I catch the Pokemon I like ;D So I have always my starter + legendary's :P
I almost always use Machamp. It has pretty decent base stats and can also learn some moves like flame thrower that are great for sneak attacks XD
Depends on what you are talking about. Do you talk about the original Pokemon games, online games (like PU) or do you want to know what team we would buildt if we had every pokemon?
@ Leftovers
Trait: No Guard
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SDef
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Bullet Punch
- Dynamicpunch
- Stone Edge
- Thunderpunch
So the only staller is Yanmega.
Metagross @ Choice Band
Trait: Clear Body
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Def
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Explosion
- Meteor Mash
- Stealth Rock
- Trick
Yanmega (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Speed Boost
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk
Hardy Nature (Neutral)
- Air Slash
- Bug Buzz
- Hidden Power [Ground]
- Protect
Blissey (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SAtk
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Ice Beam
- Seismic Toss
- Softboiled
- Thunder Wave
Machamp (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: No Guard
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SDef
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Bullet Punch
- Dynamicpunch
- Stone Edge
- Thunderpunch
Gyarados (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Intimidate
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Dragon Dance
- Earthquake
- Substitute
- Waterfall
Salamence (M) @ Choice Specs
Trait: Intimidate
EVs: 4 Atk / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk
Rash Nature (+SAtk, -SDef)
- Draco Meteor
- Flamethrower
- Outrage
- Sleep Talk
Roserade (M) @ Focus Sash
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Spd / 4 SAtk
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Leaf Storm
- Sleep Powder
- Synthesis
- Toxic Spikes
Gengar (M) @ Choice Scarf
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Shadow Ball
- Thunderbolt
- Trick
Metagross @ Leftovers
Trait: Clear Body
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Def
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Meteor Mash
- Stealth Rock
- Thunderpunch
Blissey (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SDef
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Heal Bell
- Seismic Toss
- Softboiled
- Thunder Wave
Gyarados (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Intimidate
EVs: 252 HP / 60 Atk / 84 Def / 112 SDef
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Stone Edge
- Thunder Wave
- Waterfall
Dragonite (M) @ Life Orb
Trait: Inner Focus
EVs: 44 Atk / 238 Spd / 228 SAtk
Mild Nature (+SAtk, -Def)
- Draco Meteor
- Flamethrower
- Superpower
- Thunderbolt
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@Kamaran:
In Platinum, Machamp learns Bullet Punch^^
Everybody plays with Platinum Mod.
And sorry, I meant priority move insteed of revenge move :-\
So yeah, Bullet Punch is not used because of its type. Its good if a pokemon could endure with few hp. You shouldn't leave out, mate, that Dynamic Punch only has 5 pp.
And yeah, I Machamp's other moves can beat Yanmega. I meant that its the only pokemon you can switch in Dynamic Punch without high damage. And everybody, who is able to predict well, will switch to a pokemon, which is resist to rock moves (stone edge).
maybe i should have counterbug help me create a decent team ^ ^' lol
i like fire type pokemon especially the starters because they level up so fast... i like torkoal too as my pokemon emerald team..
So here is das team!
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Swampert @Leftovers
Ability: Torrent
EVs: 240 HP/216 Def/52 SAtk
Relaxed nature (+Def, -Spd)
- Earthquake
- Protect
- Ice Beam
- Stealth Rock
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MixPert
This is a standard mixpert, with SR instead of Hydro pump.
With leftovers and EV´s in both defense and HP makes this guy a beast, able to sponge quite a few attacks while being able to hit back pretty hard himself.
Earthquake is probably not a surprising option seeing as its STAB and has good coverage, and I don't see any reason explaining it any further.
Ice beam is there to take care of Dragons and flying types, and same goes here, the move in itself is pretty much self explanatory
Now on to the key move of this set; Roar.
Protect now replaces Roar. Works as a scoutting move, but also for some free Leftovers healing.
If all goes according to plan Swampert will roar away a threat and make something it can kill come in, of course that only forces a switch, but given
SR and a Hydro Pump even the things resisting the latter will lose a big chunk of HP.
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Dusknoir @Leftovers
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP/252 Atk/4 Def
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Substitute
- Focus Punch
- Sucker Punch
- Fire Punch
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Sub Punch
Thanks to Dusknoirs many immunities and of course the ability to take a few hits allows him to setup Substitute,
and then deal large damage to the opposition from Dusknoir's often underestimated Attack stat, and its impressive physical move pool.
This set often comes as a surprise to most people who I fight. Often switching in something thats weak to fighting, or even Gengar to counter it.
Gengar is OH-KO´D by Sucker punch, Tyranitar is OH KO´D by Focus Punch.
WOW now replaces Fire Punch, and im looking forward to seeing this in action.
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Porygon2 @Leftovers
Ability: Trace
EVs: 252 HP/216 Def/40 SAtk
Bold nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Discharge
- Ice Beam
- Recover
- Psych Up
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Defensive Duck
So here is my Gardevoir replacement. Using its near exclusive ability, Trace,
Porygon2 copies Intimidate and cuts Gyarados' and Salamence's Attack on the switch in, allowing it to easily take the beatings.
Discharge does a minimum of 75% to Gyarados, OHKOing after Stealth Rock.
But the fun doesn't end there. It can safely switch into Heatran, Vaporeon, and Jolteon, with ease, thanks to Trace.
It is immune to Fire when it switches into Heatran and forces a switch.
Also boasting Recover for self healing, and one interesting move Psych up.
This move allows me to come in on something that is trying to set up, steal it stats boosts, use recover and hopefully come out on top.
Ice Beam is there for coverage, making short work of those nasty dragons
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Metagross @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Clear Body
EVs: 28 HP/252 Atk/228 Spd
Jolly nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Zen Headbutt
- Earthquake
- Thunder punch
- Explosion
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Offensive Choice Scarf
So yes, a pain train coming your way!
MetaScarf is really useful, and brings some speedy power
to a generally slow team.
Working part-time as a semi tank, since it´s pretty bulky.
I chose Meteor Mash over Zen Head butt just because I know the move better,
I also felt that MM has better coverage than ZH.
Earthquake is great as always, and should be used on every
pokémon able to use it.
Thunder punch work great for me, if my other Gyara counter is
out of commission this one seals the deal. It also takes a pretty
OK chunk of HP from the ever-present Skarmory.
With the scarf this guy reaches a quite impressive speed, it out speeds all base 130speed pokemon.
I'm not gonna lie guys, I freaking love Explosion!
There is few things that are as satisfying as blowing up in the
face of some fragile sweeper! :).
I wish I could give you more info about this awesome poke, but I feel I would just be quoting from smogon since I haven't had the time to play with this guy to much.
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Vaporeon (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Water Absorb
EVs: 188 HP/252 Def/68 Spd
Bold nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Wish
- Surf
- Roar
- Protect
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Loud vaporeon
Ok, so thanks to you guys here on smogon, this guy now replaces my former team mate Jolteon.
He basicly uses the same setup.
Wish is a given to provide a "free" switch onto the correct counter.
Now I have placed roar on this guy over HP electric since this is a Wi-Fi team, and not only for smogon.
Im thinking of going with SUB instead of Either protect or Roar, but I cant really descide.
I really need the roar on this team, as many of my poke´s are easy to set up on, and with protect replacing Roar on swampert, this guy is my last hope of getting some sort of phazing move.
Protect does on the otherhand have a lot of perks, mainly getting a free heal, or just as a scouting move.
What sets this guy appart from Jolteon is his bulk, and side by side with swampert, this guy works hard as a damage spounge.
Since I just added him to my team I find it hard to be any more precis about his exakt role, and how well it works.
But have a look at the Moveset for me will ya?
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Venusaur @ Black Sludge
Ability: Overgrow
EVs: 252 HP/6 Spd/252 SDef
Calm nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Sleep Powder
- Leech Seed
- Grass Knot
- Sludge Bomb
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Standard
Even if I said it in the beginning of my post, I'm gonna make myself clear.
Don't underestimate this guy, hes a valuable asset to my team,
and brings a lot to the table seeing as this guy is the only means of dealing with a strong grass type hence, he carries Sludge Bomb.
You are welcome to help me improve my team, but just saying "switch Venusaur for Roserade" ain't the kind of help I'm looking for.
So this is how it works; Put something to sleep, Leach Seed on the switch, assuming SR is up (which is usually is considering my lead)
the pokemon that decides to switch in has already taken some damage, and in some cases healed venusar some as well.
Some might also argue that Celebi does this job a lot better, and there for think Venusaur should be discarded entirely.
But the thing that puts venusaur above Celebie in my eyes are the ever increasing presence of bug moves such as U-turn and X-scissors.
Celebie also fears Pursuit and Shadow Sneak, which Venusaur shrugs of.
"Venusaur can come in on some of the major physical offensive threats of the meta-game like Gyarados, Electivire,
and Medicham along with special stars like Raikou, Zapdos, Jolteon, and Suicune and foil any chance at a sweep.
Venusaur’s ability to sponge hits from both ends of the offensive spectrum while still maintaining his own offensive capacity with dual STAB sets him apart." - Smogon.com
I'm using BlackSludge instead of leftovers here, just because Venusaur is a pokemon many people would like to trick to equipping a choice item. But by trying this they will get a bad poison instead :).
Grass Knot is for coverage and of course STAB, which does surprisingly a good amount of damage to anything not resisting it.
And last but not least, Sludge Bomb.
Not only is this move my 2nd STAB move, but it also takes care of pretty much anything els that resists my grass attacks,
with Venusaurs great defenses I can even take on a celebi and come out on top.
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So this is prolly something I will be using for casual pve and some pvp.
I have a couple of competative teams aswell, but I dont feel like posting those.
@Swampert: Boring smogon set. The standart is 252 def evs... Use Metagross as lead.
@Dusknoir: its better to use Brick Break for Focus Punch, cause theres not always the chance to use substitute. If you want a sweeper, there are better options. For example Salamence, which is often used, has a good resist and is useful in lots of situations.
@Porygon-2: Tbolt > Discharge imo. And use Tri Attack as stab move insteed of Ice Beam. I mean Tbolt will also do enough damage if Salamence etc. is switched in. Then the next moves can do it.
@Metagross: wtf, Wheres is Trick? Really useful on a choice-Meta. Replace it with Zen-Headbut, that move is chansey unusable. I'd use Choice Band, which also wears my Lead-Meta. Even if the oponent switches in a pokemon with resist, youll do high damage cause of the high attack.
@Vaporeon: why sdef evs?
@Venusaur: yeah, Smogon set, too
Btw you should give a pokemon Sleep Talk. Its always useful to have a sweeping pokemon with Sleep Talk. Also, you need Rapid Spin. Venusaur is able to remove Toxic Spikes as long as it can survive, but you cant survive the Stealth Rock and spikes...
@Swampert: Boring smogon set. The standart is 252 def evs... Use Metagross as lead.
@Dusknoir: its better to use Brick Break for Focus Punch, cause theres not always the chance to use substitute. If you want a sweeper, there are better options. For example Salamence, which is often used, has a good resist and is useful in lots of situations.
@Porygon-2: Tbolt > Discharge imo. And use Tri Attack as stab move insteed of Ice Beam. I mean Tbolt will also do enough damage if Salamence etc. is switched in. Then the next moves can do it.
@Metagross: wtf, Wheres is Trick? Really useful on a choice-Meta. Replace it with Zen-Headbut, that move is chansey unusable. I'd use Choice Band, which also wears my Lead-Meta. Even if the oponent switches in a pokemon with resist, youll do high damage cause of the high attack.
@Vaporeon: why sdef evs?
@Venusaur: yeah, Smogon set, too
Btw you should give a pokemon Sleep Talk. Its always useful to have a sweeping pokemon with Sleep Talk. Also, you need Rapid Spin. Venusaur is able to remove Toxic Spikes as long as it can survive, but you cant survive the Stealth Rock and spikes...
@Swampert: Metagross is my only steal, seems like a waste to loose him so early on, also he has choice scarf set, and I badly need the speed, so making him my lead is a no go.
@Dusknoir; No... lol? Focus Punch is there because it has 150 base power, while Brick Break only has 75. If you are going to put Brick Break on something, put it on a poke with good attack stat. Thats not Dusknoir.
@metagrooss; Yeah... Blissey aint exactly a problem, and im not using trick lead set-up, its not good imo, id rather save meta for later and sweep.
@Vaporeon; Spdef ev´s? Where....
@Porygon2. Since this is a defensive spread, no T-bolt is not better then discharge. Paralysis ftw, its a matter of taste.
The problem with removing ice beam is: it does not 1shot slalamence, and salamance is faster then Porygon 2, so I wond have a chance to hit it one more time, and will just be OHKO´d by it.
And ice beam also has alot better coverage then Tri attack, and combined with electric few things fully counter this set. So no, you are wrong.
@Venusaur; Its actully the set straight from advance version. And its pretty standard, yeah... there is a reason for it being standard you know.
Oh man, where did you learn Pokemon?
You can't tell me im a noob, cause that wouldn't explain I pwn Netbattle >_>
Anyway, I know what im talking about. I already used them all and my experiences really showed whats better.
1. I didn't tell you to use a lead-meta with offensive set. And yes, Choice item meta owns, one of the best leads. Why? You can use Stealth Rock. You can trick the oponent every time. You can attack with a chansey high attack. Its bulky enough to be a lead. Other trick-leads will get the choice band. You can switch that Meta in later when you predict trick.
2. You seem not to know Dusknoirs base attack. Brick Break is good enough and can break the reflect and light screen. I mean, Brick Break will also pwn Blissey, so wheres the difference? I will just switch in a pokemon, which stalls or a bulky roarer etc.
3. Trick is not just a mov to beat Blissey. But if you really can't beat it, then im sorry for you
4. Sry, I meant Speed. Even worse than sp. defense haha
5. Yeah, you have no skill u bob
6. doesn't matter you are copying from smogon >_>
7. muahah you noob, learn how to play pokemon against other players, not against the weak cpu's.
Don't try to make my post be wrong, I know I'm right
Oh man, where did you learn Pokemon?
You can't tell me im a noob, cause that wouldn't explain I pwn Netbattle >_>
Anyway, I know what im talking about. I already used them all and my experiences really showed whats better.
1. I didn't tell you to use a lead-meta with offensive set. And yes, Choice item meta owns, one of the best leads. Why? You can use Stealth Rock. You can trick the oponent every time. You can attack with a chansey high attack. Its bulky enough to be a lead. Other trick-leads will get the choice band. You can switch that Meta in later when you predict trick.
2. You seem not to know Dusknoirs base attack. Brick Break is good enough and can break the reflect and light screen. I mean, Brick Break will also pwn Blissey, so wheres the difference? I will just switch in a pokemon, which stalls or a bulky roarer etc.
3. Trick is not just a mov to beat Blissey. But if you really can't beat it, then im sorry for you
4. Sry, I meant Speed. Even worse than sp. defense haha
5. Yeah, you have no skill u bob
6. doesn't matter you are copying from smogon >_>
7. muahah you noob, learn how to play pokemon against other players, not against the weak cpu's.
Don't try to make my post be wrong, I know I'm right
i like fire type pokemon especially the starters because they level up so fast... i like torkoal too as my pokemon emerald team..
In fact, all three starters level up the same rate. It's only the type of pokemon you battle which determine the amount of exp you gain.
Nice plan Stephen you seem very experienced.
Houndoom (M) @ Scope LensDubble team is as now "not viable" in the current meta game. Accuracy reducing or "dodge" increasing ones are seen as "op" Just so you know.
Ability: Flash Fire
EVs: 4 HP/253 Spd/253 SAtk
Hasty nature (+Spd, -Def)
- Dark Pulse
- Flamethrower
- Sludge Bomb
- Double Team
---Same thing here with Double Team, otherwise set looks fine.
Scyther (M) @ Scope Lens
Ability: Technician
EVs: 4 HP/253 Atk/253 Spd
Hasty nature (+Spd, -Def)
- Aerial Ace
- Double Team
- Night Slash
- X-Scissor
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Zangoose (M) @ Scope LensIm not a big fan of Zangoose and nor am I an expert on this pokemon, but I s ay remove one of the punch moves and get some STAB in there.
Ability: Immunity
EVs: 4 HP/253 Atk/253 Spd
Lonely nature (+Atk, -Def)
- Fire Punch
- Ice Punch
- Thunderpunch
- Night Slash
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Absol (M) @ Scope LensWell, at least you got a stab move in there this time...
Ability: Super Luck
EVs: 4 HP/253 Atk/253 Spd
Hasty nature (+Spd, -Def)
- Zen Headbutt
- Aerial Ace
- Iron Tail
- Night Slash
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Weavile (M) @ Scope LensI like this set, but I dont think you are utilizing Weavile´s "Fear Factor" here.
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 4 HP/253 Atk/253 Spd
Lonely nature (+Atk, -Def)
- Ice Punch
- X-Scissor
- Aerial Ace
- Brick Break
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Togekiss (M) @ Scope LensI have no idea what your going for here...
Ability: Serene Grace
EVs: 4 HP/253 Spd/253 SAtk
Hasty nature (+Spd, -Def)
- Flamethrower
- Magical Leaf
- Water Pulse
- Shock Wave
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@Gammal, They have been edited to work a little better and updated with stabs, I also included dusknoir instead of absol to provide a tank ;D It's just my favorite pokemon, and they havent been doing bad in shoddy :D
I also like to breed my pokemon so they have the best nature and IV set and the best move set. Then I train them for a little then I would start EV training them to max out their power and though it is time consuming it is well worth it in the end. Its good to keep your best team a secret so people dont know your weaknesses and how to beat you.
The EV training is important you´re right there but....
read this--->What about IV & EV points?
IV points = Yes
EV points = NO!
We will not implement EV points because we have thought of a far more awesome system.
true... but REGARDing to the console... the truth of EV training is very consummately of time but time does effect efforts. And I do recommend ONLY doing this on DS's games and not on GBA since you don't have Wifi for it. But for me, I've done EV training on GBA and I got it somewhat decent against level 100's poke I face from friends. ^^The EV training is important you´re right there but....
read this--->What about IV & EV points?
IV points = Yes
EV points = NO!
We will not implement EV points because we have thought of a far more awesome system.
Yes, but the topic wasn't specifically about PU, it's also about the traditional console games of Pokemon.