Pokemon Universe MMORPG

Pokémon Universe => Ideas & Suggestions => Topic started by: Draagn on February 03, 2010, 02:39:02 PM

Title: Light side ,and Dark side of pokemon
Post by: Draagn on February 03, 2010, 02:39:02 PM
I don't know if this is possible but i thought it would be a neat feature . In the real pokemon series we have the pokemon thieves Team Rocket . So why not make a Team Rocket of our own ? Players will have the option of joining either the dark side or the good side after they earn 3 badges . Those in the dark side will have the option of stealing pokemon BUT they cannot just steal a pokemon just like that . They will have to defeat the player 3 or 5 times in a row and after defeating the player they will have the option of taking any 1 of the pokemon the player is carrying . Players of the dark side will also have different clothes so that players can know who is who .

Then there is the good side who will also have different clothes and have the ability to retake the stolen pokemon . If a player has had his/her pokemon stolen then he/she can just takedown the name of the user who stole it and then the Good doer will fight ,and retake the pokemon from the player even if it is in the pc . Also only if the player is missing the pokemon can he/she retake the pokemon . For completing these quests the good doers get justice points which will allow them to buy certain very valuable items ( don't know what they are . I leave that up to the PU staff ) and the same goes for the bad guys only they earn heck points .
Title: Re: Light side ,and Dark side of pokemon
Post by: schindle on February 03, 2010, 03:19:30 PM
dont know about pokemon, but it would be nice if you could make special quests for different parties:
- quests for team rocket or quests for the police instead, and then improving your repututaion. when joining the 'dark side' your not able to make quests of the 'good' side. that would be cool i guess! the more quests your make for one of them you're able to buy special items. and in different cities your an enemy, in others not. dont know if its to hard to implement. :-)

for special gimmick you can choose diferent outfits (big R for rocket ^^)

Title: Re: Light side ,and Dark side of pokemon
Post by: Phosphorous on February 03, 2010, 04:50:11 PM

Then there is the good side who will also have different clothes and have the ability to retake the stolen pokemon. For completing these quests the good doers get justice points which will allow them to buy certain very valuable items ( don't know what they are . I leave that up to the PU staff ) and the same goes for the bad guys only they earn heck points .


I don't know if the whole pokemon stealing thing would work out. Basically because if someone doesn't want their pokemon stolen then they just wont accept a battles from you.
Title: Re: Light side ,and Dark side of pokemon
Post by: schindle on February 03, 2010, 04:53:42 PM
thats it :-)

would be cool!
Title: Re: Light side ,and Dark side of pokemon
Post by: DarK_SouL on February 03, 2010, 06:17:27 PM
i like the idea.
Title: Re: Light side ,and Dark side of pokemon
Post by: spirit on February 03, 2010, 07:23:33 PM
evil team member1: "bwahahahaha i have stolen your pikachu"
good team member: "oh nooooz"
etm1: "hey other evil team member, want a pikachu?"
etm2: "sure"
*trade*
gtm: "nao im stronger!!!!1 this tiem i defeet u!"
*win*
gtm: "hurray my pikachu is back"
etm2: "lalalalala .... wait.... wtf? where did my pikachu go?"


scenario 2

etm: "bwahahahahaha i have stolen your pikachu"
gtm: "aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah"
etm: "im never going to play this account (or verse you) again so you cant win back your pikachu! hurray for being a douche!"
gtm: "wwaaaaaaa.... ima go complane 2 teh develepourz"
Title: Re: Light side ,and Dark side of pokemon
Post by: Phosphorous on February 03, 2010, 07:39:12 PM
evil team member1: "bwahahahaha i have stolen your pikachu"
good team member: "oh nooooz"
etm1: "hey other evil team member, want a pikachu?"
etm2: "sure"
*trade*
gtm: "nao im stronger!!!!1 this tiem i defeet u!"
*win*
gtm: "hurray my pikachu is back"
etm2: "lalalalala .... wait.... wtf? where did my pikachu go?"


scenario 2

etm: "bwahahahahaha i have stolen your pikachu"
gtm: "aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah"
etm: "im never going to play this account (or verse you) again so you cant win back your pikachu! hurray for being a douche!"
gtm: "wwaaaaaaa.... ima go complane 2 teh develepourz"


lol<3
Title: Re: Light side ,and Dark side of pokemon
Post by: drpepper245 on February 03, 2010, 07:48:22 PM
Is it really that hard to level your own Pokemon that you have to steal from another? Not saying it's a bad idea, just the emphasis on the whole experienced trainer being able to train Pokemon faster.
Title: Re: Light side ,and Dark side of pokemon
Post by: Alais on February 03, 2010, 07:53:08 PM
Since when does Team Rocket ever successfully steal any pokemon? xD

I guess the behind-the-scenes members must do all the stealing.
Title: Re: Light side ,and Dark side of pokemon
Post by: silentkey on February 03, 2010, 08:17:08 PM
ya its goin to be really hard to get that to work, i like the idea of having different quests, or even same quests just when people want to PvP they get "team points" which will help them rank in the team, new ranks means somethin specail
Title: Re: Light side ,and Dark side of pokemon
Post by: The Fireball Kid on February 03, 2010, 08:34:22 PM
I don't know if this is possible but i thought it would be a neat feature . In the real pokemon series we have the pokemon thieves Team Rocket . So why not make a Team Rocket of our own ? Players will have the option of joining either the dark side or the good side after they earn 3 badges . Those in the dark side will have the option of stealing pokemon BUT they cannot just steal a pokemon just like that . They will have to defeat the player 3 or 5 times in a row and after defeating the player they will have the option of taking any 1 of the pokemon the player is carrying . Players of the dark side will also have different clothes so that players can know who is who .

Then there is the good side who will also have different clothes and have the ability to retake the stolen pokemon . If a player has had his/her pokemon stolen then he/she can just takedown the name of the user who stole it and then the Good doer will fight ,and retake the pokemon from the player even if it is in the pc . Also only if the player is missing the pokemon can he/she retake the pokemon . For completing these quests the good doers get justice points which will allow them to buy certain very valuable items ( don't know what they are . I leave that up to the PU staff ) and the same goes for the bad guys only they earn heck points .

You totally caught be off guard. It started out great..letting us players choose which side we want. Than you just went a whole new direction with the stealing pokemon idea.

Lets break it down and see whats wrong with that.

-After a completion of stealing the pokemon, bad team will not want to duel that person again

-Majority of players would want to side with the bad team because of the advantage they get.
Example: stealing pokemon

-Good team does not benefit from any this taking back pokemon idea(See above)

-Really? 3 or 5 times? Knowing that the bad team beats you 2 or 4 times, you would not want to duel that team a 3rd or 5th time.

-This justice points can be abused with simply beating eachother and trading back eachothers pokemon while still getting justice points.

-As another poster noted...Bad team can always give away the pokemon they stole.
Title: Re: Light side ,and Dark side of pokemon
Post by: silentkey on February 03, 2010, 09:49:59 PM
I agree with victory but I still think the guys heart is in the right place, I mean the stealing is in the show, but I can see a lot of problems with the suggested system, might work with a area like in runscape where players can attack each other only this is the area where u can steal pokemon if u win
Title: Re: Light side ,and Dark side of pokemon
Post by: Dellancher on February 03, 2010, 11:34:18 PM
Wow I thought this was actually pretty interesting.  I like like idea of changing your side - makes it more like an authentic RPG - but pretty much as everyone else said, the whole stealing idea only sounds like a gateway to corruption and who wants that in a mmo?  It would be cool though to see different sides though, maybe not just dark and good though.  Maybe some in between? 

Title: Re: Light side ,and Dark side of pokemon
Post by: Draagn on February 03, 2010, 11:39:57 PM
Okay so half good half bad I was trying to push it but now I am just going to run with it the stealing thing was kinda flawed but the side thing I think is my best work yet,actually only good one yet.
So I am just dropping the stealing and I am trying to get the sides in the game here we go more in detailed side idea.

It should be able to happen via side quest.Like different quests give good points and others give dark points (like star wars knights of the old republic),and so many dark points makes you eligible for team rocket and team magma and so on. This would open up several other quests  like capture the red garados and take him to your boss and thats a way for you to level up ,and work legondaries into the game like you have to catch a zapidos and you have to bring it to your boss no fighting with it or trading it ,its just a prop. Good trainers will try and stop you and stuff like that.
Title: Re: Light side ,and Dark side of pokemon
Post by: spirit on February 03, 2010, 11:49:32 PM
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but the side thing I think is my best work yet,actually only good one yet.

you do realize the ability to join teams wasn't just your idea right? people, including myself, have been talking about this since red and blue came out, and yes, it has even been discussed on these forums in the past. try adding a new spin to the concept before claiming it as your own
Title: Re: Light side ,and Dark side of pokemon
Post by: Draagn on February 03, 2010, 11:51:48 PM
you've got to be kidding me!!!!!!!  I used search I thought I was being original... :'(

Why did no one tell me this right away.  Oh actually I kinda did I introduced stealing to the game and a possibility for legendaries.... so ha!!!
Title: Re: Light side ,and Dark side of pokemon
Post by: spirit on February 04, 2010, 12:18:38 AM
well, its possible it was discussed in the previous version of the site and not as thoroughly since. though im pretty sure i have mentioned joining teams, but not as a main focus of a topic, so it would explain why you didn't see it in the search.
so i don't blame you
and yes, you did (sort of) come up with the idea of steeling, no i don't think this has yet been discussed on these forums
Title: Re: Light side ,and Dark side of pokemon
Post by: Draagn on February 04, 2010, 12:23:56 AM
Really your not just saying that.....you mean it...Thank you so much!!!! Thanks for saying my terible idea is original!!!

What about the special quests and stuff was that original to.   I have another idea how about it takes like 15,000 dark point to join a certain team like team rocket so you have to actually go to their base and join
Title: Re: Light side ,and Dark side of pokemon
Post by: spirit on February 04, 2010, 01:35:08 AM
feel free to write any quests you want, just know that just because you write something doesn't mean it will be implemented or even appreciated. i will however read any quest suggestion related posts you make
Title: Re: Light side ,and Dark side of pokemon
Post by: The Fireball Kid on February 04, 2010, 01:44:29 AM
feel free to write any quests you want, just know that just because you write something doesn't mean it will be implemented or even appreciated. i will however read any quest suggestion related posts you make

So what did you think of mine? the Magikarp one.
Title: Re: Light side ,and Dark side of pokemon
Post by: silentkey on February 04, 2010, 01:51:36 AM
Jeez spirit that's brutal man! He was just putting an idea out there, the way u critiqued his idea was just counter what this section of the forum is about
Title: Re: Light side ,and Dark side of pokemon
Post by: spirit on February 04, 2010, 01:53:25 AM
Jeez spirit that's brutal man! He was just putting an idea out there, the way u critiqued his idea was just counter what this section of the forum is about
sometimes i forget that people can't hear my tone or see my expressions when i type over the internet.. believe me when i say: i never mean to be rude
Title: Re: Light side ,and Dark side of pokemon
Post by: The Fireball Kid on February 04, 2010, 02:01:31 AM
Jeez spirit that's brutal man! He was just putting an idea out there, the way u critiqued his idea was just counter what this section of the forum is about

It's like the sayin...If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen!

The concept is fine and has potentail. Certain Teams are in different regions right? Maybe if we have something like...whichever region your in, you could help the team that is placed in that region out by doing quest for them and gain reputation with that faction.
Title: Re: Light side ,and Dark side of pokemon
Post by: Draagn on February 04, 2010, 02:24:44 AM
She wasn't rude but just out of curiosity what was your tone supposed to be..(clearly not kind or considerate)   
Title: Re: Light side ,and Dark side of pokemon
Post by: spirit on February 04, 2010, 02:29:14 AM
it was supposed to be realistic, if you have a good idea, people will praise you for it, if you have a bad idea, chances are you will end up being criticized, if you keep making poor posts, people will flame you.

i want people to make suggestions. personally, i love them (within reason), they help the creative mind, and the responses will hopefully help you to.

i was not trying to be insulting, just wanting you to know that you should not expect great things from every post you make, obviously the one i made a little while ago is a good example of that fact.


oh yeah..... and im a dude
Title: Re: Light side ,and Dark side of pokemon
Post by: Draagn on February 04, 2010, 02:39:35 AM
well I figured out the every post might  not be loved post (all my ideas ,all 4 of them are mostly already done or thought of)  But this isnt my last idea and like it or not PU you will be seeing me again with new even better ideas and....and ..........and,well nothing else,but new ideas lots of them ,so sure they may be hated or already done but I dont care because one of them just one is all I need,one idea that will rock the world of pokemon so you'll seee you'll all see.
(Slams door dramatically) 


ps no offense about the thinking your a girl thing my bad its just the avatar thing looks like a girl(no offense by that)  He has long hair and is kinda blurry and I am sorry
Title: Re: Light side ,and Dark side of pokemon
Post by: spirit on February 04, 2010, 08:59:41 AM
haha, don't worry about it, i find it comical when people don't realize im a straight guy. yeah, its been discussed on the chat. (seriously people, go to chat, you'll be happy you did, this is the sort of thing we talk about).....though i think i liked Alais' reason for why people think that way...
oh, and the avatar is of issac, you can see him as an assist trophy in super smash bros brawl, he is from the amazing game: golden sun


anywho.....back on topic....keep posting your suggestions please, but maybe if you spend some time developing them before posting them, instead of just doing it as an impulse (check with your real world friends, they may be able to help you come up with some good stuff)
Title: Re: Light side ,and Dark side of pokemon
Post by: chaosdestroyer on February 05, 2010, 11:14:48 PM
thats a good idea but i would probably end up with no pokemon
Title: Re: Light side ,and Dark side of pokemon
Post by: Janus on February 09, 2010, 05:07:38 PM
I like it AND the Justice points Idea, As I was reading this I thought of an Idea for a group that players could join called Team Counter-strike, a team that is based in a certain city but has members across the pokemon world so that if a situation comes up that local law enforcement can't handle, they contact Counter-strike HQ and they locate the nearest agent or group of agents and fill them in on the situation, and counter-strike moves in to take on the situation, Kind of like a global Pokemon SWAT team
Title: Re: Light side ,and Dark side of pokemon
Post by: Declan_23 on February 09, 2010, 08:23:32 PM
Hmmm "Counter-strike"? Sounds familiar...:P
Title: Re: Light side ,and Dark side of pokemon
Post by: Janus on February 09, 2010, 08:33:23 PM
Hmmm "Counter-strike"? Sounds familiar...:P

Well, counter-strike was a name I thought of when I was writing it, I'm going to start a thread Detailing what I was talking about
Title: Re: Light side ,and Dark side of pokemon
Post by: Declan_23 on February 09, 2010, 08:36:31 PM
Ok, I actually like the name, I was just joking because of the game called Counter-Strike
Title: Re: Light side ,and Dark side of pokemon
Post by: Nando on February 10, 2010, 02:54:44 AM
I don't think it's a very good idea now - but it can be tweaked to make it work.

Think about it, how would you feel if you lost one of your beloved Pokemon? If someone stole my Caterpie, I would probably never want to play this game again.   :'(
Title: Re: Light side ,and Dark side of pokemon
Post by: Draagn on February 10, 2010, 04:06:38 AM
wow I feel your pain man  but did you read some of my other posts in here if so you'd see the post were I said that it was stupid and I go a little more in detail about the sides
Title: Re: Light side ,and Dark side of pokemon
Post by: Nando on February 10, 2010, 05:37:58 AM
wow I feel your pain man  but did you read some of my other posts in here if so you'd see the post were I said that it was stupid and I go a little more in detail about the sides


Nah, I didn't bother. But I just read it and I like the changes.
Title: Re: Light side ,and Dark side of pokemon
Post by: Draagn on February 10, 2010, 02:14:33 PM
a lot of people kept saying the same thing like stealing pokemon is wrong and stuff like that so I changed it to just the teams
Title: Re: Light side ,and Dark side of pokemon
Post by: Janus on February 10, 2010, 10:13:34 PM
I don't think it's a very good idea now - but it can be tweaked to make it work.

Think about it, how would you feel if you lost one of your beloved Pokemon? If someone stole my Caterpie, I would probably never want to play this game again.   :'(

I know how you feel about it, If somebody managed to steal My Salamence once I get one in this game, I would be devastated beyond belief.  But Don't give up hope, If someone steals my pokemon, I will use it as a motivation to train harder (Insert the song Live to win by Paul Stanley) and one day, i will make my move to regain my pokemon!
Title: Re: Light side ,and Dark side of pokemon
Post by: Jerry on February 17, 2010, 06:08:37 PM
And what happens if the harder you train the more pokemon are stolen from you (for they are more worth stealing!) ::)

In case I didn't mention it, I don't like this idea. Maybe just making teams like this, with no 'special' privilege accorded, but only different quests perhaps, then probably, I would like it.
Title: Re: Light side ,and Dark side of pokemon
Post by: spirit on February 17, 2010, 07:24:11 PM
And what happens if the harder you train the more pokemon are stolen from you (for they are more worth stealing!) ::)

In case I didn't mention it, I don't like this idea. Maybe just making teams like this, with no 'special' privilege accorded, but only different quests perhaps, then probably, I would like it.

seems to be the general consensus. i will keep this in mind.
Title: Re: Light side ,and Dark side of pokemon
Post by: Skilganon on February 19, 2010, 01:42:36 AM
I think having opposite "factions" is a good idea, but the stealing pokemon idea i dont like, its a bit much, something along those lines is good though, jus not as extreme as taking someones pokemon, lol. Like different faction quests, maybe each faction gets access to different pokemon easier than the other (can still get the other pokemon jus not as easy as ur opposing faction and visa versa)
Title: Re: Light side ,and Dark side of pokemon
Post by: Jerry on February 19, 2010, 05:04:03 PM
The problem is that this is an MMO, it'll be a huge work I guess to make it the way you just mentioned, Skilganon. Some pokemon will be programmed to be less rare to a group, others to another group and those who don't want to be in any (that might happen) will have another programming for the pokemon availability, and neither of three should overlap to keep things smooth.
Title: Re: Light side ,and Dark side of pokemon
Post by: Sora on February 20, 2010, 10:00:58 PM
For now, I think most of us agree on fact, that pokemon shouldn't be stolen, as for the good and bad side, I'm in! It would really be interesting to be in  ____________ (enter name of the evil organization), to have diffrent qests, diffrent storyline,...
Title: Re: Light side ,and Dark side of pokemon
Post by: Skilganon on February 21, 2010, 06:03:40 PM
The problem is that this is an MMO, it'll be a huge work I guess to make it the way you just mentioned, Skilganon. Some pokemon will be programmed to be less rare to a group, others to another group and those who don't want to be in any (that might happen) will have another programming for the pokemon availability, and neither of three should overlap to keep things smooth.

Thats true, but each "faction" could have different starting locations lets say, and each starting location has different starting pokemon, and it would be harder to get to these locations for the opposing "faction" which not only keeps each faction semi_unidue to the other it will also motivate players to explore a bit more for the sake of increasing the number of pokemon they have, if that makes any sense, lol.
Title: Re: Light side ,and Dark side of pokemon
Post by: Jerry on February 21, 2010, 07:05:19 PM
I see the purpose... but when someone wants to shift faction? ::)

I can clearly imagine some people getting the easier to find pokemon, then change faction to get the other set of rare pokemon.

Or we might get three friends choosing different factions, they trade the 'rarer' pokemon to each other, thus nullifying the exploration factor.
Title: Re: Light side ,and Dark side of pokemon
Post by: Skilganon on February 21, 2010, 11:20:16 PM
I see the purpose... but when someone wants to shift faction? ::)

I can clearly imagine some people getting the easier to find pokemon, then change faction to get the other set of rare pokemon.

Or we might get three friends choosing different factions, they trade the 'rarer' pokemon to each other, thus nullifying the exploration factor.

Good point, but possibly the option to change faction just shouldnt exist, and could do something like no cross faction trading, seeing as they would technically be opposing factions, interactions like that wouldnt make sense, like was said at the begining "dark and light side" "good and evil" it could also give leway for some very interesting events, also the tournements could be more interesting if you had opposing faction teams for example, kind of like horde and alliance in WoW but without the language barrier and location restrictions.
Title: Re: Light side ,and Dark side of pokemon
Post by: Jerry on February 22, 2010, 01:56:45 PM
I don't think people would like to stay in such a faction forever. And personally, I don't really want to get involved in any of the two, so I might very well be in neither of them.

Tournaments would still be very interesting between two rival 'guilds' (no final name confirmed yet for groups), or more. I will definitely find it strange for members of a certain team be in different factions and in the end be one against one another. :o
Title: Re: Light side ,and Dark side of pokemon
Post by: Skilganon on February 22, 2010, 06:12:37 PM
Thats cool, was jus suggestion, i guess everyone jus has their own personal preferance ya know.
Title: Re: Light side ,and Dark side of pokemon
Post by: Jerry on February 22, 2010, 06:17:05 PM
Yes I know, mine also are only suggestions. That's how I figure what will happen, but that may very well not be the case in reality... I wonder what will be implemented...

Perhaps they could make two separate servers, one without factions, and another with ;D. Anyway, I'll do my best whatever situation.
Title: Re: Light side ,and Dark side of pokemon
Post by: Riny on February 28, 2010, 09:50:48 PM
guys how bout this idea i agree with victory but it all can be prevented by symply making npc team rocket so that players must fight team rocket and team rocket must fight back in case they steal ur pokemon and it should be only 1 vs 1 pokemon not like team rocket uses 3 on 1 heheh and ya the truth is they acctualy never stole any pokemon and if they are non playing chars so it means no pokemon will ever be lost and u always have a chance for rematch and once u imply into fight with them there si no backing up u must go all the way till end or team rocket can be made by staffers so it can be fair and if u beat team rocket to get some points or something