Pokemon Universe MMORPG
Pokémon Universe => Ideas & Suggestions => Topic started by: Sam on September 01, 2010, 12:56:57 PM
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Let me begin with the idea I have for HMs.
I was thinking, due to HMs being very annoying due to taking up an attack spot, maybe it'd be just a skill you could use outside of battle and not an attack.
I'll use the move Fly as an example. So, as far as I'm aware of, Fly will be pretty much the same as in GB/DS games, taking the player from one town to another in a matter of seconds. Now, with the trainer level system intoduced, I was thinking that once a trainer reaches a certain level, the ability to Fly from town to town would be available. Or even after beating a certain gym.
(Are there gyms in this game?)
It would be a little more useful to not have a HM take over an attack slot.
Also, a little more "realistic".
(Yeah... I'm talking about making a game where we catch creatures in tiny balls and make them fight each other realistic)
I mean, in the console games, what it seems like is bird Pokémon, along with any Pokémon with wings can't fly unless it learns the HM... which is... stupid.
(It's pretty much the same with Surf. So Water Pokémon aren't able to swim whilst having a person on their backs unless they learn Surf?)
So, all Pokémon that can learn Fly in the console games would have Fly as a skill automatically.
It would be all around better (in my opinion) if the HMs were just skills that aren't used in battle, but are used in the field.
Now, another problem you'll probably have realised is that you won't be able to access powerful HM attacks like Surf, Waterfall and Rock Climb. Maybe all of the HM moves would still be available as HM discs, and teachable as attacks if you wanted.
Ugh, I hope that made sense. It probably didn't.
Onto the second idea, it'll work fine if the previous idea mentioned is taken in.
At a certain level, trainers can ride their Pokémon on land, for a speed boost?
I remember reading on a thread, Mr_Dark mentioned that a speed boost for higher-level trainers would be a good idea.
Now, this would be a "field move" like the other HMs (if it's taken into account, obviously) and would be a skill Pokémon belonging to trainers of the highest level could have. This would not only give the speed boost, but look awesome, riding a Pokémon... which would separate the men from the boys, in a sense it would distinguish the high-level trainers from the low-level trainers, because in other MMOs, you can easily tell who's who just by looking at them.
Of course, this would only work outside, not inside any buildings or Pokémon Centres.
(Maybe even a mini game like racing an obstacle course could be introduced?)
Okay, that's all I have. Hope it made sense to everyone.
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Use the search bar please...
http://pokemon-universe.com/index.php/topic,328.0.html
http://pokemon-universe.com/index.php/topic,55.0.html
Yes, gyms are in the game. Look 'Game > Storyline' for that.
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I didn't really read the post, but Jerry's post seems sufficient to go ahead and lock this thread.
Sam, if you think this thread should be reopened because it is different and its questions are not answered by already answered threads, then PM me and I'll look into it.
Thanks
/locked
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Sam has asked me to unlock his thread so that he could elaborate more on his suggestion.
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Thank you very much, Weirddemon.
I wasn't suggesting slots for HMs at all, I was suggesting a new system where the Pokémon have skills that are used outside of battle. Very much like HMs, just they don't count as attacks at all.
HMs are moves that can be used in battle and in the field. These would be moves exclusively used in the field, thus not showing up as a battle attack.
I was suggesting the mount as a move called "Mount" or something similar, a skill exclusive to the field, unlocked at a certain level.
If this post doesn't seem to separate it from the "HM Slot" thread, then feel free to lock it again.
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By the way, Jerry.
In the 'About' section it doesn't mention gyms, only that you will be able to battle NPCs, that's why I was confused as to whether there will be.
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I quote 'The official Pokémon League Commission established no less than seventeen new gyms across the isles and started preparations for a Miryus region Pokémon League, to be held every 6 months along with many other competitions.'
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I quote 'The official Pokémon League Commission established no less than seventeen new gyms across the isles and started preparations for a Miryus region Pokémon League, to be held every 6 months along with many other competitions.'
Thank you! :)
I'll add bold and underline to emphasize the point.
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I quote 'The official Pokémon League Commission established no less than seventeen new gyms across the isles and started preparations for a Miryus region Pokémon League, to be held every 6 months along with many other competitions.'
Thank you! :)
I'll add bold and underline to emphasize the point.
Oh snazzles, yeah. That's in the storyline part.. not about. Your argument is invalid! ;D
Either way, touché.
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HMs are needed as attacks for example Surf can hit both opponents, flash CUTS!! your opponents accuracy witch means your opponents pokemon(s) wont be able to hit you that much. HM are needed too in battle for some trainers like me, what about Salamence? when he evolves at lv 55 he learns Fly because its his dream and he learns it by nature too, not using HM as atk slots is worthless and will mess up some pokemons natures too. Think about it..
And the fly thing lets stick to normal that way we will have (NO OFFENCE) noobs around all the time in special places...
But I do like you mount Idea sounds awesome =D thats something I would Agree with but alot of pokemons are bigger than others wont that take up other peoples spaces? and or you can make it so people will phase through other player cuz imagine few noobs blocking a road >.>
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HMs are needed as attacks for example Surf can hit both opponents, flash CUTS!! your opponents accuracy witch means your opponents pokemon(s) wont be able to hit you that much. HM are needed too in battle for some trainers like me, what about Salamence? when he evolves at lv 55 he learns Fly because its his dream and he learns it by nature too, not using HM as atk slots is worthless and will mess up some pokemons natures too. Think about it..
And the fly thing lets stick to normal that way we will have (NO OFFENCE) noobs around all the time in special places...
But I do like you mount Idea sounds awesome =D thats something I would Agree with but alot of pokemons are bigger than others wont that take up other peoples spaces? and or you can make it so people will phase through other player cuz imagine few noobs blocking a road >.>
It would really benefit everyone, if you would read a Majority of the posts, instead of the first and last.
The phasing Idea, Discussed, it wont be an issue
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HMs are needed as attacks for example Surf can hit both opponents, flash CUTS!! your opponents accuracy witch means your opponents pokemon(s) wont be able to hit you that much. HM are needed too in battle for some trainers like me, what about Salamence? when he evolves at lv 55 he learns Fly because its his dream and he learns it by nature too, not using HM as atk slots is worthless and will mess up some pokemons natures too. Think about it..
And the fly thing lets stick to normal that way we will have (NO OFFENCE) noobs around all the time in special places...
But I do like you mount Idea sounds awesome =D thats something I would Agree with but alot of pokemons are bigger than others wont that take up other peoples spaces? and or you can make it so people will phase through other player cuz imagine few noobs blocking a road >.>
It would really benefit everyone, if you would read a Majority of the posts, instead of the first and last.
The phasing Idea, Discussed, it wont be an issue
I did read everything, but by nature pokemons are allowed to learn 4 moves, having 4 for battle and 1 aside is like having 5.. but still if deciding weather to learn it inside battle or outside battle might be reasonable, but im sorry =[ ima true pokemon freak since i was 10 and I stick to the normal things
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Ive been with it since I was 5, 11 Years total
Hms, I think it should be optional whether they take up a Battle slot, or whether they are "Mounted"
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I'd like it if I didn't have to carry around two pokemon just to use as HM slaves like I usually do in regular games. Maybe at least make it so we can remove the move on our own instead of having to go to a move deleter. In past MMOs I've played, when you die you respawn back in town somewhere. So it's not like you'll be stuck in one spot forever.
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And maybe the speed skill would improve the speed of the mounted Pokemon.. good idea :)
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Haven't we been over pokemon as mounts before, in the BIG transportation topic?
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Nothing interrupts my rigoruos masturbation schedule! NOTHING!!
(Oh wait, that was a sig and not the actual post)
I wasn't aware there was another thread.
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Yes, I know my signuature is awesome...
But back on topic. Though, I'd like to request a change in the name of the topic to "HMs not taking Move Slot", seeing as the 'pokemon you can ride' part is already in a different thread.
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Yes, I know my signuature is awesome...
But back on topic. Though, I'd like to request a change in the name of the topic to "HMs not taking Move Slot", seeing as the 'pokemon you can ride' part is already in a different thread.
Your welcome.
*Pats Fry on the back, then exits*
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That only helps if they're checking 'recent posts' or something, not if there looking at the topic list.
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That only helps if they're checking 'recent posts' or something, not if there looking at the topic list.
Im not a god, (.-.) You expect me to do anything else?
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Sex-Crazed? Nah, it just emphasizes the 'abuse of power' if you're using it to get time to wank.
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Suggestion: Maybe leave TM's and HM's alone, but your character learns the skill, not your pokemon.
To elaborate, instead of a bird pokemon learning to fly, and a water pokemon learning to swim, you character can learn how to ride flying pokemon, or a water pokemon.
It an be kept track of in a skills menu, like in the main menu.
Ex.
Flying Mount- This trainer can ride a pokemon which can fly.
Surfing Mount- This traner can ride a pokemon which can swim.
Lumberjack- This trainer can instruct a pokemon with sharp laws to cut down a tree.
...etc
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Suggestion: Maybe leave TM's and HM's alone, but your character learns the skill, not your pokemon.
To elaborate, instead of a bird pokemon learning to fly, and a water pokemon learning to swim, you character can learn how to ride flying pokemon, or a water pokemon.
It an be kept track of in a skills menu, like in the main menu.
Ex.
Flying Mount- This trainer can ride a pokemon which can fly.
Surfing Mount- This traner can ride a pokemon which can swim.
Lumberjack- This trainer can instruct a pokemon with sharp laws to cut down a tree.
...etc
Hell yeah now thats a good idea :D would be awsome ^^
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Honestly I'd prefer there not to be land based pokemon mounts, that's what a bicycle would be used for...
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But how could you equate riding a bike to riding on the back of a Rapidash or some such?
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I'm all for *EXTREMELY* select ridable pokemon. I think an Absol would be much better equipped for mountain climbing than a bicycle.
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Well I wouldn't want every pokemon to be able to carry trainers. It would look silly to see people riding Pidgeys and Rattatas.
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I'm all for *EXTREMELY* select ridable pokemon. I think an Absol would be much better equipped for mountain climbing than a bicycle.
i agree with you actually on that except that also ridable pokemon should only b able to be riden on in certain areas, like absol in mountainous area, or arcanine in volcanic areas
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I would like to ride an Arcanine over volcanic terrain, now doesnt that sound like fun.
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I'd prefer a Houndoom...But thats just me.
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Besides, visually, a great many people would rather see their sprite riding a Rapidash or whatever than they would a Bicycle. Personally, it would make me feel special.
That being said, I don't think that they should be easilly attainable.
I.E. - If the average amount of money for a player is 50,000 PoKe, then a ridable rapidash should cost roughly 400,000.
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I dont think you should buy the ridable rapidash, instead training for your rapidash which allows it to be mounted. That way you need the money, AND the pokemon.
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I dont think you should buy the ridable rapidash, instead training for your rapidash which allows it to be mounted. That way you need the money, AND the pokemon.
You wouldn't need the money if you were just training your rapidash. This is one of those features that has to have gameplay win over realistic-ness.
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I dont think you should buy the ridable rapidash, instead training for your rapidash which allows it to be mounted. That way you need the money, AND the pokemon.
You wouldn't need the money if you were just training your rapidash. This is one of those features that has to have gameplay win over realistic-ness.
i got a better idea, one would train the rapidash to say a high level, like 60, and then one would have to buy the ability for rapidash to be able to be ridden, also this could work with the new electric zebra
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What about putting a certain limit to what pokemon can give rides.
An example:
The pokemon has to be over 3'00" can be ridden.
This way, Ponyta, Absol, Arcanine, etc can be ridden while others like Rattata, Raticate, Sandslash etc cannot.
Then we can apply the terrain restrictions, although it doesn't make much sense that Absols can be ridden only on mountainous regions and Arcanines in Volcanic regions to me.
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The pokemon has to be over 3'00" can be ridden.
This way, Ponyta, Absol, Arcanine, etc can be ridden while others like Rattata, Raticate, Sandslash etc cannot.
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FULL LIST (http://veekun.com/dex/pokemon/search?height=3'00%22%2B), if above statement is true.
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There are quite some bugs in Veekun... It lists Quilava which is in fact 2'11.4" which is not above 3'00" (and Chikorita: and Flareon: , and Espeon: and Furret: [which by the way is the same size as your character in Veekun! :o] and so on).
And I think firstly, those which can be ridden should be quadruped (http://veekun.com/dex/pokemon/search?shape=quadruped&height=3%2700%22%2B) and bipeds where Veekun has some more bugs in it seems... =S.
Maybe add some more thought to it. We could make a default speed of 2. On ordinary ground, bicycles and pokemon have speed 2 (except certain pokemon for example Lapras or Dewgong for obvious reasons). On road, bicycles get a speed of 3 while pokemon keep the speed of 2.
In mountains, all means drop to 1 except pokemon such as Absol which remains at 2, in volcanoes, Arcanine and such remain at 2 while others drop to 1.
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On mountains, there are other pokemon who are not quadriped who could still carry you.
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On mountains, there are other pokemon who are not quadriped who could still carry you.
And I never stated otherwise :)
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And ideal list of ridable pokemon ingame would have all the pokemon that
were Non-legendary
were quadrupedal
were > 3'00"
had a large spot on their back for the trainer to sit on
moved quickly
couldn't fly (Seriously. Riding a flying animal on the ground? No.)
and could hold the weight of both themselves and the trainer easily.
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Jerry i'd like to just point out that the terrain thing was just an example, of course one would be able to ride an absol or Arcanine in other places... but certain pokemon such as Arcanine or Ponyta would only be able to bring one in volcanic areas
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I too gave an example, a suggestion of how it could be done to encourage riding pokemon in certain areas.
But this part... I don't quite understand ???
but certain pokemon such as Arcanine or Ponyta would only be able to bring one in volcanic areas
... bring one ... bring what?
I know that fire pokemon would seem to be more at ease in such areas, and that's also why I was thinking about some speed system where the speed varies depending on the terrain.
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I too gave an example, a suggestion of how it could be done to encourage riding pokemon in certain areas.
But this part... I don't quite understand ???
but certain pokemon such as Arcanine or Ponyta would only be able to bring one in volcanic areas
... bring one ... bring what?
I know that fire pokemon would seem to be more at ease in such areas, and that's also why I was thinking about some speed system where the speed varies depending on the terrain.
sorry meant bring the player through, i was kind of zoned out when typing haha
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Ponyta and Rapidash seem like the two that would be the most likely to work in an open field, really. They're horses.
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Yeah, that's why I was trying to bring all of them to the same speed on open fields. They only keep their speeds on certain terrains while others get handicaps.
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I always hated having to take one of Pikachu's move spaces with flash but I think this was a very good alternitve:
Suggestion: Maybe leave TM's and HM's alone, but your character learns the skill, not your pokemon.
To elaborate, instead of a bird pokemon learning to fly, and a water pokemon learning to swim, you character can learn how to ride flying pokemon, or a water pokemon.
It an be kept track of in a skills menu, like in the main menu.
Ex.
Flying Mount- This trainer can ride a pokemon which can fly.
Surfing Mount- This traner can ride a pokemon which can swim.
Lumberjack- This trainer can instruct a pokemon with sharp laws to cut down a tree.
...etc
Of course I agree there has to be some thought in to what Pokemon can be ridden, I mean the concept of a human riding a Pidgey is quite absurd but I can't see this being difficult to think through. Might be harder to program though?