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Title: Dark Pokemon
Post by: Eulogy on August 13, 2010, 03:10:28 AM
I looked around and didn't see anything regarding "Dark Pokemon." They are like Shiny, but the Dark version.

It would just bring a bigger variety, so then people could be focused on catching all the Shiny Pokemon, and then focused on all of the Dark Pokemon. Just a suggestion.

Agree or Don't Agree?
Title: Re: Dark Pokemon
Post by: St. Jimmy on August 13, 2010, 03:12:26 AM
Don't agree, I think just shinnies in the game.
Title: Re: Dark Pokemon
Post by: DarK_SouL on August 13, 2010, 03:16:56 AM
I do agree, I LOVED Dark Pokemon in G/S/C. They are just so cool and now you could experience Gen 3 and 4 in Dark Pokemon Also.

They could be like the Dark Ones!
Title: Re: Dark Pokemon
Post by: LeoReborn on August 13, 2010, 03:20:52 AM
I have Played Every Gen.
I dont Remember There Being Dark Pokes in:
R/B/Y
GSC
RSE
DPPt
Or anything other than, Gale of Darkness/Colosseum
Title: Re: Dark Pokemon
Post by: Eulogy on August 13, 2010, 04:10:27 AM
Me neither, but I still think it'd be nice.
Title: Re: Dark Pokemon
Post by: LeoReborn on August 13, 2010, 04:17:17 AM
I like Teh Idea, but What Does the PU Team Think? *Nudges Mr_Dark* Heh...Huh?
Title: Re: Dark Pokemon
Post by: DarK_SouL on August 13, 2010, 04:29:39 AM
Unbreakable if they say no you have to understand they must remake ALL POKEMON Dark.
Title: Re: Dark Pokemon
Post by: UnationConsideration on August 13, 2010, 04:32:34 AM
He Dark pokemon...can be shiny like leather :)
Title: Re: Dark Pokemon
Post by: DarK_SouL on August 13, 2010, 04:32:43 AM
I have Played Every Gen.
I dont Remember There Being Dark Pokes in:
R/B/Y
GSC
RSE
DPPt
Or anything other than, Gale of Darkness/Colosseum

You can find 6 or 7 Dark Balls in Pokemo Crystal, and maybe G/S unsure. Anyway it makes them Dark. The most famous is Dark Tyranitar like in Celebi the voice of the forest.
Title: Re: Dark Pokemon
Post by: St. Jimmy on August 13, 2010, 04:34:20 AM
I have Played Every Gen.
I dont Remember There Being Dark Pokes in:
R/B/Y
GSC
RSE
DPPt
Or anything other than, Gale of Darkness/Colosseum

You can find 6 or 7 Dark Balls in Pokemo Crystal, and maybe G/S unsure. Anyway it makes them Dark. The most famous is Dark Tyranitar like in Celebi the voice of the forest.

Dark balls don't make pokemon dark. They make it more likely to catch a pokemon IN the dark.
Title: Re: Dark Pokemon
Post by: LeoReborn on August 13, 2010, 04:39:51 AM
I have Played Every Gen.
I dont Remember There Being Dark Pokes in:
R/B/Y
GSC
RSE
DPPt
Or anything other than, Gale of Darkness/Colosseum

You can find 6 or 7 Dark Balls in Pokemo Crystal, and maybe G/S unsure. Anyway it makes them Dark. The most famous is Dark Tyranitar like in Celebi the voice of the forest.

Dark balls don't make pokemon dark. They make it more likely to catch a pokemon IN the dark.

Thats Dusk Balls, and they only Appeared in Gen IV.

Im still Skeptic, Show Proof Of Dark Balls?
Title: Re: Dark Pokemon
Post by: St. Jimmy on August 13, 2010, 04:41:28 AM
Oh, yeah ignore my post...
Title: Re: Dark Pokemon
Post by: LeoReborn on August 13, 2010, 04:47:45 AM
I have Played Every Gen.
I dont Remember There Being Dark Pokes in:
R/B/Y
GSC
RSE
DPPt
Or anything other than, Gale of Darkness/Colosseum

You can find 6 or 7 Dark Balls in Pokemo Crystal, and maybe G/S unsure. Anyway it makes them Dark. The most famous is Dark Tyranitar like in Celebi the voice of the forest.

Dark balls don't make pokemon dark. They make it more likely to catch a pokemon IN the dark.

Thats Dusk Balls, and they only Appeared in Gen IV.[/b]

Im still Skeptic, Show Proof Of Dark Balls?
Oh, yeah ignore my post...

I Didnt...I bolded it
Title: Re: Dark Pokemon
Post by: St. Jimmy on August 13, 2010, 04:48:48 AM
Thank you /sarcasm
Title: Re: Dark Pokemon
Post by: DarK_SouL on August 13, 2010, 04:50:00 AM
I'm not SURE they are in G/S/C but I know they are in the movie... AHA

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Dark_Ball

But I really think they were cleverly hidden in Crystal, Pokemon Crystal
Title: Re: Dark Pokemon
Post by: ghostman50 on August 13, 2010, 04:53:05 AM
I have Played Every Gen.
I dont Remember There Being Dark Pokes in:
R/B/Y
GSC
RSE
DPPt
Or anything other than, Gale of Darkness/Colosseum

You can find 6 or 7 Dark Balls in Pokemo Crystal, and maybe G/S unsure. Anyway it makes them Dark. The most famous is Dark Tyranitar like in Celebi the voice of the forest.

Dark balls don't make pokemon dark. They make it more likely to catch a pokemon IN the dark.

Thats Dusk Balls, and they only Appeared in Gen IV.

Im still Skeptic, Show Proof Of Dark Balls?

Dark ball (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Dark_Ball)
 
Edit: Chaos Control beat me to it
Title: Re: Dark Pokemon
Post by: LeoReborn on August 13, 2010, 04:53:33 AM
Ima google It....
Title: Re: Dark Pokemon
Post by: DarK_SouL on August 13, 2010, 05:15:15 AM
I have Played Every Gen.
I dont Remember There Being Dark Pokes in:
R/B/Y
GSC
RSE
DPPt
Or anything other than, Gale of Darkness/Colosseum

You can find 6 or 7 Dark Balls in Pokemo Crystal, and maybe G/S unsure. Anyway it makes them Dark. The most famous is Dark Tyranitar like in Celebi the voice of the forest.

Dark balls don't make pokemon dark. They make it more likely to catch a pokemon IN the dark.

Thats Dusk Balls, and they only Appeared in Gen IV.

Im still Skeptic, Show Proof Of Dark Balls?

Dark ball (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Dark_Ball)
 
Edit: Chaos Control beat me to it

MWAHAHA Yes I did! Anyway at least someone remembers ChaosControl, good times!
Title: Re: Dark Pokemon
Post by: LeoReborn on August 13, 2010, 03:30:44 PM
I have Played Every Gen.
I dont Remember There Being Dark Pokes in:
R/B/Y
GSC
RSE
DPPt
Or anything other than, Gale of Darkness/Colosseum

You can find 6 or 7 Dark Balls in Pokemo Crystal, and maybe G/S unsure. Anyway it makes them Dark. The most famous is Dark Tyranitar like in Celebi the voice of the forest.

Dark balls don't make pokemon dark. They make it more likely to catch a pokemon IN the dark.

Thats Dusk Balls, and they only Appeared in Gen IV.

Im still Skeptic, Show Proof Of Dark Balls?

Dark ball (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Dark_Ball)
 
Edit: Chaos Control beat me to it

MWAHAHA Yes I did! Anyway at least someone remembers ChaosControl, good times!

So do I, I call you chaos most of the time. =p

I shoulve said find proof of Dark Balls in Pokemon GAMES. I know theyre in the 4th movie, Ive seen it dozens of times.
Title: Re: Dark Pokemon
Post by: Sora on August 13, 2010, 06:16:34 PM
The problem are certanly pokemon sprites. It would take forever to make all pokemon dark, even so, as far as it's known from 4th movie, catching pokemon in a dark ball, is considered as evil. I wouldn't do it.
Maybe there could be a qest including some evil guy capturing pokemon in dark balls (that would be only a few or only one) and you would have to rescu them...
Title: Re: Dark Pokemon
Post by: Declan_23 on August 13, 2010, 08:03:29 PM
As long as the only difference is colour, I can't see it being too hard. It would just be a matter of changing the pallete.
But, I don't really see the point of adding these in on top of shinies.
Title: Re: Dark Pokemon
Post by: Eulogy on August 14, 2010, 05:56:36 AM
The point is that it would bring a bigger variety for players to catch. One trainer could focus on only catching shinies, and another dark.
Title: Re: Dark Pokemon
Post by: Jerry on August 14, 2010, 06:12:12 PM
Like in PokemonCrater? To be honest (don't take it offensively), I didn't really got the point of having 4 different types of each pokemon. There are already 493 (without counting the variations of pokemon like Rotoms forms and Burmy forms) and more are being introduced soon. Remove the legendaries, this will be 450+ pokemon and now add the Gen V when they will be introduced... that's an awful lot. I'm not against effort, but I don't really see the point of having pokemon with different colours as if they were needed.

IMO
Title: Re: Dark Pokemon
Post by: St. Jimmy on August 14, 2010, 06:15:54 PM
I don't see the point either.  So you change there color so they look more evilish, but can they like learn different attacks? Or maybe different abilities? Like if you have a dark Pikachu can it learn dark pulse or something.
Title: Re: Dark Pokemon
Post by: Eulogy on August 14, 2010, 09:45:20 PM
I see what you guys are saying. But yeah, there is already a whole lot of Pokemon. It's just something to think about.
Title: Re: Dark Pokemon
Post by: Chad29 on August 14, 2010, 10:36:20 PM
I don't really care for having an alternate to shiny pokemon, but since we already have a Dark type, they'd need to be called something other than Dark. Like corrupt or something.
Title: Re: Dark Pokemon
Post by: Jerry on August 14, 2010, 10:39:16 PM
There is only shiny pokemon apart from normal pokemon in PU.

Just saying...
Title: Re: Dark Pokemon
Post by: Eulogy on August 14, 2010, 10:44:22 PM
Yeah I know, it was a suggestion lol.
Title: Re: Dark Pokemon
Post by: LeoReborn on August 15, 2010, 02:31:06 AM
I don't really care for having an alternate to shiny pokemon, but since we already have a Dark type, they'd need to be called something other than Dark. Like corrupt or something.


Shadow Species..
Title: Re: Dark Pokemon
Post by: Eulogy on August 15, 2010, 05:14:14 AM
We were talking about adding a dark pokemon, shinies will already be in the game.
Title: Re: Dark Pokemon
Post by: LeoReborn on August 15, 2010, 03:46:15 PM
I don't really care for having an alternate to shiny pokemon, but since we already have a Dark type, they'd need to be called something other than Dark. Like corrupt or something.


Shadow Species..

We were talking about adding a dark pokemon, shinies will already be in the game.

I know. I was only mentioning a Term for said Dark Pokemon. We Dont want them being mistaken for Dark-Types.
Title: Re: Dark Pokemon
Post by: Eulogy on August 16, 2010, 03:04:15 AM
That wasn't directed to you it was directed to Chad29 lol
Title: Re: Dark Pokemon
Post by: Noctoli on August 19, 2010, 06:32:47 AM
i like the idea but i d have to say no if i was on the pu team just because it would take longer to organize the random percential and would cause the game to come out later than sooner.
Title: Re: Dark Pokemon
Post by: LeoReborn on August 19, 2010, 01:31:24 PM
Actually, There is NO Random Percentage.
It would be the same rarity as Shinies

finding a Shiny has a 1/8192 (I think, Im doing this from memory)
Title: Re: Dark Pokemon
Post by: Domo on August 21, 2010, 04:20:06 PM
(http://pokemoncardmaker.org/no/52819/(No-52819-dark-shiny-rayquaza).png)
Title: Re: Dark Pokemon
Post by: Jerry on August 21, 2010, 07:08:08 PM
Fake card... and even then, we are talking about the dark pokemon in the handheld games, not in TGC.
Title: Re: Dark Pokemon
Post by: DarK_SouL on August 22, 2010, 09:04:17 PM
If you wanted to make it look real, use real moves he knows, only give them one of each of the move type (Like Outrage is not an Electric type move), use capitals and just put "Dark Rayquaza" instead of Dark/Shiny (It is really a picture of Shiny Rayquaza though), make it a realistic picture that isn't stretched, Don't give him ultimate stats (HP, retreat cost, weakness None, Resistances All), don't make the moves have ultimate power and give them realistic description, make all the small things look real (You put Illus. The Card Critic), put it on paint and erase "www.PokemonCardMaker.com" from the bottom, and last but not least I don't think Dark Pokemon are Dark Type, they are regular type and just look darker them normal.

I know it was probably intended as a joke, just saying if you ever want to make a Card look real, do that stuff.
Title: Re: Dark Pokemon
Post by: Sora on August 24, 2010, 06:53:03 PM
I think thos topic got lost...
I'm not with Dark pokemon implanted in game, maybe in qests, but it was a good suggestion.

PS: Unbreakable, you where right, chances of finding a shiny are 1 in 8,192 or 0.01% ^^
(I'm doing this from head as well, but I was frustrated about shinies so many times, I remember the number any time -.-')
Title: Re: Dark Pokemon
Post by: Euronymous on September 02, 2010, 01:09:16 AM
I vote no.
The games that dark pokemon were in were terrible.
Keep to the classic game boy versions.
Shinies!
Title: Re: Dark Pokemon
Post by: xhizor8201 on September 02, 2010, 01:38:28 AM
I think instead of dark pokemon, we would use shadow pokemon, like in XD gale of darkness or coliseum. I tried transfering shadow lugia into my emerald while it was a shadow but it didnt work :P. I was able to transfer it after i purified it though.
Title: Re: Dark Pokemon
Post by: Tickles on September 11, 2010, 09:09:53 PM
I have seen the dark versions in the cards and a few online mmo's. They really are not that different from the old form, just with a dark aura around them. i have also seen ghost types and mech types in a few mmo's, but this one is about dark pokemon. ;D. I think its a great idea to have a large variety, it would make things more interesting, but its up to the developers.
Title: Re: Dark Pokemon
Post by: abodonx on September 27, 2010, 10:12:09 PM
it's a pretty cool idea but there really isn't any point in doing it because it would be just like another shiny

PU can't wait!!!!!!!!!!!! :P
Title: Re: Dark Pokemon
Post by: DarK_SouL on September 27, 2010, 10:19:46 PM
I think instead of dark pokemon, we would use shadow pokemon, like in XD gale of darkness or coliseum. I tried transfering shadow lugia into my emerald while it was a shadow but it didnt work :P. I was able to transfer it after i purified it though.

Holy Crap, you sound just like a guy I know named Jeff. Or was it Tanner? Anyway, it's weird one of this said the exact sentense "I tried transfering shadow lugia into my emerald while it was in shadow but it didnt work :P, i was able to tranfer it after i purified it though." ...weird.
Title: Re: Dark Pokemon
Post by: LeoReborn on September 27, 2010, 10:54:22 PM
it's a pretty cool idea but there really isn't any point in doing it because it would be sorta like another shiny

PU can't wait!!!!!!!!!!!! :P

I think you dont quite get it, Darks could get a slight stat boost, .... and Some people dont like Shiny OR Normal Colors, Granted that Not EVERYONE will like Dark Pokemon....


Ooh.... We could Just invert the colors.... I might do this, then post it to show you guys. =3
Title: Re: Dark Pokemon
Post by: Jerry on September 28, 2010, 11:53:04 AM
Invert colours? That's easy and makes the pokemon horrible...
Title: Re: Dark Pokemon
Post by: Frenchfry on September 30, 2010, 12:58:23 AM
That's just shiny Charizard.
Title: Re: Dark Pokemon
Post by: LeoReborn on September 30, 2010, 01:38:12 AM
Invert colours? That's easy and makes the pokemon horrible...

I know its easy, but have you seen it done Jerry?
Title: Re: Dark Pokemon
Post by: Jerry on September 30, 2010, 12:24:03 PM
I've done some pokemon when I was trying to edit some pokemon sprites, so yes, I guess I've seen quite a few.
Title: Re: Dark Pokemon
Post by: LeoReborn on September 30, 2010, 11:31:00 PM

The first one was my Avi on V1

The other two are dark Charizard, I did use different file extensions, So they are different

http://img816.imageshack.us/i/56101441.jpg
http://img809.imageshack.us/i/dark1.png
http://img714.imageshack.us/i/dark1c.jpg

Honestly, I don't think it looks that bad.
Title: Re: Dark Pokemon
Post by: Frenchfry on October 01, 2010, 02:35:56 AM
White outlines = no.
Title: Re: Dark Pokemon
Post by: LeoReborn on October 01, 2010, 03:20:31 AM
1- I rushed it.
2- Its easily Fixable.
Title: Re: Dark Pokemon
Post by: Jerry on October 01, 2010, 08:38:55 AM
One quick

(http://p1cture.it/images/85568932668979205493.png)

(http://p1cture.it/images/34583580285468141692.png)

Images become cooler than sprites as you can see.
Title: Re: Dark Pokemon
Post by: DrPinkies on October 18, 2010, 12:37:54 AM
I always enjoyed completely obliterating shiny's in crater xD  Especially when the opponent brags about how epic he is because he has a full shiny team, you see a shiny like 1/4 of the tim anyway in crater >.<
Title: Re: Dark Pokemon
Post by: matsterm on October 18, 2010, 04:34:43 AM
Dark poemon are AWESOME :)
Title: Re: Dark Pokemon
Post by: Amphi on October 19, 2010, 12:26:20 AM
*shadow* pokemon would be a cool thing to add to the game... if they were to be added i would say that they should be similar to the designs in Colosseum and Gale of Darkness, were as the player would gradually purify the said shadow pokemon until it eventually became "pure" once again, of course what the op says is entirely different from the Colosseum type of shadow pokemon, it seems to me that op would like a negative version of shiny pokemon, which would be fairly useless.... but anyway back to shadow pokemon, i believe that if that would be implemented it, it would most likely be an expansion. It would give players an opportunity to do something aside from gym battles or mini games if they're implemented, purifying shadow pokemon could become a sort of job, similar to how crafting works in fantasy mmorpgs.
Title: Re: Dark Pokemon
Post by: LeoReborn on October 19, 2010, 01:41:26 AM
Well said, Amphi
Title: Re: Dark Pokemon
Post by: Frenchfry on October 19, 2010, 02:44:39 AM
But if you were planning to purify it, then what would the point be of getting the shadow pokemon in the frst place?
Title: Re: Dark Pokemon
Post by: Amphi on October 19, 2010, 02:50:19 AM
But if you were planning to purify it, then what would the point be of getting the shadow pokemon in the frst place?
they could have different abilities than pokemon one would catch normally, this could compensate the new feature in black and white, called dream world abilities.
Title: Re: Dark Pokemon
Post by: Frenchfry on October 19, 2010, 02:53:59 AM
Oh, I get it. So they're losing the darkness, but retaining the benifits.
Title: Re: Dark Pokemon
Post by: Amphi on October 19, 2010, 02:57:57 AM
Oh, I get it. So they're losing the darkness, but retaining the benifits.
exactly :)
Title: Re: Dark Pokemon
Post by: DrPinkies on October 19, 2010, 03:26:35 AM
Again, Amphy I agree with your idea xD, I can't seem to disagree with any of your posts ive read so far.

Possibly shadow pokemon you could only obtain from quests, and/or NPC battles.
Title: Re: Dark Pokemon
Post by: Amphi on October 19, 2010, 03:37:45 AM
Again, Amphy I agree with your idea xD, I can't seem to disagree with any of your posts ive read so far.

Possibly shadow pokemon you could only obtain from quests, and/or NPC battles.

not exactly how one would go about obtaining them, i think it would have to be something like the following; the player would obtain a quest to get the "job" poke-purifier, after they complete that quest the player would then proceed to get another quest and it would pretty much become a huge quest chain that would go into the higher levels of your pokemon team and maybe beyond, also in order to move onto the next quest the player would have to actually purify the prerequisite pokemon, or defeat the shadow pokemon, whether it be wild, or npc owned.
Title: Re: Dark Pokemon
Post by: DrPinkies on October 21, 2010, 02:19:57 AM
Sounds good, as long as when pokemon remain dark they generally dont listen to commands, otherwise theywould get a huge advantage and new trainers will attempt to leave that one super-powered pokemon in their team.
Title: Re: Dark Pokemon
Post by: Frenchfry on October 21, 2010, 02:22:40 AM
Sounds good, as long as when pokemon remain dark they generally dont listen to commands, otherwise theywould get a huge advantage and new trainers will attempt to leave that one super-powered pokemon in their team.
But the quest chasin goes into higher levels, remember? You can't be a new trainer and get a pokemon that only comes from a level 60-70 quest.
Title: Re: Dark Pokemon
Post by: boyben10 on October 21, 2010, 08:36:32 AM
You know, dark is such a harsh word for these pokemon. I think they want to be un-dark, but we just automatically assume they are evil and don't give them a chance to change. I think we should call them "Misunderstood Pokemon" instead.
Title: Re: Dark Pokemon
Post by: Jerry on October 21, 2010, 03:41:45 PM
Or we just change it to something a little like in Pokemon Ranger Shadows of Almia where the 'bad people' are controlling the pokemon using some device.

Then, you try to 'purify' them from the harm the device put in them gradually.
Title: Re: Dark Pokemon
Post by: Frenchfry on October 21, 2010, 09:07:08 PM
Or you could stop thinking the word 'dark' means evil. Seriously. Is a black belt in Judo evil because his belt is a dark color? No. Is a black lab evil because its fur is black? No, they're actually the best dogs out there.
Title: Re: Dark Pokemon
Post by: Declan_23 on October 21, 2010, 09:40:13 PM
Let's be honest, the name 'dark' is not a good idea anyways because of the type...
I still fail to see the point of this though, we already have shiny pokemon, why add more of a different colour?
Title: Re: Dark Pokemon
Post by: Jerry on October 21, 2010, 09:43:10 PM
Me neither... there are enough pokemon to collect, why look for more collection if the idea is for collection?

The balance team is here to make sure every pokemon has the same pros and cons, adding overpowered pokemon would ruin their work!
Title: Re: Dark Pokemon
Post by: Frenchfry on October 21, 2010, 09:48:22 PM
*Twisting moustache*
Foiled again! You haven't seen the last of me, Jerry!
*throws smoke bomb*
Title: Re: Dark Pokemon
Post by: Gigalith on January 31, 2011, 12:49:29 PM
well, the dark ball is a legit pokeball
so if the dark ball and masterball are implemented into the game i think they should cost a fortune
like 500k/1m because dark ball gives a pokemon max stats and a masterball catches any pokemon without discussion lmao.
Title: Re: Dark Pokemon
Post by: Frenchfry on January 31, 2011, 08:37:10 PM
...Since when is this the pokeball thread?
Or even... you know... NOT dead?