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Pokémon Discussion => General Chat => Topic started by: DarK_SouL on October 07, 2010, 01:58:53 AM
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Ok, it's hard to deny basically all the Dragon Type Pokemon are awesome! And Strong, but it is often a hard choose to which one is the best. So this is the place to talk about it! NO LEGENDARYS.
My personal favorite 3 (Can't decide favorite) are:
Salamence
Garchomp
or Sazandra.
I chose these three, because of three basic things, looks, movepool and just plain awesomeness.
Another debate is favorite Pseudo Legendary, but that's for another topic.
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I voted Sazandra, he just looks bad-a. Plus i like his dark/dragon combo, thats a new one
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ononokus is soooooo cool but his speacil defense is to low for me if ur gonna be weak against ice
kurimugan is too slow for me but he is nice... i don't like how it looks tho.
dragonite is excellent because he learns agillity if u can just survive any one attack do agillity then i think ull be able to handle anything he is pretty good i think...he looks like a huge baby tho...
and of course garchomp is nice----hes amazing like flygon but better
salamances stats are nice but me personaly have never seen him stand up against an icy wind...and thats pretty bad....
hmm if i had to pic a dragon before the fourth gen i'd say flygon all the way
but everysince then there has been garchomp he is super amazing just like flygon but better
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ononokus is soooooo cool but his speacil defense is to low for me if ur gonna be weak against ice
kurimugan is too slow for me but he is nice... i don't like how it looks tho.
dragonite is excellent because he learns agillity if u can just survive any one attack do agillity then i think ull be able to handle anything he is pretty good i think...he looks like a huge baby tho...
and of course garchomp is nice----hes amazing like flygon but better
salamances stats are nice but me personaly have never seen him stand up against an icy wind...and thats pretty bad....
hmm if i had to pic a dragon before the fourth gen i'd say flygon all the way
but everysince then there has been garchomp he is super amazing just like flygon but better
lol almost everyone picked garchomp i just now saw that
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Thanks for voting everybody!
My favorite Pokemon thats Dragon before Gen 5 is also Garchomp, he is so awesome...
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i couldn't choose between dragonite, garchomp, and flygon.
Dragonite's moveset: fly, focus blast, aqua tail, outrage
garchomp's movset: crunch, fire fang, dig, dragon rush
flygon's moveset: hyper beam, earth power, fly, dragon berath.( traded for palkia )
when they were all lv60 (before league start) i had no problem going through the league (Cynthia's milotic almosts ohko my pkmn) with just one of them by theirselves.
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Oi, I gotta go with Sazandra and Flygon, they are both in my team. Flygon is teh pwn ground dragon with good tm moves and learnset, Sazandra is teh epic dragon/dark, also with levitate! Plus he has good spe A and Speed with which my team is consistant, plus they both look so cool 0_o
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I like Garchomp because he's powerful. That new pure dragon type with the mold breaker ability should be good. I like Flygon because he covers Empoleon's weaknesses well.
I haven't trained many dragons, though, so I don't have much of an opinion.
As a water type fan, I must say Kingdra is good too.
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I'm sticking with Dragonite, since he has been around since the first gen, and i happen to prefer the first gen pokemon over most others. Besides from that, i love the moveset available, but due to the types, 4x weakness to ice can be a pain in the rear. But all pokemon need a weakness otherwise it just wouldn't be fair.
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I personally really like Ononokusu because hes just awesome, but i had to go with flygon because he has very good stats and he learns pretty good moves.
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Flygon for me
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Whaaaaaat? No Kingdra? This is Madness! MADNESS!
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Yeah, it's definitely not a full list of dragon types.
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Dragonite.
I like a lot of the new Pokemon, but the originals are still some of the best. If it wasn't Dragonite, it was going to be Altaria. No particular reason, I just like it.
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Peh, I think the ultimate debate would be more alon the lines of... y'know...
Abortion.
Either way, the best dragon is Garydos. Doesn't watching pathetic little magikarp turn into Big bad Garydos remind you of the Karate Kid?
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Abortion doesn't have anything to do with Pokemon.
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What's your point, vanessa?
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Don't post off topic?
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Either way, the best dragon is Garydos. Doesn't watching pathetic little magikarp turn into Big bad Garydos remind you of the Karate Kid?
...I didn't?
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You know Gyarados is not a dragon. Or did other people mention non dragon types? Not sure.
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By TYPE, maybe not, But its design is very clearly based off a chinese dragon, as well as the fact it learns mostly dragon type moves. It also has the same crazy-ass stats of a dragon type, and even happens to be one of the pokemon of Lance, the Dragon-type member of the elite four.
So... in a way... Garydos is more like a dragon than most dragon types. Especially Flygon and Kingdra.
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My personal favorites are Flygon, Kingdra, and Dragonite.
If you play Flygon right, he can really help your overall party.
Dragonite has great Defense, has Superpower AND Extremespeed (one of my favorite moves)
And Kingdra is just bloody SCARY. I get terrified whenever someone throws him, so he definitely makes my favorite list.
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I really hate Garchomp. He's just ugly, but I do like salamence. Although, both still should remain banned in the b/w metagame.
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Either the new pure dragon one (can never remember his name), or Sazoranda (It think that's his name. not sure.) they are sweet!!!!
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not big on dragons but the first is still the best ... my favs in order
1 dragonite
2 garchomp
3 kingdra
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garchomp is in the lead
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I'm not sure why Charizard isn't considered a Dragon type...He is most definitely a dragon; anyone with eyes can see that, but apparently the makers of Pokemon can't.
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he has the looks of a dragon. the only possible reason i can think of is Charizard"s name broken down
Charizard= Charcol Lizard
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I was thinking you could add some letter like this: Charizard+"g","o","n" then take out the "Chariz" and reverse the "dra" and you get "Dragon". See it all makes sense when you think about it like that. ;)
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That is a good way to look at it. but I still think that he is over rated.
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I dunno he's pretty sweet. :)
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Yeah alot of people like him this is only my opinion, and you know what they say about opinions.
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“Make sure you have a different opinion and people will talk about you”
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Salamence is the Dragon God, end of story.
Tis the truth
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True that he has superior speed and attacking stats than his counter parts, he has a draw back, his defenses suck! he can barely survive an ice based move. he carries a double weakness to ice. not a "GOD" as you say. If we are talking about dragons before gen 5 dragonite, after, Sazandora. (I think that is how you spell it.)
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True that he has superior speed and attacking stats than his counter parts, he has a draw back, his defenses suck! he can barely survive an ice based move. he carries a double weakness to ice. not a "GOD" as you say. If we are talking about dragons before gen 5 dragonite, after, Sazandora. (I think that is how you spell it.)
And why would dragonite be superior to salamence? They have the same typing, and the only thing dragonite has on salamence is better defense, which i would take the better offence on salamence any day.
There is a reason Salamence is listed as Uber and Dragonite isnt
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Its all about flygon.
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Its all about flygon.
Haha Flygon is my least favorite, i just cant get over those eyes
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I would say the nickname "Spirit of the Desert" makes him a lot more awesomer, besides his stats.
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True that he has superior speed and attacking stats than his counter parts, he has a draw back, his defenses suck! he can barely survive an ice based move. he carries a double weakness to ice. not a "GOD" as you say. If we are talking about dragons before gen 5 dragonite, after, Sazandora. (I think that is how you spell it.)
And why would dragonite be superior to salamence? They have the same typing, and the only thing dragonite has on salamence is better defense, which i would take the better offence on salamence any day.
There is a reason Salamence is listed as Uber and Dragonite isnt
Another example of differing opinions, most of my team is usually frail sweepers that hit hard and die quickly, so I like to have at least one pokemon that can take at least one hit and come back for vengeance when I am done. Besides that their attack stat is only 2 points away from each other, Salamance 405, Dragonite 403, because of his superior defenses he is "BETTER". On top of that Dragonite can learn dragon dance wich means he can get faster, and faster, and faster, and faster, and faster. and FASTER!!!!!!
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moved to next post
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According to Smogon, pokemon with balanced stats tend to be underused because most trainers go for the extremes. They mentioned that with Dragonite's better defense, and his ability to put up screens, he can take a hit from an ice attack. However most people still use Salamence as a sweeper.
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True that he has superior speed and attacking stats than his counter parts, he has a draw back, his defenses suck! he can barely survive an ice based move. he carries a double weakness to ice. not a "GOD" as you say. If we are talking about dragons before gen 5 dragonite, after, Sazandora. (I think that is how you spell it.)
And why would dragonite be superior to salamence? They have the same typing, and the only thing dragonite has on salamence is better defense, which i would take the better offence on salamence any day.
There is a reason Salamence is listed as Uber and Dragonite isnt
Another example of differing opinions, most of my team is usually frail sweepers that hit hard and die quickly, so I like to have at least one pokemon that can take at least one hit and come back for vengeance when I am done. Besides that their attack stat is only 2 points away from each other, Salamence 405, Dragonite 403, because of his superior defenses he is "BETTER". On top of that Dragonite can learn dragon dance wich means he can get faster, and faster, and faster, and faster, and faster. and FASTER!!!!!!
So tell me why Salamence is still an uber and Dragonite isnt then if you still believe hes better?
To educate you as to why, here is this: Salamence has better Attack, HP, SpAtk, and Speed, AND he can learn Dragon Dance also. The only thing Dragonite has on Salamence is superior defense and SpDef, but that becomes void because sweepers dont need that. If you have ever played competitively you would know that the only effective way to use Dragonite is as a support(which is rare) and a sweeper, and Salamence is almost always used as a sweeper. Because of this, Salamence is a better option over Dragonite as a sweeper because the goal of a sweeper is not to take hits, its to kill... fast. Unless you would be using Dragonite as a support for some unknown reason, Salamence is the better option.
However you couldnt even pick Salamence is a Shoddy Battle because hes Uber and most battles are done in OU, but that's beside the point. There aren't tiers in PU.
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True that he has superior speed and attacking stats than his counter parts, he has a draw back, his defenses suck! he can barely survive an ice based move. he carries a double weakness to ice. not a "GOD" as you say. If we are talking about dragons before gen 5 dragonite, after, Sazandora. (I think that is how you spell it.)
And why would dragonite be superior to salamence? They have the same typing, and the only thing dragonite has on salamence is better defense, which i would take the better offence on salamence any day.
There is a reason Salamence is listed as Uber and Dragonite isnt
Another example of differing opinions, most of my team is usually frail sweepers that hit hard and die quickly, so I like to have at least one pokemon that can take at least one hit and come back for vengeance when I am done. Besides that their attack stat is only 2 points away from each other, Salamence 405, Dragonite 403, because of his superior defenses he is "BETTER". On top of that Dragonite can learn dragon dance wich means he can get faster, and faster, and faster, and faster, and faster. and FASTER!!!!!!
So tell me why Salamence is still an uber and Dragonite isnt then if you still believe hes better?
To educate you as to why, here is this: Salamence has better Attack, HP, SpAtk, and Speed, AND he can learn Dragon Dance also. The only thing Dragonite has on Salamence is superior defense and SpDef, but that becomes void because sweepers dont need that. If you have ever played competitively you would know that the only effective way to use Dragonite is as a support(which is rare) and a sweeper, and Salamence is almost always used as a sweeper. Because of this, Salamence is a better option over Dragonite as a sweeper because the goal of a sweeper is not to take hits, its to kill... fast. Unless you would be using Dragonite as a support for some unknown reason, Salamence is the better option.
However you couldnt even pick Salamence is a Shoddy Battle because hes Uber and most battles are done in OU, but that's beside the point. There aren't tiers in PU.
For starters I know that Salamence can learn Dragon Dance, And I have never played competivily, none of my friends like pokemon, and I don't have a viable wireless internet connection. Second, we will never see eye to eye, you like fast sweepers, I like a sweeper that can take a hit or two. Differing opinions of what makes a good sweeper. But if you read my last post I say that I like fragile Sweepers that can be taken down with one hit, so I always have one pokemon that can take a hit very well, and survive with enough HP to win the battle.
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True that he has superior speed and attacking stats than his counter parts, he has a draw back, his defenses suck! he can barely survive an ice based move. he carries a double weakness to ice. not a "GOD" as you say. If we are talking about dragons before gen 5 dragonite, after, Sazandora. (I think that is how you spell it.)
And why would dragonite be superior to salamence? They have the same typing, and the only thing dragonite has on salamence is better defense, which i would take the better offence on salamence any day.
There is a reason Salamence is listed as Uber and Dragonite isnt
Another example of differing opinions, most of my team is usually frail sweepers that hit hard and die quickly, so I like to have at least one pokemon that can take at least one hit and come back for vengeance when I am done. Besides that their attack stat is only 2 points away from each other, Salamence 405, Dragonite 403, because of his superior defenses he is "BETTER". On top of that Dragonite can learn dragon dance wich means he can get faster, and faster, and faster, and faster, and faster. and FASTER!!!!!!
So tell me why Salamence is still an uber and Dragonite isnt then if you still believe hes better?
To educate you as to why, here is this: Salamence has better Attack, HP, SpAtk, and Speed, AND he can learn Dragon Dance also. The only thing Dragonite has on Salamence is superior defense and SpDef, but that becomes void because sweepers dont need that. If you have ever played competitively you would know that the only effective way to use Dragonite is as a support(which is rare) and a sweeper, and Salamence is almost always used as a sweeper. Because of this, Salamence is a better option over Dragonite as a sweeper because the goal of a sweeper is not to take hits, its to kill... fast. Unless you would be using Dragonite as a support for some unknown reason, Salamence is the better option.
However you couldnt even pick Salamence is a Shoddy Battle because hes Uber and most battles are done in OU, but that's beside the point. There aren't tiers in PU.
For starters I know that Salamence can learn Dragon Dance, And I have never played competivily, none of my friends like pokemon, and I don't have a viable wireless internet connection. Second, we will never see eye to eye, you like fast sweepers, I like a sweeper that can take a hit or two. Differing opinions of what makes a good sweeper. But if you read my last post I say that I like fragile Sweepers that can be taken down with one hit, so I always have one pokemon that can take a hit very well, and survive with enough HP to win the battle.
What does having a viable wireless internet connection have to do with this? If your saying you doubt you could do shoddy battle then good luck playing PU.
And your downfall is that you have never played competitively. Believe me, it will change how you view alot of pokemon once you do. Its not that hard to play shoddy battle, try it out.
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Salamence is OU in some servers. He was in OU in the server I went to, which I believe was Smogon University. dragonite was UU, though, so Salamence was still a tier level higher.
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Salamence is OU in some servers. He was in OU in the server I went to, which I believe was Smogon University. dragonite was UU, though, so Salamence was still a tier level higher.
When was the last time you played there? Because Salamence is now Uber on Smogon and Dragonite is OU. Dont kno when they changed it.
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True that he has superior speed and attacking stats than his counter parts, he has a draw back, his defenses suck! he can barely survive an ice based move. he carries a double weakness to ice. not a "GOD" as you say. If we are talking about dragons before gen 5 dragonite, after, Sazandora. (I think that is how you spell it.)
And why would dragonite be superior to salamence? They have the same typing, and the only thing dragonite has on salamence is better defense, which i would take the better offence on salamence any day.
There is a reason Salamence is listed as Uber and Dragonite isnt
Another example of differing opinions, most of my team is usually frail sweepers that hit hard and die quickly, so I like to have at least one pokemon that can take at least one hit and come back for vengeance when I am done. Besides that their attack stat is only 2 points away from each other, Salamence 405, Dragonite 403, because of his superior defenses he is "BETTER". On top of that Dragonite can learn dragon dance wich means he can get faster, and faster, and faster, and faster, and faster. and FASTER!!!!!!
So tell me why Salamence is still an uber and Dragonite isnt then if you still believe hes better?
To educate you as to why, here is this: Salamence has better Attack, HP, SpAtk, and Speed, AND he can learn Dragon Dance also. The only thing Dragonite has on Salamence is superior defense and SpDef, but that becomes void because sweepers dont need that. If you have ever played competitively you would know that the only effective way to use Dragonite is as a support(which is rare) and a sweeper, and Salamence is almost always used as a sweeper. Because of this, Salamence is a better option over Dragonite as a sweeper because the goal of a sweeper is not to take hits, its to kill... fast. Unless you would be using Dragonite as a support for some unknown reason, Salamence is the better option.
However you couldnt even pick Salamence is a Shoddy Battle because hes Uber and most battles are done in OU, but that's beside the point. There aren't tiers in PU.
For starters I know that Salamence can learn Dragon Dance, And I have never played competivily, none of my friends like pokemon, and I don't have a viable wireless internet connection. Second, we will never see eye to eye, you like fast sweepers, I like a sweeper that can take a hit or two. Differing opinions of what makes a good sweeper. But if you read my last post I say that I like fragile Sweepers that can be taken down with one hit, so I always have one pokemon that can take a hit very well, and survive with enough HP to win the battle.
What does having a viable wireless internet connection have to do with this? If your saying you doubt you could do shoddy battle then good luck playing PU.
And your downfall is that you have never played competitively. Believe me, it will change how you view alot of pokemon once you do. Its not that hard to play shoddy battle, try it out.
Ahhhhh shody battle, I tried it once but now I can't use it any more I am going to try to reinstall it thx for the advice
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Make sure you have Java. that's what happened to me. I got a new hard drive, and couldn't play SB, but eventually I remembered I needed Java.
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Yeah all I had to do was re install it, it works now!