves. Load down with steel and poison attacks on your mono dark team. I have to carry stone edge and EQ on my mono bug team all over. I know it sucks to load down your team with certain attacks, but thats why it's harder to be a mono type trainer. It actually made my mono bug team weak to other pokemon when I carried too many stone edge and EQs, but I found a balance, and so you have to do the same.

Use Bisharp, I tried it out against fairy pokemon and it does pretty well. Stab iron head = OHKO 90% of the time. If something it can't take comes in, then switch it out. Don't let it die. Never let your MVP die too early. Like Heracross for me, most people think scizor is my MVP but I sack it a lot. IT's actaully my go to poke when I need to sack a poke to get a free switch.



Okay, MoonBlast will be changed to:

Moon Blast - 95 base power - 10% chance to reduce enemy special attack by one stage.

It'll be the same as Sludge Wave. If it turns out to still be too powerful, it'll be changed, if it turns out it was too much of a nerf, it'll be changed.
Thanks everyone for their input on moon blast.

Desbear:

--- Quote from: Xetroc on May 14, 2014, 06:28:59 PM ---Again, I have a bias, so I know my points don't hold much ground. I would be happy with fairy taking a se from dark. I don't mind dark types taking a se from fairy. Dark types have the true disadvantage. Their fairy counters are easily dispatched. Put it this way, this system, though not a big change, can potentially help with balance. Dragons get a new counter in the form of Hydreigon, fighting types get Scrafty and Pangoro, but even these counters become a double edged sword since fairy would hit them a lot harder. This would mean the larger fairy types, like gardevoir, mawhile and klefki would make a person think twice about using them.

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Before going any further, I will admit I have a bias on this subject, but I refuse to not speak. But, however, instead of just saying 'you are wrong!', I will instead point out OTHER counters that fighting and Dark both have, that can be used against fairies to your advantage.



Fighting types definitely have it better off than dark, right off the top of my head, With their Croagunk, Infernape due to its resistance, Lucario and its mega, Emboar, Blaziken and its mega, ANd maybe more!

Dark types, however, have skuntank, Bisharp, drapion, Houndoom, Even greninja if you play your cards right!



And while I could continue on, with more evidence as to why that would be an unnecessary change, Xetroc, it would seem biased, and we both know, so, I now await the judge's verdict... If he's not made one by the time I finish this draft. He probably has, but still. Roloc, your thoughts?

Tickles:
Ok, I'll lay off on fairies.

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