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Pokémon Discussion => General Chat => Topic started by: pacjap432 on July 01, 2010, 06:01:32 PM
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Mew can know any move possible, but Arceus has the highest stats of any Pokemon
it is a hard question: Who is better Mew or Arceus?
( or another because there are many other good Pokemon so please include it in a comment)
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Absol. No doubt.
After that, Togekiss..
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Both are incredibly diverse, but I give the award of best Pokemon ever to Arceus, just 'cause he's a god and can kill us all if we say differently.
But really, Arceus truly is a competitive god. I can't even begin to explain how much people could rape with him if he was actually accepted in battles, and there's a good reason he's not. He's just so unpredictable, and with those monstrous stats, you have very little chance of actually preparing the right way for him. I mean, at least you know what TYPE Mew is going to be when you go up against it. With Arceus you just plain don't know.
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i dont know much about the newer generations, im a lil out of date when it comes to pokemon, but i st5ill love it and im trying to catch up, but for now i would have to say mew
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As soon as pokemon said Arceus was god, I made a gigantic conspiracy theory of the cristian church for fun.
Arceus was god, and since Mew was supposed to be the original pokemon then he was a jesus.
Mewtwo was the antichrist and Giratina was satan.
My religion teacher got somewhat upset when I claimed thats what actually happened and the christians just changed what they looked like and killed all of the pokemon. It turned into a giant class joke just to mess with the teacher.
Needless to say I was sent down to the office for "conspiring against the religion of the school" or something like that.
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As soon as pokemon said Arceus was god, I made a gigantic conspiracy theory of the cristian church for fun.
Arceus was god, and since Mew was supposed to be the original pokemon then he was a jesus.
Mewtwo was the antichrist and Giratina was satan.
My religion teacher got somewhat upset when I claimed thats what actually happened and the christians just changed what they looked like and killed all of the pokemon. It turned into a giant class joke just to mess with the teacher.
Needless to say I was sent down to the office for "conspiring against the religion of the school" or something like that.
But.. It's not a joke..
This is the real deal, Pokemon isn't just a kid's game!
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the fact is, arceus is just better than mew because it can't stand up to other ubers, and arceus is just awesome as any type ( mine is a ghost, but he could be a good steel or something)
Also arceus is a very common uber, where as mew isnt.
ALSO, serebii.net said arecus is 'the jack of all trades, king of them too' whereas with mew, it said ' it just can't stand up to the ubers high standards'
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Mew is the Very best baton passer out there, however, which is why it is considered uber.
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I like Umbreon for a baton Passer. Pass on max calm minds to Porygon-Z with Ice Beam, Tri Attack, Dark Pulse, and HP fighting that is holding choice scarf..
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Yeah, but mew is faster and can learn tons of better stat enhancing moves than umbreon, like Amnesia, Nasty Plot, Bulk Up, and Rock Polish. Therefore, Mew is a much better Baton Passer. Mew also has access to Transform.
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Arceus because he has the highest stats of any Pokemon
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Arceus is better because he have all atributes and what atak he will take is not very evective
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Mew can learn all the attacks in the game, and it's stats are only slightly less than mewtwo, my favorite legendary - except for mew's speed, which is way higher than any other pokemon I've had. And since mew was in the first pokemon movie, and the only I ever saw, when I was six, that makes it automatically awesome. Arceus looks like a horse that someone skinned and ran over with a pickup truck.
And since the christian god killed every living being on the planet with a flood, I have it out for that one. Unless Arceus hacks its way into the first pokemon movie, un-uglies itself, and happens to actually be Buddha or something, I'm going with mew.
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As soon as pokemon said Arceus was god, I made a gigantic conspiracy theory of the cristian church for fun.
Arceus was god, and since Mew was supposed to be the original pokemon then he was a jesus.
Mewtwo was the antichrist and Giratina was satan.
My religion teacher got somewhat upset when I claimed thats what actually happened and the christians just changed what they looked like and killed all of the pokemon. It turned into a giant class joke just to mess with the teacher.
Needless to say I was sent down to the office for "conspiring against the religion of the school" or something like that.
Interesting, I never thought of Pokemon like that... But, you have a strong point.
By that, I stick with Mewtwo :P
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Well, this is kind of a hard decision I like both of them. Mew has isn't good points about the fact that it is fast, it can learn any move and it can be a very useful pokemon if it is raised right. But then we have Arceus, it is also good with speed and its' attacks , both mew and arceus have their weaknesses. Even though areceus is supposed to be a god. If you look at the pokemon stats it is clear which is the better pokemon out of the two.
http://www.pokemon.com/us/pokedex/
So, I guess Arceus is the stronger pokemon
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If you look at the pokemon stats it is clear which is the better pokemon out of the two.
http://www.pokemon.com/us/pokedex/
So, I guess Arceus is the stronger pokemon
Stats aren't everything. Just 'cause a pokemon that you has to hack the game to get has the highest stats doesn't mean he's the best. With Sunny Day, Solar Beam, Metal Sound, and some 'Harsh' attack reduction stat, Mew could own Arceus. Being able to learn every move has its advantages.
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Other...
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Mew is the ancestor of all pokemon. Arceus is a pokemon. Therefore, Arceus cannot be the "god". Arceus has bad moves. Mew, which can learn ANYHTHING at all, will own Arceus any day.
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If you look at the pokemon stats it is clear which is the better pokemon out of the two.
http://www.pokemon.com/us/pokedex/
So, I guess Arceus is the stronger pokemon
Stats aren't everything. Just 'cause a pokemon that you has to hack the game to get has the highest stats doesn't mean he's the best. With Sunny Day, Solar Beam, Metal Sound, and some 'Harsh' attack reduction stat, Mew could own Arceus. Being able to learn every move has its advantages.
Yes, I understand what you are saying but I didn't choose because of the stats really I also looked at each Pokemon's weaknesses yes it is true that mew can learn every move in the game and could beat arceus maybe. If you look at mew it has a few weaknesses and if you look at arceus it only has like one or two. Not to say that mew couldn't beat arceus in the game if it was trained specifically to beat an arceus. Just that even if the stats where normal mew would still have a harder time beating arceus because of it's many weaknesses. But I guess you are right on that part of what you say mew could beat arceus if it was fair and not an arceus that has a cheat on it to max out all of it's stats.
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Yes, I understand what you are saying but I didn't choose because of the stats really I also looked at each Pokemon's weaknesses yes it is true that mew can learn every move in the game and could beat arceus maybe. If you look at mew it has a few weaknesses and if you look at arceus it only has like one or two. Not to say that mew couldn't beat arceus in the game if it was trained specifically to beat an arceus. Just that even if the stats where normal mew would still have a harder time beating arceus because of it's many weaknesses. But I guess you are right on that part of what you say mew could beat arceus if it was fair and not an arceus that has a cheat on it to max out all of it's stats.
Mew is versatile, meaning it's move pool is very fluid. It could be specifically tailored to beat Arceus, then brought to a move realearner to go back to it's orignoal set. 'Sides, the combo I mentioned could pwn just about any pokemon. And... Mew is a psycic type. Psychic types are only weak against three types. And besides, Arceus' come in every type, so in a way, Arceus is weak against every type.
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Yes, I understand what you are saying but I didn't choose because of the stats really I also looked at each Pokemon's weaknesses yes it is true that mew can learn every move in the game and could beat arceus maybe. If you look at mew it has a few weaknesses and if you look at arceus it only has like one or two. Not to say that mew couldn't beat arceus in the game if it was trained specifically to beat an arceus. Just that even if the stats where normal mew would still have a harder time beating arceus because of it's many weaknesses. But I guess you are right on that part of what you say mew could beat arceus if it was fair and not an arceus that has a cheat on it to max out all of it's stats.
Mew is versatile, meaning it's move pool is very fluid. It could be specifically tailored to beat Arceus, then brought to a move realearner to go back to it's orignoal set. 'Sides, the combo I mentioned could pwn just about any pokemon. And... Mew is a psycic type. Psychic types are only weak against three types. And besides, Arceus' come in every type, so in a way, Arceus is weak against every type.
Okay now I am a little confused I get that mew does have good attack because of the fact that it can learn every move but that does not mean that it can always beat arceus. It depends on what type arceus it is so no arceus is not weak against every type. Every one type of arceus has weaknesses just like an other type of pokemon would have a weakness like mew it's a psychic type as you said so it is weak against dark moves I think it is. I don't really remember if that is correct or not but I know that mew will always be weak to that type attack because of the fact that it is a psychic type pokemon.
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Okay now I am a little confused I get that mew does have good attack because of the fact that it can learn every move but that does not mean that it can always beat arceus. It depends on what type arceus it is so no arceus is not weak against every type. Every one type of arceus has weaknesses just like an other type of pokemon would have a weakness like mew it's a psychic type as you said so it is weak against dark moves I think it is. I don't really remember if that is correct or not but I know that mew will always be weak to that type attack because of the fact that it is a psychic type pokemon.
Well, it all comes down to this:
Mew can beat arceus unless arceus is one of the three types that are strong against psychic. Three times out of seventeen [Types] Arceus can beat Mew. That means that Mew is better roughly 82.35% of the time.
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Mew could still beat arceus if it knows powerful supereffective moves against those types, such as Fire Blast, Focus Blast, And Sucker Punch/Shadow Ball/Dark Pulse.
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Though Arceus has better stats and is supposedly a "god", I personally think Mew will own lol.
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Okay now I am a little confused I get that mew does have good attack because of the fact that it can learn every move but that does not mean that it can always beat arceus. It depends on what type arceus it is so no arceus is not weak against every type. Every one type of arceus has weaknesses just like an other type of pokemon would have a weakness like mew it's a psychic type as you said so it is weak against dark moves I think it is. I don't really remember if that is correct or not but I know that mew will always be weak to that type attack because of the fact that it is a psychic type pokemon.
Well, it all comes down to this:
Mew can beat arceus unless arceus is one of the three types that are strong against psychic. Three times out of seventeen [Types] Arceus can beat Mew. That means that Mew is better roughly 82.35% of the time.
Yeah, I guess mew would win most of the time. :) <.< I still wonder about arceus though, why was it made to where each one has it's own type?
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Yeah, I guess mew would win most of the time. :) <.< I still wonder about arceus though, why was it made to where each one has it's own type?
Probably because it was supposed to be god. They didn't want a god pokemon taking favorites in types, but they can't just slap all seventeen onto it. So they make it have the option to have each type. (Read article: Is god white?)
And because even as it is, mew is more versitile. Being limited to one type would have made mew be closer to the 'omnipotence' characteristic.
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idk mew would probably win some of the battles and arceus would win some of the battles too
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duh people arceus can learn any move and has its own signiture move (judgement)
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duh people arceus can learn any move and has its own signiture move (judgement)
Are you sure you aren't thinking of Ashera from Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn? Her weapon was called Judgement.
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duh people arceus can learn any move and has its own signiture move (judgement)
Are you sure you aren't thinking of Ashera from Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn? Her weapon was called Judgement.
Nope he also has that move.
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Arceus Cannot learn every move, though it can learn quite a few tm's and it can get stab for every one. Even so, Mew still beats Arceus.
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Arceus is just...better than mew.
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Mew is the ancestor of ALL Pokemon, so that means...Mew Created Arceus. :O
The only reason Mew has lower base stats, is because Mew is much Smaller. Mew is Extremely Cute, Can learn any Move, and Proportionally, is more powerful.
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Well actually, yes, arceus can learn every move, just give him the plate of whatever type of move your trying to teach it. But think about it, when they said mew was the ancestor of all pokemon, wasnt that movie, quote, thing made before the hoenn and sinnoh regions. Then the movie about arceus came out and said a ton of stuff about him. But wait, technically, didnt mew create pokemon, and arceus create like the land or something? But how does that determine which one is better? Idk, i like them both, theyre both strong, etc.
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Mew ftw hes the best :)
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Mew can learn every move but it still sucks I mean...PINK?! REALLY? Joking 8) but Arcues has way more stats and can turn into any type it wants. (You can use the plates found in pkmn platnuim diamond and pearl)
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The best are : Lugia, Dialga, Palkia, and Uxie. But i think the best is Arceus :)
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To set something straight I was reading earlier:
To summarise, Arceus is the equivalent to the Pokemon 'God'. He created time and space (Dialga and Palkia). He created the Lake Guardians (Azelf, Uxie, Mespirit.) and he created Giratina. After that, it's speculated but not concrete fact, that Arceus created Earth, Water, and Sky. (Kyogre, Groudon, and Rayquaza.) Along with most of the other legendaries, it's also speculated he created Mew.
The difference being that Mew is the genetic parent of all non-legendary Pokemon. Legendary Pokemon can't breed because their genetic structures are extremely unique. (In-game at least.) So, there is a very good possibility that Arceus is the creator of worlds and Legendary Pokemon while Mew is the creator of all regular Pokemon.
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Mew is much better :)
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Mew is the cutest !!!
The shiny mew is total Pwnage :) small but dangerous :)
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isn't arceus that pokemon where u choose his types...thats awesome uhmmm but mew can learn every move... i know nothing about arcius or whatever but mew has a huge problem ...his stats they are like right above average which means regular pokemon will beat him if he has the wrong moves so i'll give it to arceus
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Actually, Mew's stats are far above average, levelling off JUST below Mewtwo, in all areas except speed and special defense, in which Mew is better.
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The best are : Lugia, Dialga, Palkia, and Uxie. But i think the best is Arceus :)
mewtwo is still the best no one is any comp because his moveset can be flawless if u can figure it out he can be super effective to almost every type excluding the ones he needs no protection from and he is taking everyone out in one hit....legends and gluttons for punishment may need two hits to down them but if u set him up right even with his worst stats hes taking out two pokemon and a half at least
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i like them both ;D
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Charizard. he held his own against technically 30,000 unknowns at once. though they took the form of entei. plus arcanine, arcanine is awesome and was originally depicted as a legendary pokemon. but in mew vs. arceus. mew for the win. mew learns self destruct. then fights arceus and kills himself to save teh world. or he learns reflect or mirror coat yo make arceus commit a self pwn. then theres always destiny bond or siren song. oh plus mew can learn judgement too.
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Charizard. he held his own against technically 30,000 unknowns at once. though they took the form of entei. plus arcanine, arcanine is awesome and was originally depicted as a legendary pokemon. but in mew vs. arceus. mew for the win. mew learns self destruct. then fights arceus and kills himself to save teh world. or he learns reflect or mirror coat yo make arceus commit a self pwn. then theres always destiny bond or siren song. oh plus mew can learn judgement too.
Like Celebi In Pokemon 4ever!
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mew because it has transform. because of that, mew can also become the "jack of all trades, the king of them too".
but...
it also kind of looks like a tiger's newborn cub to me ;)
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jack of all trades, the king of them too
...F*CK YES!
*votes for mew again somehow*
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Mudkips. They own both 8D
... But seriously? I'm choosing Arceus even tho Mew is adorable. He is just epic... They should make a female version of Arceus (I know that legendaries do not have genders but you know what I'm on about) and make it even more epic. She could be even stronger than Arceus! Girls deserve to be goddesses! *crazy feminist-mode on*...but yeah, I pick Arceus.
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yet gods and godesses keep the world in balance together
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No they don't.
Christian God, Egyptian gods, Greek gods, they all have one thing in common. They screwed the world over in a thousand more ways than they helped it.
Thus, Mew is better.
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Exactly 8)
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yet gods and godesses keep the world in balance together
No they don't.
Christian God, Egyptian gods, Greek gods, they all have one thing in common. They screwed the world over in a thousand more ways than they helped it.
Thus, Mew is better.
Exactly 8)
...What?
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Out of the two give me Arceus any day, but my personal favorite is Darkrai, because of his speed stat. I like fast Pokemon!
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what about ninjask?
Also...yet gods and godesses keep the world in balance together
No they don't.
Christian God, Egyptian gods, Greek gods, they all have one thing in common. They screwed the world over in a thousand more ways than they helped it.
Thus, Mew is better.
Exactly 8)
...What?
mew can use transform to go to the beginning of time and correct the wrongs that have been created. 8)
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Because he has a double weakness to rock, and I don't really like Pokemon that carry double weaknesses.
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I HONESTLY THINK HO-Ho(sry bout the caps) would best both of them but between the two i gotta say mew i never see him lose to one pokemon but arceus looses a lot if u watch ppl batle with him
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I HONESTLY THINK HO-Ho(sry bout the caps) would best both of them but between the two i gotta say mew i never see him lose to one pokemon but arceus looses a lot if u watch ppl batle with him
Deadae, quit necro-posting!
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Agreed. I've already asked you to stop this deadae, next time I won't be as forgiving.