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Pokémon Discussion => General Chat => Topic started by: Tristan on January 22, 2012, 11:49:58 PM
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So I was thinking about old Pokemon episodes the other day and I remembered the giant Dragonite in "Mystery of the Lighthouse". A lot of people just brushed this off as the anime not being sure whether or not Dragonite was legendary at the time, sort of like Lucario, so they made him gigantic and unknown but then later introduced him as normal sized and quite known. But here's the thing, Dragonite is not the only giant Pokemon. Now I knew this, but I didn't realize just how many giant or "above average" Pokemon have appeared in the anime. I myself remembered the giant Tentacruel at Hatoba Port, Gary's giant Krabby and Bruno's giant Onix, but then I looked it up and there's apparently a ton of these things.
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Giant_Pok%C3%A9mon There's about 22 Pokemon listed that are classified as "giant" because they're way above average. It also mentions that in "Hey You, Pikachu!" you could catch giant fish Pokemon and then... well, then there's this from one of the mangas:
(http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/thumb/e/ec/Black_Fog.png/250px-Black_Fog.png)
If that's not the scariest thing ever ... I mean come on...
What do you think? I mean could you imagine the destruction that giant Dragonite could cause? The thing collapsed a cliff with the swipe of it's damn tail...
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I remember a episode were there was a gigantic Alakazam and Gengar. I don't really remember much but I think they had a feud or something. I remember seeing a bunch of scientist types in that episode.
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That Alakazam and Gengar episode.. there were something like ancient pokemon artefacts.. made me think there was an ancient secret Pokemon was keeping >.>
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I like when they talk about ancient Pokemon times. That giant Haunter was called "Black Fog" in the manga and was apparently so old that it lived in ancient times when man treated Pokemon like gods, and it was arrogant because of this. It terrorized Saffron City and Sabrina until Ash battled it, weakened it enough to be caught, but then it committed suicide with self destruct. Good stuff.
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In the manga, he is called red. That is all.
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In the manga, he is called red. That is all.
Actually in "The Electric Tale of Pikachu" Manga, his name is Satoshi/Ash Ketchum, just like in the anime. Most of the characters retain their names from the anime, but are a lot more bad ass than their anime counterparts.
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There are really HUGE pokemon out there, and I guess you already know that. ;D
Though most of them are Legendary (Groudon, Kyogre, Rayquaza, Arceus...), there are a few non-legends (Wailord...) and a few, like Gengar that can actually change their size in some situations... There are some others too, but I'm not sure which ones. Jigglypuff = Big when Balloon form
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What do you think? I mean could you imagine the destruction that giant Dragonite could cause? The thing collapsed a cliff with the swipe of it's damn tail...
As stated by Bill from translations that Dragonite just wanted a friend and was quite lonely. But got scared away by Team Rocket when they started attacking it.
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Giant Pokemon would be cool to add to the game for boss battles, with Pokemon of course.
I haven't really read much of the manga. I did watch like the first six episodes when it came out.
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Yea i remember one episode after shipwreck in Kanto. There was giant fully evolved starters, Pikachu and other gigantic Pokemon.
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They never explained much about the ancient Pokemon thing that happened with Giant Alakazam, Gengar, and the Jigglypuff. Only that there was a fued and that they would destroy the world if Giant Jigglypuff wasn't released in time. Could that be related to the treating Pokemon like gods thing?
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Well to dodo100, those Pokemon were electronic. They were part of a theme park owned by Giovanni.
On the topic of ancient Pokemon, yeah, they never really touched on it much. The history of the Pokemon world interests me because they tend to change/add to it so much that it kind of conflicts with itself. Personally, I think there's just way too many legendary Pokemon and to say that Professor Oak actually stated that only 150 Pokemon existed at one point is laughable considering how many there actually are. But I digress.
To Reafer, yes, it definitely could be. For one, the Haunter in that manga edition was so huge because it had lived for thousands of years, and I've read before that Magikarp were once larger and more powerful but something caused them to be pretty much useless at some point. So yes, Pokemon were definitely stronger and probably larger in ancient times.
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That reminds me of nurse Joy's gaint magikarp friend from the orange island series. It was huge, but when it evolved it became a normal sized Gyarados,
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That reminds me of nurse Joy's gaint magikarp friend from the orange island series. It was huge, but when it evolved it became a normal sized Gyarados,
What if it was still huge but thats just the normal size for a Gyarados? ;)
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Yea i remember one episode after shipwreck in Kanto. There was giant fully evolved starters, Pikachu and other gigantic Pokemon.
Those were robots, as was explained in the same episode
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Don't forget the caterpie that turned into a giant after taking some medicine that was supposed to powerup pokemon, not supersize them.
And the gulpin that accidently grew with Ash' treecko along
And here are more of 'dem from the anime and trivia: http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Giant_Pok%C3%A9mon
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The whole Pokemon dying conflicts with itself since we have all these legendary's that are mentioned in their history and that haunter that lived for a thousand years. They really need to explain the Pokemon's life span a bit more. There was also that episode where a gastly and haunter were trapped in Pokeballs that belong to some pirate dude.
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I agree, we really don't know the average lifespan of a Pokemon. I guess this is sort of because the anime never really confronts the subject of Pokemon dying, despite that numerous times they've made references towards death. Like in the first episode where Misty asks if Pikachu is still breathing, implying that it could in fact be dead. For the legendaries, I'd say the fact that they *are* legendary could be reason that they live so long, but what exactly makes them legendary anyway? In the games they're pretty average Pokemon and I guess the only thing legendary about them is the fact that there's only one of each in existence...but wait! That also conflicts with itself, because there was an episode of Pokemon Chronicles where a trainer finds a baby Lugia and protects it from Team Rocket. This, to me, meant that either the Pokemon Company screwed up in continuity, or the baby Lugia was that of the original Lugia, but then of course who did it breed with? Also, how can a Haunter die anyway? It's already a ghost Pokemon :P
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There was also an episode where someone has a Zapdos and she said she raised it since birth I think. Doesn't one of the Battle Frontier Brains have Articuno as a friend? I think what makes them legendary is the fact that they lived a long time and that's it. Now if Pokemon were to make arch story for each Pokemon that is legendary then they would explain what great deeds those legendary's did in order to become so revered and not just called legendary cause they live for so long. I think Pokemon either didn't believe they would have more seasons and just settled for 150 or the game was such a huge success that they decided to add legendary's just so players had something to look for.
Or possibly for a story, like in our world with so many religions they decided that their Legendary Pokemon was the most powerful and named them legendary, but as soon as they made contact with other islands they just bunched them all up.
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Well wartortle live for 10000 years and he's not a legendary now is he...
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How do pokemon breath inside a pokeball
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Irony:
The HAUNTER that lived for a thousand years...
And about the Legendaries, at least the Bird Trio are rebirthed every once in a while... All 3 are like Phoenixes, so they get the knowledge of their predecessor. The exception is Mew, which there is only 1 of. The old Mew dies once it's egg is laid.
They "die" a lot more often than the Ancient Pokémon like Groudon, Kyogre and Rayquaza.
Also, the lore tells that Arceus were the shaper of the universe. That means it must be VERY old! Same goes for Dialga, Palkia and Giratina, which were the first ones created by Arceus...
Or something like that. At least it's what I've read... somewhere :|
How they breath in Pokéballs?... No idea
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Still doesn't really explain some of the other happenings. Particularly in "Pokemon Chronicles" which featured a lot of game characters turned into anime characters like Ethan, Kris, and Eusine from S/G/C. At one point Raikou is badly hurt and they take it to a Pokemon center like it's nothing...and another episode Silver battles Moltres and almost catches it, but decides not to out of pride. That show in particular kind of made the legendaries seem well ... less legendary.
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And about the Legendaries, at least the Bird Trio are rebirthed every once in a while... All 3 are like Phoenixes, so they get the knowledge of their predecessor. The exception is Mew, which there is only 1 of. The old Mew dies once it's egg is laid.
They "die" a lot more often than the Ancient Pokémon like Groudon, Kyogre and Rayquaza.
Also, the lore tells that Arceus were the shaper of the universe. That means it must be VERY old! Same goes for Dialga, Palkia and Giratina, which were the first ones created by Arceus...
If mew contains all the Pokemon's DNA shouldn't it be like the god of all Pokemon? I mean if it has every Pokemon's DNA then that means it also has Arceus's, right? Which is kinda weird since Acreus uses plates, right? So before the Universe was shaped he just floated in his psychic ball in nothingness... or something like that? That would explain why he is always curious and floats around the world like it's never seen it before.
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And about the Legendaries, at least the Bird Trio are rebirthed every once in a while... All 3 are like Phoenixes, so they get the knowledge of their predecessor. The exception is Mew, which there is only 1 of. The old Mew dies once it's egg is laid.
They "die" a lot more often than the Ancient Pokémon like Groudon, Kyogre and Rayquaza.
Also, the lore tells that Arceus were the shaper of the universe. That means it must be VERY old! Same goes for Dialga, Palkia and Giratina, which were the first ones created by Arceus...
If mew contains all the Pokemon's DNA shouldn't it be like the god of all Pokemon? I mean if it has every Pokemon's DNA then that means it also has Arceus's, right? Which is kinda weird since Acreus uses plates, right? So before the Universe was shaped he just floated in his psychic ball in nothingness... or something like that? That would explain why he is always curious and floats around the world like it's never seen it before.
Well, we don't really know where Arceus came from, but it created Palkia, Dialga, and Giratina first, then the other legends like Mew and all the trios. Mew may be the "god of all Pokemon" in the sense that it's like a ditto :P, but Arceus is still god of everything. The fact that Mew is very baby-like and innocent was always curious to me. I don't really think Mew is intelligent, maybe more so just pure and rare in the sense that it holds the DNA of every Pokemon. I mean really, what is Mew's purpose? All the other legendaries seem to have some purpose like being a Guardian of something or a protector/watcher, etc., but Mew just wanders around aimlessly, enjoying the little things life has to offer.
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The lore goes there was a void of nothingness, and in it a single egg came to being, and that egg hatched and it was Arceus. He then created the pokemon world and all the other legendary pokemon and gave them control over certain aspects of the universe. Mew is the "father" of all pokemon in a sense that all non-legendaries descended from it. How? I have no clue, ask Nintendo.
All of this is found here: http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon_world
Amazing what a little research can do right?
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Where the hell did Prof. Oak study? He should get a refund since he missed all the 500+ Pokemon. He said there was only 150 I wonder if how he passed he final exams with that lame excuse.
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Where the hell did Prof. Oak study? He should get a refund since he missed all the 500+ Pokemon. He said there was only 150 I wonder if how he passed he final exams with that lame excuse.
Well Nintendo are kind of idiots for that :P Sometimes I swear the anime makes it seem like just as Ash is arriving in a new region, the Pokemon there are just then being discovered for the first time. Which would make no sense for obvious reasons.
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Everyone in Kanto must be high as hell.