Pokemon Universe MMORPG
Pokémon Universe => Ideas & Suggestions => Topic started by: Tymid on February 13, 2010, 06:36:15 AM
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This is an idea I've had since I was little, since the first pokemon games came out. It's pretty basic, but probably not what this game is looking for in terms of gameplay. Still, it could branch out into other ideas, and possibly be incorporated.
We all know that in the daycare, compatible pokemon produce eggs. For me, waiting for the egg to hatch is very thrilling; I think it's because you don't know what moves they'll have, or even if it'll be a shiny. What if, on random occurance, like wild pokemon encounters, you find a Pokenest, and there is a mystery egg inside. Now, this would have to be on a very random occurance sequence, and the egg, like any freshly caught pokemon, would be sent to the PC. A maximum of 5 eggs could be in the PC at any given time, to keep from egg harvesting. The chance for a rare pokemon is, just that, rare, but the fact that it could be any pokemon would be a great way to keep people walking through the grass, training their pokemon; a suspense tactic.
This idea is rough, I know. But I think it would be a great way to keep players intrigued, and also a new and exciting addition to already great pokemon game.
Critiques are welcome. I'm not afraid of bad ones, so please, post anything you like.
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That sounds like a good idea because players can get cool Pokemon, but when theirs MMO's there is also scammers.
You can tell if there's a chance these eggs are really rare everyone's going to scam everyone else for the eggs and many other people with make multiple accounts to get many eggs then transfer it to their other accounts making a circle of a few people with 100's of eggs. That's just something you have to take into account, especially for a new MMO still in the making.
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then transfer it to their other accounts making a circle of a few people with 100's of eggs.
Although he said that you could only have 5 at a time in your pc, so there's no way that 1 account will have 100 eggs on it.
Anyways I really liked this idea! This'll keep more people in the grass, and make training against wild pokemon somewhat more exciting just because of this small chance.
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Although he said that you could only have 5 at a time in your pc, so there's no way that 1 account will have 100 eggs on it.
You can still gather multiple accounts and wait for all five eggs to hatch, then transfer the unhatched eggs to the main.
But making eggs/nests Non-Tradeable would solve every scam problem anyone may have.
But as stated before, great idea. This reminds me of an idea from a quite a few other MMOs (some done better than others)
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Thank you for all of the feedback! A solution to the scamming problem would be, as ghostman said, to make the eggs/hatched pokemon untradeable. HOWEVER, they can be bred. This would mean that the trainer would have to have a Ditto or another of that rare pokemon to succeed.
Also, to add on to this idea, I figured the drop rate for rare pokemon would be pretty slim. However, to keep intrigue alive, we calculate the value of shinies into this equation. Meaning, pokemon that hatch from the egg that aren't considered rare (i.e.: caterpie, rattata, etc.) have a HIGHER chance of being shiny than say a rare pokemon that hatched from the egg. There's still the chance you could get a normal caterpie from the nest, but the chances of you catching a shiny caterpie in the wild vs. finding one in the nest is leaning highly toward the nest.
The reason this is so intriguing to me is the whole mystery factor. You can get any pokemon, there's still hope that if it's not a rare one, it can be a shiny commoner. There's still a lot of kinks that need to be worked out, but I appreciate all the feedback!
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But I think it would be a great way to keep players intrigued, and also a new and exciting addition to already great pokemon game.
If something like this were to be implemented, I think that a random empty egg may also keep players intrigued and excited. If a player knows 100% that they are going to get something worth something, the players may end up getting spoiled and expect something "cool" every time.
The random empty egg would be equally rare and it would keep that intrigue.
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But I think it would be a great way to keep players intrigued, and also a new and exciting addition to already great pokemon game.
The random empty egg would be equally rare and it would keep that intrigue.
I agree :D
Even if it did make me mad, I wouldn't get my hopes up, so when I did get something nice, then it'd make me even happier than just knowing that I am gonna get something nice.
If you get what I mean.
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That's a wonderful idea! I didn't even think of that. xD
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hmm, this is a good idea and I like it but it's mean if you think about it for you are taking a pokemon egg from the wild and keeping it for yourself
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hmm, this is a good idea and I like it but it's mean if you think about it for you are taking a pokemon egg from the wild and keeping it for yourself
I don't have morals about stealing when playing a game. ;P
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I really like the idea, but I think the fact that it could be any pokemon is a bit too, well yu know, crap! I think a list should be made personally of pokemon you could get like maybe some starters?
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Well, how about this, DayStar. Certain Pokemon have certain breeding seasons, weeks, times, hours, etc., depending on the rarity, and your choice of pokemon is limited to those in that time slot. That would be a solution, but I personally think that the any pokemon thing just adds to the suspense. :)
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Well, This is a really awesome idea, and like all great ideas, it has to be worked and changed and perfected until just right for implementation, I really think this idea would do wonders with a bit of work, after all, it's the little things that always kept me into the series ;D
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Well, how about this, DayStar. Certain Pokemon have certain breeding seasons, weeks, times, hours, etc., depending on the rarity, and your choice of pokemon is limited to those in that time slot. That would be a solution, but I personally think that the any pokemon thing just adds to the suspense. :)
This might be something for an event which takes place once a month or so. Where players go to a certain field/part/whatever to search for new eggs?
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Well, how about this, DayStar. Certain Pokemon have certain breeding seasons, weeks, times, hours, etc., depending on the rarity, and your choice of pokemon is limited to those in that time slot. That would be a solution, but I personally think that the any pokemon thing just adds to the suspense. :)
This might be something for an event which takes place once a month or so. Where players go to a certain field/part/whatever to search for new eggs?
You mean like an easter egg hunt?
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Yeah something like that but only it's held once a month.
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But I think it would be a great way to keep players intrigued, and also a new and exciting addition to already great pokemon game.
If something like this were to be implemented, I think that a random empty egg may also keep players intrigued and excited. If a player knows 100% that they are going to get something worth something, the players may end up getting spoiled and expect something "cool" every time.
The random empty egg would be equally rare and it would keep that intrigue.
Or you get one which turns into a 'bad egg' (they never hatch), which you get in some of the GBA games (Emerald and FRLG, if I'm not mistaken) when you use cheats that turn out bad... :D
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This idea is absolutley wonderfull! The fact that there can allways be an empty egg makes you very happy for anything you get, and egg hunt makes running around grass much more exciting, and on ester there should be grand egg hunt, in wich there is a high rate of getting reare and shiny pokemon (smaller reare egg hunt would come every month or every two months, while there would allways be a little chance to get an egg). :D
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I really really like this idea, and i think with a bit of work and tought put into it it can be perfected and i feel it should definitly be implemented :) Great post.
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Well, I dunno about you guys, but for me I only have easter once a year, so even 12 times a year sounds awesome :P
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i came to this subject to see if i could add anything, but after i read it, i thought,
'Dang! Shoot! they already thought of anything!!!'
so basically, even though, Tymid, this was a childhood idea, its only gonna get better. much better ;D
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Thanks for all the responses, guys! I'm really happy at all the feedback I've gotten...and all the wonderful ideas put in. ^_^
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I really like the egg Idea, Tymid.
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I have to say. I deeply approve.
However I seemed to miss something. Would it be like finding an item that flashes and you click on it and you get an egg or would it be like random battle which has a random chance to happen every time you step in high grass?
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Yes i like this idea as well. Will add another fun thing to the game and could be very fun and interesting. Also good addition for having a limit!
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i agree with mr_dark if you just made it were you could wander around and ramdomly find them some people would keep doing this and then the other events/contest would slowly get smaller and smaller.
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This doesn't have to do much with thread were on, but I don't want to make a new thread because I'm still a noob.
I think Pokemon bred with Ditto should have a slightly less chance (Not to make people too mad) of it being successful/shiny. Pokemon bred with their same type of species should have a higher chance of succeeding/ being shiny.
Any thoughts? Sorry for stealing your thread.
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Maybe go along with what people have said above me, since there would be events for eggs, have the few eggs you find in the wild have a very low chance of actually hatching (in other words be empty shells, and of course I am talking about when the event is not in effect) so you can have a small chance to find an egg, and a very small chance for it to actually hatch for you.
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Awesome idea, I love it. Some really good suggestions being made too-- it's always great to see a good idea grow like this :)
I think that personally the most effective and exciting way to look at implementing this would be:
- Have it as a constant chance (instead of a once-per-month event), but make the probability of actually encountering an egg at all very slim (say... 0.05% maybe?). I'm not a mathematician so I can't really suggest a solid percentage chance based on probability calculations or anything like that, but obviously if there is ALWAYS the chance of encountering an egg it will need to be a very small chance. But the simple fact that there is ALWAYS that chance can make the feel of the entire game much more exciting.
- Having said that, it would definitely be awesome to have some added features to this around Easter time. Possibly something like: Eggs are much easier to find during the Easter event?
- I do like the idea of each egg having a chance that it will be empty (i.e: it will 'hatch' with nothing inside of it). However, if that chance is too great (as possibly suggested by darion101 above), the eggs could potentially just become a nuisance to players. If there's more than a 50% chance that your egg will be empty, would you waste time hatching it? Love to hear everyone else's thoughts on this, but I would think that about a 10% chance of an egg being empty is a pretty reasonable number.
- If the probabilities of finding an egg, and that egg actually containing a pokemon are figured out to a reasonable level (i.e: Only 1 in every 10,000 encounters worldwide involves an egg) then it will remain a very rare treat. But obviously in online games such as this, rare things are highly sought after, and players will inevitably try to cheat or abuse the system to get them. I'm not sure if completely preventing players from trading these egg pokemon would be a good solution, because as long as the gameworld isn't flooded with them they will be valuable-- But their value would be completely taken away (from a trading/selling point of view) if you are unable to trade/sell the pokemon. If only the hatched pokemon themselves can be traded/sold, and the eggs are unable to be traded/sold, that would help the situation I think.
Sure, there will still be people who spend hours upon hours trying to find eggs, and then hatching eggs simply to sell them, but if you think about it they won't be gaining an unfair advantage (as long as the probability of finding these eggs is low enough but still reasonable) and also I'm sure if the pokemon universe was real there would be people who devoted their time to doing exactly that (something like an Egg Dealer).
Any thoughts? :)
Kiel
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That sounds okay for me. The percentages of encounterance with an egg might be raised to 1% though, 0.01% seems way too low for me. The 5% probability of having a lucky egg on Chanseys already was annoying ::)
I think that if it is implemented, then the egg should be from level 1, like in DPPt, HGSS.
This doesn't have to do much with thread were on, but I don't want to make a new thread because I'm still a noob.
I think Pokemon bred with Ditto should have a slightly less chance (Not to make people too mad) of it being successful/shiny. Pokemon bred with their same type of species should have a higher chance of succeeding/ being shiny.
Any thoughts? Sorry for stealing your thread.
I think that lowering the probability of passing on good IVs could be reduced instead. IMO, the chance for a shiny pokemon is already very low. I only got one shiny through eggs, a shiny Meditite...
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Well, since we're on the subject of breeding. Will we be able to breed any pokemon? Because one time it Ruby, I tried to breed my Sceptile or something. (I forget what it was.) And I put a ditto in there and it said that they didn't get along. And I was like "RAWR!!!!!" >:(
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but ditto is the ladies man ;)
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but ditto is the ladies man ;)
Unless the pokemon in the daycare is another boy, then Ditto is the man's ^@_&%.
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The thing about they do not get along only means that they'll take more time to get an egg. That may be due to their natures.
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The thing about they do not get along only means that they'll take more time to get an egg. That may be due to their natures.
That really has something to do with it? Seriously? I never knew that... I thought their Natures was only for Contests and those Pofin things.
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I personally never got the daycare man tell me that a pokemon was not getting along with my Ditto... my Ditto might have been a docile partner, lol :D
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Acually narures are pretty important (they raise and lower one stat) read here:
http://pokemondb.net/nature (http://pokemondb.net/nature)
But I think breeding has less to do with natures, but more with types, I allways check on my poketch if they are comatible (app 23 I think).
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Yes, that's with Platinum only.
With breeding, what I'm sure is about the egg group match up, but since Ditto matches with any group (except those that cannot have eggs), I can only think about the nature of the pokemon.
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Oh, sorry, haven't played Diamond in a while... :P :-[
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Well, back to the original subject...
I thought this idea was great! If PU could include this and many other ideas, I think it could possibly be one of the best Pokemon games!
Heres my idea:
What if you had different types of nests, I.e. burrows, bird's nests, hollows, tunnels, etc.
Certain pokemon are in the different types, like you might find a Tailow in a bird nest and a diglet in a burrow. This way it wouldn't be completely random, but still keeps you on your toes.
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Wouldn't it make sense not only to have eggs in the grass but on trees too? Say you have a chance of getting a nest by using cut or maybe headbutt on a tree like in gold, silver, and crystal? That would be a good spot for flying and bug type eggs
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What if the mother was there. you could battle it and if you win you can get the egg?
I dont really like the idea myself but its an idea!
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But then, as was brought up before, you would be stealing the egg. Maybe it could say, "You found an egg in a Pokemon's nest, will you take it?"
If you say yes, you can either take the egg no problem (because it is abandoned), or fight the mother, and not get the egg. You won't be able to run from the mother, and it would be hard to catch.
If you say no, then nothing happens
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Good point, To make it not be really be like stealing then what if the egg fell down from the sky? Like the mother drops it.
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Uh... the egg would break? Unless the mother targets and sends the unwanted egg on grass which will cushion the fall. :-\
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Uh... the egg would break? Unless the mother targets and sends the unwanted egg on grass which will cushion the fall. :-\
But if the mother didn't care about the egg, which she does because she's dropping it, she wouldn't bother to aim it.
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But if the mother didn't care about the egg, which she does because she's dropping it, she wouldn't bother to aim it.
Exactly my point. So, I don't think that we should let the eggs "fall down from the sky".
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This is a great idea! I especially the different types of nests. Like a tunnel could be found using rock smash,like, you've uncovered a tunnel under the rock! Will you take the eggs? And if you say yes, there's a 50% (maybe more. maybe less, you decide) of the mother/father being there. "Oh no! Papa Ryhorn is angry!" or "(insert trainer's name here) took the eggs!"
Or you could just stumble upon a nest. "(insert trainer's name here) tripped over a nest!" Although I dont quite like the idea myself, but......
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Great idea, all in one: Very small chance to encounter eggs in wild(0,5% - 0,8%) and slightly better chance(+~2%) to encounter them on events. Depending on which type of field you encounter egg you will probably get that type of pokemon (40% field kind, 40% dual type including type of field, 10% completely different, 10% empty), and chance of encountering parent(50%) upon the egg. Of course, you could choose if you want take egg, or leave it the way it is.
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The chances of obtaining these eggs will be slim and rare as rare as finding an shiny pokemon. But I do like the whole concept
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The chances of obtainging these eggs will be slim and rare as rare as finding an shiny pokemon. But I do like the whole concept
Yea, becuase you just don't want random eggs.
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I don't know if it should be that rare...
Maybe 2-4%, with a 2% chance out of that chance it will be a rare Pokemon. Even with that chance, if the 50% chance of a mother (or higher) is incorporated, it will be a very rare chance of getting an egg. I'd say there should be a 2% chance of the pokemon being a rare pokemon such as Absol, so that the chances of getting a specific Pokemon are rare yet not completely insane, like the chances of a shiny Pokemon.
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I don't know if it should be that rare...
Maybe 2-4%, with a 2% chance out of that chance it will be a rare Pokemon. Even with that chance, if the 50% chance of a mother (or higher) is incorporated, it will be a very rare chance of getting an egg. I'd say there should be a 2% chance of the pokemon being a rare pokemon such as Absol, so that the chances of getting a specific Pokemon are rare yet not completely insane, like the chances of a shiny Pokemon.
i think 2-4% is waaay too much, just imagine every 25-50 steps on grass, and look, egg! i think no one will take it like rare thing but as pain in the ass. just imagine you want go to other town and you find 3 eggs, really nonsence ::)
and yes, if you use repel you have 0% chance to get an egg
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As logical as it is, (and when has Pokemon ever followed logic?) I wouldn't want to see them in the wild. Period. I would much rather it be part of an event set up by the staff.
From the viewpoint of a breeder, this would just not be fun for me. I already love waiting for that one, great egg. The rest are either set free into the wild or given to trainers just starting out. Or, that's how it would work if I was a breeder. Anyway; the idea of finding eggs in the wild is appealing, I admit, but I just don't think it would turn out well in actual execution.
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Ah, I was thinking it would be like 2-4% every time you would normally come across a Pokemon in the wild, but instead you find a nest. You may then choose to take the egg or leave it, with the chance of a mother being close by. If it is the way you guys were thinking, it should be about .5% or .8%.
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With those last two percentages ..yuu will neva find a poke'nest
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.5% every time you step on a piece of tall grass, babyHERO
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I think that 1-2% is enough, not too rare, not to common.
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There are 2 possible ideas:
1) o.5%-0.8% chance of finding a nest with every step in tall grass
2) 2% chance of finding a nest for every encounter with wild pokemon
Be clear about which option you are talking about to avoid misunderstandings.
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Do you practise any black magicks other than necromancy?
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Do you practise any black magicks other than necromancy?
Hey! That's Mr Pokemon's line!
There are 2 possible ideas:
1) o.5%-0.8% chance of finding a nest with every step in tall grass
2) 2% chance of finding a nest for every encounter with wild pokemon
Be clear about which option you are talking about to avoid misunderstandings.
...Or, we could take any one of the other fifty plausible ideas. Besides, 2/100 is stupidly high. that would mean that you would reach a nest, approximately, every fifty encounters.
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Funny this topic just keeps getting posts and I haven't checked it once.
Either way, this is a good idea... also I good story line would be if a pidgey is protecting ome eggs and you try and steal one then it attacks you are you pass out and the champion comes and saves you and you talk to them, then they take you to see the Pokemon League if you say yes.
Sorry 'bout no punctuation, I was just trying to get the idea out there.
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Do you practise any black magicks other than necromancy?
Hey! That's Mr Pokemon's line!
This.