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Pokémon Discussion => General Chat => Topic started by: babyHERO on May 09, 2010, 08:57:20 PM
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As of currently i have 4/6 pokemon inn my team && I would like a dragon type to be included for the 5th or even both spots left.. Im having a hard time choosing bewteen the following pokemon ...
Dragonite
Salamence
Altaria
Garchomp
Kingdra
Pls, list which one you think is better and if you can why you think so along with a moveset if that isn't asking to much.. Thnks in advance ! :)
Also, If you would like to include two of the pokemon I listed that is fine because I do have two spots left 8)
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you have flygon too, don't forget about him. personally my favourite is dragonair, but if you want power before look i'd took salamence. he have STAB from dragon and flying moves and have really great att and sp.att, and don't forget speed :D
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Yeah I didnt include Flygon because I thought overall he iss weak ::)
I was thinkinq Salamence as well ..just can't pick him over Dragonite or Garchomp ...If you could only choose two out of the five i listed which would you pick ?
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Flygon makes a nasty revenger with a Choice Scarf, so long as you play him right. His U-Turn is great for scouting as well. He's more of a utility revenger.
Salamence is one of the most powerful Dragons in the game, barring Garchomp and Ubers; I personally don't like him, but I will admit how powerful and dominating he is. His mixed set is particularly fearsome.
Dragonite is generally considered a poor mans Salamence, but he has three things Salamence does not; better defenses, Extreme Speed, and Superpower. I prefer him.
Kingdra is a scary stand alone sweeper. It has so many options. Dragon Dancing for the attack and speed increase. It can be used on rain teams, or by itself using Rain Dance in its own moveset. It can learn a wide variety of moves, and has two extremely powerful STAB's. Definitely my second favorite Dragon.
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yeah ..But, Flygon just doesn't appeal to me for sum odd reason..
Ok, so Im' down to these three Salamence,Dragonite, and Garchomp ...and still have absolutely no idea which one {or two} to put into my team ..this is causing more than a headache than I initially imagined... Oh the reason why I choose not to include Kingdra was because I basically have a water type which is my starter Swampert\ Empoleon ..sadly I can't choose between those two as well :-[
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I think for starters you should choose Swampert over Empoleon because Empoleon sucks, terrible Moveset and stats.
Oh and as for a Dragon Type you should get Rayquaza
Oh and yo don't have any more Dragon Type choices that are not legendary, but why an all Drago Type team, I mean Dragon is my Favorite Type but, it will be hard to beat the game with all Dragon Types. Oh and what game? Are yo talking about PU.
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i like dragonite but mainly cuz i like 1st gen the best
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You should use kingdra. It's only weakness is dragon, which can easily be taken care of with its own dragon STAB moves, it can also utilize dragon dance well to up it's waterfall and outrage, though it can also be a special sweeper with access to hydro pump and draco meteor, and with rain boosts and decent bulk, I would say kingdra is probably my preferred dragon out of the bunch.
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Garchomp, Using Ground type moves can save you, Earthquake Style.
Then Stick a Charizard in the last spot, It can Use Dragon type moves without the Dragon/Ice weakness.
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Honestly, Kingdra is my favorite.
With one weakness, the sniper ability and a scope lens while EV trained for speed: devastating combo, he can easily take out the dragon users.
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garchomp can destroy all that you battle
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The big problem is that like most dragon pokemon, it has a 4x damage when hit with ice. From the list, I'd say Kingdra is the better. With Swift Swim active, it can take down any other dragon pokemon quick with a strong ice move, or with sniper dealing 3x damage instead of 2x.
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uhh if u want a dragon and don't have a water then go with kingdra if u do have a water and its not lapras or a legendary or kingdra get rid of it...dragons suck dude don't get one thats my true oppinion
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uhh if u want a dragon and don't have a water then go with kingdra if u do have a water and its not lapras or a legendary or kingdra get rid of it...dragons suck dude don't get one thats my true oppinion
Do you ever look at dates before you post?
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I still say that you go with flygon because he has great speed, sp. attack, and attack. My flygon knows draco meteor, dragon claw, earthquake, and heat wave. And the fact that it shouldnt really have a problem with ice types makes him awesomer. But if you dont want flygon, i would totally go with kingdra or salamence.
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I still say that you go with flygon because he has great speed, sp. attack, and attack. My flygon knows draco meteor, dragon claw, earthquake, and heat wave. And the fact that it shouldnt really have a problem with ice types makes him awesomer. But if you dont want flygon, i would totally go with kingdra or salamence.
And why would u say he doesnt have a problem with ice? Ice is 4x effective against flygon
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Did it ever occur to you that he has high speed and can learn fire type moves such as fire blast, heat wave, etc. or moves like stone edge and such.
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I understand that, just sounds like ur saying hes immune to ice
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Did it ever occur to you that he has high speed and can learn fire type moves such as fire blast, heat wave, etc. or moves like stone edge and such.
Ice Shard has priority, like Quick Attack, and is the most commonly seen physical ice move in all metagames. And while those attacks work, they also have lower than optimal accuracies. Ice moves, in general, have 100%.
So, Flygon can do well against opposing Pokemon with an ice move. It's usually better to U-Turn out into something that can take it.
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I dun like flygon...
:D When I pick my pokemon, I go as much with looks as I do with actual stats. Flygon kind of looks like a fly... I hate flies.
I've never used it myself, but Kingdra is a pretty good pokemon, and Dragonite is always a good choice, with the addition of making a lot of people (me) feel nostalgic.
Though, from that list, I'd say Garchomp, then Dragonite, then Salamence.
Not that Salamence isn't good, but...
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Not that Salamence isn't good, but...
He is as ugly as a rock.
But, I think I have a new favorite Dragon. (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Ononokus_(Pok%C3%A9mon))
In all honesty, I can easily seem him being neutered from the OU metagame. His only STAB is Dragon, but he has an Attack close to Groudon's, great speed, learns Dragon Dance and Claw Sharpen, and has a pretty wicked move pool. Plus, he can always use an ice reduction berry. Ouch.
Still, finally: we get a good looking Dragon to back up all that power.
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Were you referring to Salamence or your new Pokemon As Ugly as a Rock?
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Not that Salamence isn't good, but...
He is as ugly as a rock.
But, I think I have a new favorite Dragon. (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Ononokus_(Pok%C3%A9mon))
In all honesty, I can easily seem him being neutered from the OU metagame. His only STAB is Dragon, but he has an Attack close to Groudon's, great speed, learns Dragon Dance and Claw Sharpen, and has a pretty wicked move pool. Plus, he can always use an ice reduction berry. Ouch.
Still, finally: we get a good looking Dragon to back up all that power.
Theres that dark/dragon hydra thing as well Sazandra was his name (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Sazandra_(Pok%C3%A9mon))
He looks like he could be a good special sweeper. Yours has better stats though. I'll probably try and go for both, anyway.
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That dragon looks like a dinosuar! Oh, Shi-!
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Did it ever occur to you that he has high speed and can learn fire type moves such as fire blast, heat wave, etc. or moves like stone edge and such.
and ur making the mistake of comparing flygon to ice types i mean ur right he can destroy most ice types if u ask me but another type of pokemon with an ice type move is what i would fear if i were u like a nidoking ... i don't care what attack flygon does he is not going to ko nidoking in one hit...so then an ice puch or ice beam and flygon is history. and nidoking is just one of many examples
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I dun like flygon...
:D When I pick my pokemon, I go as much with looks as I do with actual stats. Flygon kind of looks like a fly... I hate flies.
I've never used it myself, but Kingdra is a pretty good pokemon, and Dragonite is always a good choice, with the addition of making a lot of people (me) feel nostalgic.
Though, from that list, I'd say Garchomp, then Dragonite, then Salamence.
Not that Salamence isn't good, but...
flygon is beautiful he is one of my favorite looking poke's yall are honestly the first ppl i ever heard say flygon didn't look good
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Did it ever occur to you that he has high speed and can learn fire type moves such as fire blast, heat wave, etc. or moves like stone edge and such.
and ur making the mistake of comparing flygon to ice types i mean ur right he can destroy most ice types if u ask me but another type of pokemon with an ice type move is what i would fear if i were u like a nidoking ... i don't care what attack flygon does he is not going to ko nidoking in one hit...so then an ice puch or ice beam and flygon is history. and nidoking is just one of many examples
Nidoking is part Poison and weak to Ground Attacks. Flygon is faster than Nidoking. He can easily OHKO Nidoking with an Earthquake.
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Try to condense your messages into a single post next time, deadae.
And flygon is ugly as an insect. If you find insects pretty, then I can undrstand why you might like flygon.
Anyway... In my humble opinion, there is a problem with the game if it is easy to OHKO when the levels are equal and neither of them have outrageously high stats.
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Did it ever occur to you that he has high speed and can learn fire type moves such as fire blast, heat wave, etc. or moves like stone edge and such.
and ur making the mistake of comparing flygon to ice types i mean ur right he can destroy most ice types if u ask me but another type of pokemon with an ice type move is what i would fear if i were u like a nidoking ... i don't care what attack flygon does he is not going to ko nidoking in one hit...so then an ice puch or ice beam and flygon is history. and nidoking is just one of many examples
Nidoking is part Poison and weak to Ground Attacks. Flygon is faster than Nidoking. He can easily OHKO Nidoking with an Earthquake.
really...try it and see dude.nidoking would survive the earthquake i garuntee he will have between 70-30 hp left....for one a nidoking can't ko a nidoking in one earthquake actually very few can.... so if nidoking can't do it what makes u think flygon can...? here these may help u:
nidoking- HP 366 SPA 269 ATK 283 SPCLD 249
FLYGON- SPA 259 ATK 299
Earthquake
Base Power
100
Accuracy
100
Move Type
Move Class
Physical
PP
10 (max. 16)Target
A random target (other than the user)
Priority
Normal
Other Conditions
OActivates King's Rock
OAcc.% Lowered by BrightPowder
XAffected by Snatch
XAffected by Magic Coat
OStopped by Protect or Detect
XIs a Direct Attack
oh and is that better frenchfry?
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lol try it and see dude then come back with ur head down and mouth shut nidoking would survive the earthquake i garuntee it
*Twitching*
...This... has got... to be... the MOST disrespectful, condensending, groundless argument I've ever seen on PU. And that's saying something.
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lol try it and see dude then come back with ur head down and mouth shut nidoking would survive the earthquake i garuntee it
*Twitching*
...This... has got... to be... the MOST disrespectful, condensending, groundless argument I've ever seen on PU. And that's saying something.
not justifying what i said but this was the worst to me:
"----- is everyone on the PU team as rude as you? i know your trying to explain things but you seem to have said it(typed it ) in a way that shows your a......(sorry for using a bad word) a woman."
sry i din't think it was mean but it was disrespectful i am sry. but i felt the same way when they just sat there and said a flygon could beat a nidoking that has an ice atk... ill try to be nicer tho i was wrong
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Did it ever occur to you that he has high speed and can learn fire type moves such as fire blast, heat wave, etc. or moves like stone edge and such.
and ur making the mistake of comparing flygon to ice types i mean ur right he can destroy most ice types if u ask me but another type of pokemon with an ice type move is what i would fear if i were u like a nidoking ... i don't care what attack flygon does he is not going to ko nidoking in one hit...so then an ice puch or ice beam and flygon is history. and nidoking is just one of many examples
Nidoking is part Poison and weak to Ground Attacks. Flygon is faster than Nidoking. He can easily OHKO Nidoking with an Earthquake.
really...try it and see dude.nidoking would survive the earthquake i garuntee he will have between 70-30 hp left....for one a nidoking can't ko a nidoking in one earthquake actually very few can.... so if nidoking can't do it what makes u think flygon can...? here these may help u:
nidoking- HP 366 SPA 269 ATK 283 SPCLD 249
FLYGON- SPA 259 ATK 299
Earthquake
Base Power
100
Accuracy
100
Move Type
Move Class
Physical
PP
10 (max. 16)Target
A random target (other than the user)
Priority
Normal
Other Conditions
OActivates King's Rock
OAcc.% Lowered by BrightPowder
XAffected by Snatch
XAffected by Magic Coat
OStopped by Protect or Detect
XIs a Direct Attack
oh and is that better frenchfry?
I am utterly confused by this post.
And a Flygon would be able to OHKO a nidoking with earthquake because he gains STAB from it
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So in other words, flygon is very strong and probably can OHKO a nidoking with earthquake. I really like that is has high Speed and both high Sp. Attack and Attack.
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So in other words, flygon is very strong and probably can OHKO a nidoking with earthquake. I really like that is has high Speed and both high Sp. Attack and Attack.
im telling u he won't ko him with any of his moves unless he has some super powerful move i don't know about or gets a crit he can't ohko nidoking and then nidoking is gonna turn around and ohko him
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Sure it can.
Damage = (((42 x AttackStat x AttackPower / DefenseStat) / 50) + 2) x STAB x Weakness/Resistance
Nidoking (Def boosting stat)
HP : 366
Def : 278
Spd : 269
Flygon (Atk boosting stat)
Atk : 328
Spd : 299
Earthquake: Pow 100; Acc: 100
Damage = (((42 x 329 x 100/278) / 50) + 2) x 1.5 x 2 = 304
Now, with a Life Orb;
Damage = 304 x 1.5 = 456
HP Left = 366 - 456 = -90
Oh noes! It owes HP! :o
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328 Atk vs 190 Def & 303 HP (100 Base Power): 372 - 440 (122.77% - 145.21%)
It's a guaranteed OHKO, even if Flygon hits the bottom portion of the RNG and deals as little damage as possible.
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my nido king has survived a psychic from mewtwo so and it aint never actually no nidoking i've ever had has been ohkd so read the stats all u want to when u do it its different
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Heh, the Mewtwo you battled was certainly underpowered.
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328 Atk vs 190 Def & 303 HP (100 Base Power): 372 - 440 (122.77% - 145.21%)
It's a guaranteed OHKO, even if Flygon hits the bottom portion of the RNG and deals as little damage as possible.
nidoking dont have 190 def?....and i don't even see how u added in def in any of this any way i won't beleive it till i see it and i've seen him survive stronger attacks frome stronger opponents but i haven seen flygon vs nidoking even on youtube so... its very hard for me to believe cuz i've had both lvl100 and nidoking is way more reliable than flygon he always ko's any1 he is up against
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Are we still arguing about this? can't someone just so something in shoddy battle, and prove this already?
Its not that hard...
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I dont think daedae understands how to do shoddy battle, but if any1 is up to it i can make a flygon and fraps the video of me destroying a nidoking
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Heh, the Mewtwo you battled was certainly underpowered.
the one from pokemon stadium....all it takes is my nidoking to get hit by psychic then use earthquake then throw out my persian and slash then the mewtwo is destroyed
yes please do the shoddy battle make sure nidoking gets ice beam and deck him for me :)
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That only shows that the Mewtwo is weak and cannot even attack three times within those 3 turns...
Turn 1:
Mewtwo uses Psychic
Nidoking uses Earthquake
Turn 2:
Mewtwo idles
Nidoking is switched to Persian
Turn 3:
Persian attacks first and KOs Mewtwo
A weak Mewtwo indeed...
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That only shows that the Mewtwo is weak and cannot even attack three times within those 3 turns...
Turn 1:
Mewtwo uses Psychic
Nidoking uses Earthquake
Turn 2:
Mewtwo does a little dance
Nidoking is switched to Persian
Turn 3:
Persian attacks first and KOs Mewtwo
A weak Mewtwo indeed...
fix'd
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maybe it was a weak mewtwo but why would they make u have to do all that stuff just to unlock a 6 vs 1 fight on a weak mewtwo? i just think i had a strong nidoking and a fast persian
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Actually the shoddy battle will require effort i do not want to give to this cause because everyone here knows a nidoking would be beat by a flygon except for you so im leavin it at that.
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Uhh to get back on topic, I'd say my fav in the lot is Kingdra, for the various reasons people stated above, but... I find garchomp quite lethal, correct me if I'm wrong, but he can get rid of anything,
high attack and speed, the only type that resists dragon is steel, and guess what, garchomp is dragon/ground, awesome combo, so ground beats steel, but okay you throw in skarmory or bronzong with levitate? no worries, garchomp got fire fang (or even better?) So yeah, I have yet to find a poke that would last 2-3 turns against garchomp, but I know, a faster ice poke does the trick, seeing garchomp cant learn dragon dance, but still :P
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Uh... Garchomp is Dragon/Ground, not Steel/Ground ::)
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Uhh to get back on topic, I'd say my fav in the lot is Kingdra, for the various reasons people stated above, but... I find garchomp quite lethal, correct me if I'm wrong, but he can get rid of anything,
high attack and speed, the only type that resists dragon is steel, and guess what, garchomp is steel/ground, awesome combo, so ground beats steel, but okay you throw in skarmory or bronzong with levitate? no worries, garchomp got fire fang (or even better?) So yeah, I have yet to find a poke that would last 2-3 turns against garchomp, but I know, a faster ice poke does the trick, seeing garchomp cant learn dragon dance, but still :P
My swampert would beat your garchomp
Also according to your logic, Garchomp would be the same as steelix, who is weak to fire, fighting, water, and even to ground itself, which are alot of popular move types in the OU.
But like Jerry pointed out, Garchomp is Dragon/Ground, so a Mamoswine with Ice Shard would tear through a garchomp and his 4x ice weakness
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rofl my bad, I was tired, it is dragon/ground of course :P (edited)
And yeah you're right, mamoswine would own it, like it would own probably any 4x weakness to ice dragon, I was just pointing out the fact garchomp can get rid of any type, because of his dragon/ground/fire moves, I Wasnt saying its unbeatable :P
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Actually the shoddy battle will require effort i do not want to give to this cause because everyone here knows a nidoking would be beat by a flygon except for you so im leavin it at that.
Ok Viper i don't 100% understand shoddy but me and my freind did it yestardy and yeah nidoking was one hit ko'd so ur right but nidoking is still alot more useful against others i think so i still pick him over flygon anyday. Jerry i checked the stadium stats for the speacial mewtwo and all the rest of the pokemon on Stadium and basically all of them are very low so u were right on that.
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In conclusion:
Most dragons are 4x weak to ice, so they get railed by Ice Punch/Shard/Fang/Beam/Whatever.
Flygon, due to its higher attack stat and speed stat, completely owns Nidoking.
The only thing Nidoking really has over Flygon is SR and Toxic Spikes.
If OP wants a Dragon, most of them are OP anyway.
Flygon's a good Scarfed revenge.
Kingdra's a beast and works even if your team's a touch ice weak already.
Mence and Garchomp are OP.
Dragonite has good Extremespeed sets.
Altaria's fair.
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Dragonite has good Extremespeed sets.
Can't forget Super Power; one of the reasons I've always preferred Dragonite to 'mence anyway, obvious aesthetic reasons aside.
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reshiram and zekrom would be good ;D
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reshiram and zekrom would be good ;D
too bad they are legendary....
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good point
how about sazandora or ononokusu from the 5th region oh yeah i forgot to tell you we have to wait till spring of 2011
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Flygon or Kingdra
My flygon knows fly(for evasion & fighting/grass types), Flamethrower( ice/steel types and to boost power),dig(evasion and since earthquake can't hit with levitate in effect), and draco meteor(you should already know 8) )
kingdra is the most balanced dragon(besides arceus) in gen 4. I ould prefer it knowing Dragon pulse, ice beam, waterfall and dragon dance.
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As of currently i have 4/6 pokemon inn my team && I would like a dragon type to be included for the 5th or even both spots left.. Im having a hard time choosing bewteen the following pokemon ...
Dragonite
Salamence
Altaria
Garchomp
Kingdra
Pls, list which one you think is better and if you can why you think so along with a moveset if that isn't asking to much.. Thnks in advance ! :)
Also, If you would like to include two of the pokemon I listed that is fine because I do have two spots left 8)
Dragonite, Salamence, Altaria AND Garchomp... all have 4x Ice weakness, but have specific traits which can overcome said weakness, if with much difficulty. Kingdra is particularly relevant due to it's Ice resistance and is a Sp.Atk type Dragon Pkmn. Although it's stats seem to be much lower. i can show each Pokemon's strengths and weaknesses (mostly opinionated):
Dragonite- a balanced powerhouse with more Attack and HP generally. Physical moves like Dragon Claw or Dragon Rush and Fly have greater impact, but can learn attacks like Ice Punch to counter it's own.
-Rock, Ice, Dragon weaknesses; the most formidable foe would be Aerodactyl, as it is faster and can deliver a fatal blow quickly.
Salamence-Intimidate lowers attack of opponents, around same stats as Dragonite but less Defense and Sp.Def generally. Powerhouse and physical moves like Dragon Claw, Dragon Rush, and Fly have greater impact.
-Rock, Ice, Dragon weaknesses; most formidable foe is Articuno. Ice-type Speed/Sp.Atk can take down Salamence in a flash.
Altaria-Status type Dragon Pkmn, mainly used to Dodge and irritate opponents pkmn, balanced stats.
-weak in terms of anything in regards to Dragon Pkmn, most formidable foe is Walrein. A hefty Def/Sp.Atk type Ice Pkmn can kill before taken out themselves. Abomasnow is also potent.
Kingdra-Sp.Atk Dragon type, has very unique characteristics with other Sp.Moves
-Mainly weak in Defense and Speed most formidable foe is Garchomp. Fast dragon move delivery will take this down.
Garchomp-Highly effective Dragon AND Ground type in terms of Speed/Attack.
-Weak vs. Ice, Dragon yet has trouble with Flying, Ghost and Steel pokemon. Most formidable foe is Drifblim, seeing as some status moves and effects can keelhaul Garchomp without damage being done.
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As of currently i have 4/6 pokemon inn my team && I would like a dragon type to be included for the 5th or even both spots left.. Im having a hard time choosing bewteen the following pokemon ...
Dragonite
Salamence
Altaria
Garchomp
Kingdra
Pls, list which one you think is better and if you can why you think so along with a moveset if that isn't asking to much.. Thnks in advance ! :)
Also, If you would like to include two of the pokemon I listed that is fine because I do have two spots left 8)
Dragonite, Salamence, Altaria AND Garchomp... all have 4x Ice weakness, but have specific traits which can overcome said weakness, if with much difficulty. Kingdra is particularly relevant due to it's Ice resistance and is a Sp.Atk type Dragon Pkmn. Although it's stats seem to be much lower. i can show each Pokemon's strengths and weaknesses (mostly opinionated):
Dragonite- a balanced powerhouse with more Attack and HP generally. Physical moves like Dragon Claw or Dragon Rush and Fly have greater impact, but can learn attacks like Ice Punch to counter it's own.
-Rock, Ice, Dragon weaknesses; the most formidable foe would be Aerodactyl, as it is faster and can deliver a fatal blow quickly.
Salamence-Intimidate lowers attack of opponents, around same stats as Dragonite but less Defense and Sp.Def generally. Powerhouse and physical moves like Dragon Claw, Dragon Rush, and Fly have greater impact.
-Rock, Ice, Dragon weaknesses; most formidable foe is Articuno. Ice-type Speed/Sp.Atk can take down Salamence in a flash.
Altaria-Status type Dragon Pkmn, mainly used to Dodge and irritate opponents pkmn, balanced stats.
-weak in terms of anything in regards to Dragon Pkmn, most formidable foe is Walrein. A hefty Def/Sp.Atk type Ice Pkmn can kill before taken out themselves. Abomasnow is also potent.
Kingdra-Sp.Atk Dragon type, has very unique characteristics with other Sp.Moves
-Mainly weak in Defense and Speed most formidable foe is Garchomp. Fast dragon move delivery will take this down.
Garchomp-Highly effective Dragon AND Ground type in terms of Speed/Attack.
-Weak vs. Ice, Dragon yet has trouble with Flying, Ghost and Steel pokemon. Most formidable foe is Drifblim, seeing as some status moves and effects can keelhaul Garchomp without damage being done.
this is why being a mono dragon trainer is so freaking hard...
I like salamance's new ability, Earthquake Spirial. it raises its attack every time it faints a pkmn.give it a max sweep set, meaning, only attack moves. for Garchomp focus on its speed, it is one of the fastest dragons available. draqonite: take advantage of its high defs, give it roost to take off damage from setting up a dragon dance. I could talk all day on how to use dragons, so that is all I will say in this post be back later to impart more wisdom.
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oh i just thought all of the previous pokemon games will not be able to play the other pokemon
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All I know is Dragonite is the coolyest on that list :D
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salamance next h then dragonite tied with kingdra
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salamence is best.dragonite and garchomp are also good.
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uhhhh.... guys? take a look at the OP
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As of currently i have 4/6 pokemon inn my team && I would like a dragon type to be included for the 5th or even both spots left.. Im having a hard time choosing bewteen the following pokemon ...
Dragonite
Salamence
Altaria
Garchomp
Kingdra
Pls, list which one you think is better and if you can why you think so along with a moveset if that isn't asking to much.. Thnks in advance ! :)
Also, If you would like to include two of the pokemon I listed that is fine because I do have two spots left 8)
It really depends on your other pokémon, what kind of pokémon do you need (coverage)? Do you need a physical sweeper/Special sweeper/supporter/Tank?
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I meant the date. =.=
BabyHERO hasnt been on for several months.
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Tru. but Hydregion.
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Boy, do I feel I was playing pokemon with the wrong mindset.
I just gave all my pokemon attack moves and dominated.
This was enlightening.
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1. wrong topic.
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1. wrong topic.
Not quite...
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Dragonite would be my choice just because he's super strong and can back it up
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salamance and garchomp arent in the game right....? if so then i say choose dragonite if those two are in the game i say salamance is a great choice but then again i like dragonite better than garchomp but that speed is very nice for taking out multiple opponnents with the right move set still salamance and dragonite are my choices
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Yes
They will be in the game.
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kingdra is best dragon in my opinion and i would like to recommend you to include it in your pokemon team
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Boy, do I feel I was playing pokemon with the wrong mindset.
I just gave all my pokemon attack moves and dominated.
This was enlightening.
+1 :3 lol my exact strategy in-game
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Add flygon
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Yes
They will be in the game.
wtf salamance will be in the game...time to change my dragonite out then
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What, you thought that Salamence was legendary? ???
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no but when i joined pu one of the first things i read said salamance and garchomp would not be in the game
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no but when i joined pu one of the first things i read said salamance and garchomp would not be in the game
Where did you read that?
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As long as they are not legendary they will be in the game, for player use.
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no but when i joined pu one of the first things i read said salamance and garchomp would not be in the game
No one on PU ever said that. Either that, or someone else immediately refuted that.
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Salamence is where its at 8). Garchomp is awesome to, both great pokemon.
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If you're still looking for help with dragon pokemon, or anyone else wants help, i recommend pokejmaster1 because he specializes in dragon pokemon.
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no but when i joined pu one of the first things i read said salamance and garchomp would not be in the game
No one on PU ever said that. Either that, or someone else immediately refuted that.
oh i see read wrong on the topic. It was called salamance banned from ou.... i didnt know about tiers back then thought they ment banned from the game.
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Garchomp fails as a dragon pokemon because it can't learn dragon dance.
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but its speed and attack with a choice scarf it can sweep team out
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Garchomp fails as a dragon pokemon because it can't learn dragon dance.
he ohkos most other dragons what are u talking about he is a great dragon and an even better ground type.... and i dont even like him
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but it is good to put it on a dragon team i not wrong there right
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From what I am reading,you my friend need to work out how to stop ice types.
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bloody hell people, most dragon type pokemon can carry a move that will put the hurt on ice types. Yes most Ice are faster then dragon pokemon, but some of the best mono ice counters are best used scarfed.
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What if you are facing up with a bulky ice type?Any ideas to take them down?
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Hit them as hard as you can and hope for the best. Dragon isn't a very bulky type.
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Most scarfed Pokemon are frail cause all the EVs go towards its physical attack and speed.
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he is talking like hes drunk there is nothing one dragon can do about a bulky ice type
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Then there are priority moves.Ice shard can hurt if set up right.
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y use a priority move vs a dragon just blizzard it if u have a bulky ice pokemon i mean
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I'm not the kind to use Blizzard and don't tell me to use hail.Curse Mamoswine with Ice Shard will kill.
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that mamoswine is a pretty good fighter and it take hit in the freaking As8
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oh so we are just two diff trainers i would never try to curse around any dragon b4 the dragon yes but while its there no cuz if they dont take u out while ur cursing then its the trainers fault not the dragons
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It's not as simple as a take out the 1 turn curser.If you didn't predict and switch that means the target get's even another curse.
If you did predict,there is chance that mamoswine can be faster.Depends on the pokémon.
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This thread is answered a long time ago, the OP hasn't been online in ages and this thread is really going off-topic, so...
/lock