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Pokémon Discussion => General Chat => Topic started by: zorocario on October 09, 2011, 10:42:47 PM
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okay guys here your chance to tell people your ideas for new pokemon.
Ex. Steeleon STEEL TYPE POKEMON
ATTACKS
IRON DEFENSE
GIGGA IMPACT
EARTHQUAKE
STEEL BALL it make it harder for fire types to hit by double steeleon specail defense and defense.
Ev. 252 speed, 128 SpD and 130 Def.
now guys lets get creative.
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See my avatar pic? It's Houndeath, evolution of houndoom. Evolves at lv 56. Bases it's atk in special range, and has great speed, but not so great defenses.
(Courtesy of Fox, because Houndeath looks like a boss)
Houndeath. Special Monster.
Abilities: Early Bird, Flash Fire, Unnerve
Stat Spread:90/50/60/130/80/108
Sample set: Scarfed Sweeper
Flash Fire Ability
Over Heat, Dark Pulse, Hidden Power-Fight, Psychic.
Timid Nature
252 speed, 252 Special Attack, 4 HP.
Choice Scarf.
While not being the fastest sweeper around with a choice scarf that problem is over come. It can easily tear unprepared teams a new set of holes. though its lack luster defs allow for a faster poke to come in and hit it with a super effective move and ko it with relative ease. But don't underestimate Houndeath.
(Mine)
Void Attacker
Same set as scarf, but use focus sash
Moves- Flamethrower/Overheat, Void Howl, Hidden Power-Fighting, Dark Pulse
This set is meant to utilize Void Howl (See move description below.) By having the seed boost, Houndeath will be able to outrun most scarf or speed sets, while dealing devastating damage. However, an opponent using priority STAB moves can knock it out in one hit easy, given it's low defenses. A good strategy for this pokemon,is to bring him out on a Psychic type to take advantage of the immunity, then use void Howl. Focus sash is a precaution to priority moves, as it will leave you with 1 hp, allowing you to destroy the opponent, or get a health advantage for a bulky switch in. Flamethrower can be replaced with Overheat, giving you a chance to use the move twice after Void Howl, and either knocking out two of your opponents pokemon, or eliminating pesky stall and bulky sets.
(My own addition, a different move)
Void Howl- The user increases it's sp atk and speed (+2), but cuts its defenses (-2 def, sp def)
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Glaciator: Fight/Ice.
Stat Spread: 95/120/40/75/40/130
Ability: Ice Shield: This Pokemon is protected from critical hits.
Sample Set: Physical Sweeper.
Adamant Nature
Swords Dance, Close Combat, Ice Sword, Earthquake.
Item: Life Orb.
Ability Ice Shield
Evs: 252 speed, 252 Attack, 4 HP.
You might think one thing when you see this pokemon, Uber. And you are right, until you look at it closer. Its fight/ice typing gives it a weakness to most priority attacks, and with its less then impressive defs is is usually koed by any poke that can use them. So any poke that can use them usually will land a OHKO on Glaciator.
Ice Sword: Power:100 Accuracy: 90 The user draws a massive ice sword and strikes the foe. May cause the foe to flinch. 20% to flinch. PP: 5, 8 after PP Max
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Wow you thought about that quite a lit fox
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Glaciator: Fight/Ice.
Stat Spread: 95/120/40/75/40/130
Ability: Ice Shield: This Pokemon is protected from critical hits.
Sample Set: Physical Sweeper.
Adamant Nature
Swords Dance, Close Combat, Ice Sword, Earthquake.
Item: Life Orb.
Ability Ice Shield
Evs: 252 speed, 252 Attack, 4 HP.
You might think one thing when you see this pokemon, Uber. And you are right, until you look at it closer. Its fight/ice typing gives it a weakness to most priority attacks, and with its less then impressive defs is is usually koed by any poke that can use them. So any poke that can use them usually will land a OHKO on Glaciator.
Ice Sword: Power:100 Accuracy: 90 The user draws a massive ice sword and strikes the foe. May cause the foe to flinch. 20% to flinch.
Most common prio hits would not kill it -
For example, built correctly (likely 252 HP or Def, the rest in Speed - as you'd be Swords Dancing) - Lucario's ES would be a 3 Hit KO.
LO Infernape's Mach Punch a 2HKO.
Hell, even Conkeldurr's Mach Punch would 2HKO (without Guts)
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@fox: cut his HP down to 40-45, that should make him alot frailer.
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Glaciator: Fight/Ice.
Stat Spread: 95/120/40/75/40/130
Ability: Ice Shield: This Pokemon is protected from critical hits.
Sample Set: Physical Sweeper.
Adamant Nature
Swords Dance, Close Combat, Ice Sword, Earthquake.
Item: Life Orb.
Ability Ice Shield
Evs: 252 speed, 252 Attack, 4 HP.
You might think one thing when you see this pokemon, Uber. And you are right, until you look at it closer. Its fight/ice typing gives it a weakness to most priority attacks, and with its less then impressive defs is is usually koed by any poke that can use them. So any poke that can use them usually will land a OHKO on Glaciator.
Ice Sword: Power:100 Accuracy: 90 The user draws a massive ice sword and strikes the foe. May cause the foe to flinch. 20% to flinch.
Most common prio hits would not kill it -
For example, built correctly (likely 252 HP or Def, the rest in Speed - as you'd be Swords Dancing) - Lucario's ES would be a 3 Hit KO.
LO Infernape's Mach Punch a 2HKO.
Hell, even Conkeldurr's Mach Punch would 2HKO (without Guts)
Thanks L5P still haven't masted the damn damage formula. ::) but other then the faulty damage calculations what do you think of it?
@fox: cut his HP down to 40-45, that should make him alot frailer.
Don't want it to frail though.
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I think it would make an absolute beast of a wallbreaker and sweeper.
It's scarier than Weavile.
Pretty cool - I agree that it doesn't have to have its HP reduced by so much.
Maybe 15-20, not more. :)
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Thanks, I like making new pokemon set up, and fakemon. Still working on a Special Sweeper.
on another note, this could be considered my entry form for Balancer! 8)
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fox idea is really good man
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Thanks, I like making new pokemon set up, and fakemon. Still working on a Special Sweeper.
on another note, this could be considered my entry form for Balancer! 8)
They aren't actively looking for balancers at the moment, but if you really want to be a balancer, you should read this:
http://pokemon-universe.com/index.php/topic,1051.0.html (http://pokemon-universe.com/index.php/topic,1051.0.html)
You don't need to fit every requirement (for example, I'm not yet 18), but it would be helpful if you do ;)
and also this:
http://pokemon-universe.com/index.php/topic,1666.0.html (http://pokemon-universe.com/index.php/topic,1666.0.html)
Try filling out the form, send it to Level5Pidgey, and he'll evaluate you. I used Tauros as an example pokémon, but choose whatever pokémon you want and is under/overpowered. Be creative, surprise us ;)
Note:You'll have to learn to work with damage calculators and using the damage formula though, it's an important part of the job (the part that takes time :-\).
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ok thanks... I wish i wasn't dyslexic right now.
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If there is a formula, send me a link with it. I hate math, but I'm really good at it. I am not applying for the position, I just want something to do, as today, I have the flu, and will be very bored.
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ok thanks... I wish i wasn't dyslexic right now.
Just take your time, there's no time limit. The Tauros analysis I've made took me 2 whole days. How to improve the pokémon wasn't that hard, but the calculations etc took alot of time (coupled with limited computer acces :-\). Just work on it until you have the feeling it's done/finished/perfect. If you post it then, you might become a balancer (that's how it happened to me).
If there is a formula, send me a link with it. I hate math, but I'm really good at it. I am not applying for the position, I just want something to do, as today, I have the flu, and will be very bored.
the formula:http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Damage_modification (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Damage_modification)
damage calculator:http://www.smogon.com/calc/ (http://www.smogon.com/calc/) (I wish I knew about this one earlier, it's awesome)
But for now, Back on topic.
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I haven't thought of a name for this one, but its my special version of Glaciator
Dragon/Fire.
Base Stats: 60/90/50/140/60/100 Total: 500.
Abilitys: Flash Fire, Mold Breaker, Unnerve
Sample Set: Special Sweeper.
Ability: Mold Breaker.
Evs: 252 SpA, 252 Spe, 4 HP.
Moves: Hell Fire, Draco Meteor, Earth Power, Cosmic Drain.
Item: Choice Scarf
Nature: Timid.
With a Choice Scarf equiped, this pokemon can outrun and Destroy any pokemon that gets in it way. And with Cosmic Drain if they switch into a counter you can use it as a sacrificial lamb to prepare your next pokemon to take it down. This is not a pokemon to be taken lightly.
Hell Fire: Fire: The User cloaks its foe in an internal fire that consumes any hold item. Power:100, Accuracy: 85. 40% chance to destroy Hold Item. PP:1p; 16 After PP Max
Cosmic Drain: Normal: The user Absorbs the power of the Cosmic, fainting. Upon the next turn it will fully heal and power up the next pokemon sent out. +1 to every stat. 20% Chance to fail and cause the user to faint with no beneficial effect. +3 priory. PP: 10; 16 After PP Max
This is a dragon with two heads, one is always on fire, and the other is not. kinda like heaven and hell in one being. Though I think this one is a bit too strong...
Another one, this one if for Roloc. So make sure you tell me what you think buddy.
Again I don't have a name for this one.
Bug/Flying.
Base Stats: 110/110/60/40/40/170 Total: 530
Abilities: Speed Guard. (The pokemon has a 20% boost in evasion.)
Sample Set: Speedy Avenger.
Item: Choice Band.
Ability: Speed Guard.
Nature: Adamant
EVS: 252 HP, 252 Attack,4 HP.
Moves: Avenger, U-Turn, Aerial Ace, Final Gambit.
This is the best revenge killer you can find, anywhere. with 170 base speed he will easily outrun any non scarfed pokemon, and with a choice band, assuming you are using him as intended, he will always finish them off. Final Gambit if for finishing off any pokemon that has been annoying your team. Avenger is the obvious main stay of this set as it doubles in power if one of your pokemon fainted the previous turn. U-turn if for getting out if you use him as a scouting lead. And Aerial Ace is for stab.
Avenger:Bug: The user takes revenge for a fallen comrade, doubles in power if used after a pokemon fainted on your side. Hits through Protect and Detect when use with Speed Guard. Power: 55, Accuracy: 100. Hits through all forms of defense if used with Speed Guard. PP: 15; 24 After PP Max
Real pain of a pokemon, maybe a little OP.
For those who want to name it: It is a small pokemon, no bigger then your hand, it is a ninja bug as well.
Edit: I might make my own thread where people can request me to make fakemon...
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I can actually give you guys a versatile damage calculator that lets you test with base stats rather than Pokemon.
So if you wanted to say, change Pachirusu to Base 120 SpD, you can test how a Base 100 SpA Quilfish would do against it.
Or whatever.
I'll work out some way to get it on the intarwebs.
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thanks!
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that will be awesome
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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Amu12LJfJsACdFRXQnJlZTFlem5Nb0RrRUlOME92akE&hl=en_US
Here. I'd try and save it to your comps or something because no doubt someone will soon find a way to destroy all the formulas somehow.
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destroy the formulas? and thanks again.
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destroy the formulas? and thanks again.
People have a habit of corrupting everything that I release to the public XP
I'm expecting someone will mess up and accidentally save over some important cells at some point.
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oh, ok. Well I have it saved on my computer already. 8)
Edit: How do you calculate type resistance?
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Make the Weakness Multiplier < 1,
Like,
2x Resist = 0.5,
4x Resist = 0.25
Just as 2x SE = 2,
4x SE = 4.
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Thanks man, this will help in making my fakemon.
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I can actually give you guys a versatile damage calculator that lets you test with base stats rather than Pokemon.
Well you can change the base stats of pokémon with the smogon calculator I posted, so that's why I posted it :P
Thanks for posting the other calculater too, I saved it as a backup (since I'm used to the Smogon one).
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I did a small edit to the spreadsheet for whoever wants to see:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Am9GG-rwdOL1dFBUNFlyY3VnaFNta09peHVzbjdnamc&hl=en_GB
This way, you can also have 1HKOs and instances when the damage is so minimal that it's pointless if the other pokemon has leftovers.
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I did a small edit to the spreadsheet for whoever wants to see:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Am9GG-rwdOL1dFBUNFlyY3VnaFNta09peHVzbjdnamc&hl=en_GB
This way, you can also have 1HKOs and instances when the damage is so minimal that it's pointless if the other pokemon has leftovers.
Nice work Jerry ^_^
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Thanks x3
But thank you for the spreadsheet. I wasn't even aware that google docs had something like that XD
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yes that is epic, finaly got around to using it...
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For the record I have NO idea on how I actually worked out the Lefties thing.
Like, just... what?
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Charnaut
Char,from all it's previous evolutions,and naut taken fro the word "juggernaut",wich means unmerciless,undestroyable and unstoppable.Resembling how charizard whas taken down,and came back to own everyone.
A 4th charizard evolution,because.It desperately needs a save from SR.
Appearance,it simply is a charizard that slightly started to adapt to the human form,so it got slighly taller and tinner.
And has metal revested zones,mainly tail and arms.
3 new signature moves:
Flame Storm-User unleashes a storm of fire over the enemy.Leaving it with a remainer of 1 hp.Likewise the user get's brought down to 1 hp,and speed is dropped by two stages. Power-??? Acc-95
Giga Crash-The user wips the foe with the tail,dealing metal type damage.
Power-80 Acc-90
Fiery Bracer-The user defense rises one stage.
1 new ability:
Shiny Metal-the user starts the fight with 1+ boost in evasion if the weather is sunny.
Wath does this give us?A new physical sweeper.Playing as charizard always played,risk it all.
Hope you liked :P
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A new pokemon? I know some imporvements I could make on old pokemon, but I haven't given a ton of thought on new ones.
I would like to see a pokemon with good defenses, and either battle armor or shell armor. It will be able to learn bulk up, calm mind, and stockpile. Maybe not cosmic power so it can't get six stages on all defenses. It will also know recover or some other non rest recovery move. This way it can fully utilize the ability that prevents critical hits.
For balancing purposes, this wouldn't be a steel type. Unless it's a legendary that's meant to be uber. I'm considering normal, so it's not resistant to anything, and its stab attacks won't be super effective. That should hopefully balance out the ability and moveset.
The idea, of course, is for it to be a tank. Great defences, average to a little below average attack, and low health and speed.
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Poison is generaly a good defensive type because of its ability to block Toxic and remove T-Spikes from the field. a good type to pair it with might be fire to prevent burn, but that might make it a bit OP if it had the right stats.
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I actually just edited it to make it normal. I want to avoid it being OP, otherwise I'd make it steel. Unfortunately making it part fire would give it a double weakness, which is bad for any tank.
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poison/normal.
Weak to psychic, and ground.
Immune to ghost and for the most part poison.
That could work out. Do you have an idea as of how you would want to balance its stats (how low for the hp and speed, how mediocre for the attack, and how high for the defs) I could come up with a stat spread and a example set.
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Nothing specific. I'm under the impression that 100 is kind of the standard. Speed and health would likely be in the 50s or 60s, so something hard hitting could come in and KO my tank before it sets up. defenses could be in the 120-130 range, and attacks could be 90-100.
Once he sets up he should be almost impossible to KO unless you have roar, haze, or the like. So I'd like to leave a window open to kill it in 2-3 hits by something with an ATT or SPA in the 120+ base range.
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like a more defensive scrafty.
This is what I think of right off the top of my head:
50/90/90/60/120/30
Set:
Battle Armor Ability
Leftovers Item:
Evs: 252 HP, 252 SpD
Moves: Bulk up, Toxic, Recover, Return.
Calm Nature.
I am pretty sure I can improve that, but it works for now. thinking of it as of now gengar is a wonderful counter to that set, as it can't touch him.
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Yeah, like that. I suppose special attacks tend to be stronger than physical, so you made him more specially defensive than physically? I didn't mean for his special attack to start off pitiful, though.
Something like 50/90/120/90/120/30. That's 500, which may be a tad on the high side, but we could have this tank be a high level evolution of something with a lower stat total.
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Chardos Fire/Electric
MOVES
Blast Burn
Thunder
Flamethrower
Hyper Beam
Hatches from a bad egg [if your lucky]
Can learn any TM/HM but is born with Pokerus
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And its slow [speed stat enhancers/quick claws don't work on it]
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Yeah, like that. I suppose special attacks tend to be stronger than physical, so you made him more specially defensive than physically? I didn't mean for his special attack to start off pitiful, though.
I made a nearly prefect bulk up user, high SpD and a good Def stat to be boosted by Bulk up.
Something like 50/90/120/90/120/30. That's 500, which may be a tad on the high side, but we could have this tank be a high level evolution of something with a lower stat total.
500 is average. Its not too high in any way. And for that stat spread I would give it stock pile so it can boost both extremely high, quickly. After 3 stockpiles it defs would be over 1000 each though.
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Yeah what you gave is great for bulk up, but it's built to run both sides. I didn't know 500 was average. I figured 400 was. I'm not expert, though. I would put 252 in health, and the rest would depend on which buff I was running. Buff, recover, and whatever suits your fancy.
I might make it an armored feline named Panzer. A panzer is a type of tank, but is also close to the word panther. A big bulky sabertooth. There always seems to be a normal type cat for every generation, so this could be the gen 6 normal cat. In that case it would be battle armor instead of shell armor, and may resemble Battle cat from the He Man series. Or Panthor from the same series..
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ok, I was a little off, mid to high 400s- mid 500s is the average for fully evolved pokemon
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dam man your pokemon will kick my pokemon ass
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Yeah, he should be able to take just about anything. An alternate ability for him could be pressure, to wear down the enemy's power points while sponging hits. That could be his dream world ability, or just an alternate ability.
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The only thing I see with it looking like a cat is, cats aren't very bulky creatures. Cats are an inbodyment of strength and speed. I could see it being a dog like pokemon though.
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Ex. Steeleon STEEL TYPE POKEMON
ATTACKS
IRON DEFENSE
GIGGA IMPACT
EARTHQUAKE
STEEL BALL -it make it harder for fire types to hit by double steeleon specail defense and defense.
Abaitly is iron gate- fire and ground type moves dont effect steeleon plus all steel types attack increased by 2 stages.
Ev. 252 speed, 128 SpD and 130 Def.
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lol. That pokemon would never be made. I can see a steel eevee having heatproof at most.
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I know there are better animals than a cat to be the embodiment of a tank, but it just came to mind when I was thinking the name. Panzer. Panther. You know. That's a bit reason why I chose a sabertooth. It would have to be some kind of big beefy cat. Maybe not the best idea, but there are worse things out there to make into a tank.
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like a bunny. ;D
Edit:
Umbator
Ghost/Fight
Abilitys: Cursed Body, Skill Net(The user Copies foe's stat changes).
Stat Spread: 60/90/50/130/50/110
Sample set:
Nature: Naive
Ability: Skill Net
Item: Life Orb
Evs: 252 Spe, 252 Atk, 4 SpD
Moves: Shadow Net, Close Combat, Psychic, Earthpower.
This is a pokemon that is built to counter set up pokemon. Bring out a bulk up user, he becomes a bulk up user as well, a calm mind user, swords dance user, the list goes on and on. Gladeow is a fearsome pokemon you do not want to take for granted.
Shadow Net: Ghost
Power:100
Accuracy: 90%
The user catches its foe in net of shadows and drains a small portion of health form them.
recovers 1/4th damage delt.
Glaciator and Umbrator come from the same evolution line. Glacitor evolves when exposed to a dawn stone, while Umbator evolves when exposed to a Dusk Stone.
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steeleon is not a cat its a wolves
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I suppose I should try a sweeper. I like the idea of having a fire type with limber. Though that would probably be too similar to Darmanitan. He's a powerhouse that can't be burned, and all he would need is limber. Plus maybe a little more speed.
How about an electric and fighting type? flying and water are two of the most common types out there, which is what makes electric such a good sweeping type even though it's only SE against two types. The second most common is normal, and that's where the dual fighting type comes in.
A brown pokemon with yellow coloring like he's wearing a yellow short and those wrappings that some fighters wear. He'd be a physical attacker with all punching and kicking attacks, and mold breaker or speed boost as an ability.
Stats: 100/130/50/40/50/130 = 500. Paper thin defenses make him weak to priority moves, but he might be able to learn quick guard.
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What you need to take into consideration with a sweeper that is trying to hit the most pokemon super effective is; is it hitting the right side of the spectrum. physical has become the major way sweepers are hitting, so new physical walls are popping up. the only problem I am seeing here is electric is a special type and fight is physical. so for a physical electric sweeper to reign it would need some new electric moves.
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Something aside from thunder punch, huh? I guess maybe I could make him special, or make up some new electric move.
Ball lightning could be his signature move. 100 damage, 95 accuracy, and has a chance to make the opponent flinch.
Or how about flash strike? Same thing, but has the chance of lowering opponent's accuracy.
If I made him special, I'd want him to have aura sphere, or some other good attack that's more accurate than focus blast.
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The phisical moves are:
Bolt Strike
Fusion Bolt
Spark
Thunder Fang
Thunder Punch
Volt Tackle
Wild Charge.
More then I remembered, but two of those are exclusive to Zekrom. And the ones over 80 power cause recoil damage. But for a sweeper with those stats I could see making the Pikachu family give up its monopoly of Volt Tackle so it could function as a electric flare blitz.
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Anathema
Psychic
Ability: Unification
Moves:
Nightmare
Dark Pulse
Fendere Confuses
Pulsar
Tenebrae
Dark
Ability: Unification
Pulsar
Enlighten
Zephyr
Psychic
Unification: If another pokemon has this ability, moves that are of the same type of either pokemon gain a 60% chance to confuse or paralyze targets.
Basically, a Plusle and Minun. "Anathema" means "excommunicated one' in Greek, and "Tenebrae" means darkness in Latin. My translations are not very accurate, as I mixed lannguages, such as "Fendere Confuses". "Fendere" is French for rift, and "Confuses" is Latin for "chaotic". Please correct me if I am wrong.
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That ability would make them some of the best two on two battle pokemon. It's a bit OP but then again so is a steel type that can't be hurt by fire or ground attacks.
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I've got my tank, and I've got my sweeper. I guess I need something that can really annoy enemies. great speed, decent health, and the prankster ability. Its other stats would be poor, and the point would be to inflict status and force a switch to get the next one. Maybe a signature move that has a chance to inflict multiple statuses. I guess tri attack does that, so I could give it that. Maybe make him part normal so he'd get stab on it, and make the ghost have three heads that are yellow, red, and blue. Maybe also let him learn thunderbolt, ice beam, and flamethrower, but not the more powerful versions.
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name protogon
type dragon/steel
ability levitate/cloud nine
weakness fire fighting ground
hp 260-354
atk 130-262
def 157-295
sa 269-432
sd 193-339
spd 175-317
description: small pointy head. 2 long wings. no arms or legs. slithers or levitates. large cannon on back. created in laboratory.
flaw learns no moves over 90 base power