Pokemon Universe MMORPG
Pokémon Discussion => Games => Topic started by: PkMn Trainer Black on March 03, 2011, 06:30:50 AM
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This is what My team shall be.
Palkia
Nature- Hasty
Item- Lustrous orb
Moves- Special Rend, Earth Power, Aqua Tail, Aura Sphere
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Dialga
Nature- Serious
Item- Amandant Orb
Moves- Shadow Claw, Aura Sphere, Flash Cannon, Roar of Time
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Girantina (altered form)
Nature- Timid
Item- Leftovers
Moves- Shadow Force, Fly, Earth Power, Draco Meteor
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Dragonite
Nature- Naughty
Item- Sea incense
Moves- Outrage, Surf, Fire punch, Fly
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Garchomp
Nature- Hasty
item- Charcol
Moves-Fire Fang, Dig, Dragon rush, Crunch
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Salamance
Nature- Amandant
Item- Focus Sash
Moves- Zen Headbutt, Crunch, Draco Meteor, fly
please give advise and ask questions. FYI, the reason I used legendaries is because there arent many Dragons that meet my expatations.
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If this team is for PU, I wish you good luck. Dragon Pokemon will be rare. I mean extremely rare.
Here's a list of all obtainable Dragon Pokemon ingame:
- Dragonite
- Kingdra
- Flygon
- Altaria
- Salamence
- Garchomp
- Haxorus
- Druddigon
- Hydreigon
As you can see, there are 9.
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Ya its really hard to rate that since only 3 will be catchable. Is this your proposed PU team? Well let me give criticism for the three that will be catchable then:
Terrible movesets and item choices for all three. Looks like you just grabbed 4 moves at random and threw them on your pokemon.
Also the dragons that you gave are all good dragons, and to replace the three legendaries using Kamaran's list, i would chose Kingdra, Flygon, and one of the new dragons, i dont know enough about them yet tho. However Kingdra and Flygon are very good if you learn to use them right.
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This is what My team shall be.
Palkia
Nature- Hasty
Item- Lustrous orb
Moves- Special Rend, Earth Power, Aqua Tail, Aura Sphere
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Dialga
Nature- Serious
Item- Amandant Orb
Moves- Shadow Claw, Aura Sphere, Flash Cannon, Roar of Time
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Girantina (altered form)
Nature- Timid
Item- Leftovers
Moves- Shadow Force, Fly, Earth Power, Draco Meteor
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Dragonite
Nature- Naughty
Item- Sea incense
Moves- Outrage, Surf, Fire punch, Fly
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Garchomp
Nature- Hasty
item- Charcol
Moves-Fire Fang, Dig, Dragon rush, Crunch
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Salamance
Nature- Amandant
Item- Focus Sash
Moves- Zen Headbutt, Crunch, Draco Meteor, fly
please give advise and ask questions. FYI, the reason I used legendaries is because there arent many Dragons that meet my expatations.
Legendarys: won't say anything.
Dragonite: Dragon Dance, Roost, Outrage, Stone Edge. That is the best move set for him
Garchomp: Swords Dance, Earthquake, Fire Fang/Crunch, Stone Edge. That is the recommended set for him.
Salamence: Dragon Dance, Stone Edge, Earthquake, Outrage. Classic Salamence set.
For items Dragonite gets leftovers, Garchomp a Yache Berry and Salamence a Life Orb.
Now for the other 3. Kingdra, Hydreigon, Haxorus.
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Dont listen to Rex either because thats not the best movesets for them. Honestly i could go on all day about different ways to use them but the best way is to learn them the way i did so go to the link i provide and pick the best moveset ya like.
http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/dragonite
http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/garchomp
http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/salamence
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Where do you think i got those move sets? SMOGON!! but I am anything but a mono master! lol...
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http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/dragonite
http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/garchomp
http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/salamence
Just to clarify.
The Smogon website is pretty much outdated when it comes to Movesets.
Their forum however, is the real deal.
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yeah, i use the forums, because that is where new moves and posible counters are listed.
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Yeah all of your movesets and natures are terrible!
Now that I said that, I wouldn't go with the Dragonite sets the others are telling you to go with just because they are outdated for gen 5.
Try this:
Dragonite @ Leftovers
EVs: 96 Atk/252 Def/156 Sp.Def
Ability-Multi Scale
Moves: Roost, Dragon Tail, Fire Punch/Earthquake, Thunder Punch
This set focuses on Dragonite's new ability, Multi Scale. With Multi Scale, all damage done to you is halved when you're at full HP. Roost makes sure you stay at full HP. Dragon Tail is ment for phazing and racking up damage if you have entry hazards and is a quick way to get rid of threats that would switch in. Fire Punch, Earthquake, and Thunderpunch are for Ice types, Steel types, and Water types, respectively, that would love to switch into your D-nite wall. This set works well as a lead or as something to come in after you have set down spikes/ t-spikes/ stealth rock. The EVs are for a more deffensive take and the 96 Atk EVs are just enough to be able to KO a few threats. No speed EVs because I didn't think you would need them since Dragon Tail has a lower priority and goes last in the round anyway. Plus with Multi-Scale, you won't need to outspeed anything since it will take ALOT to KO you.
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This isn't my team for PU, Since I won't use Legends. It probaly lookes random Viper because I like versatility and I never really had the chance to play compettetively. Natures are terrible because That's how I caught them (Legendaries). Palkia I had to trade for because I only have Diamond. The others I can breed. Anyhow, Thanks for the help!
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Dont listen to Rex either because thats not the best movesets for them. Honestly i could go on all day about different ways to use them but the best way is to learn them the way i did so go to the link i provide and pick the best moveset ya like.
http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/dragonite
http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/garchomp
http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/salamence
Dude...
I have a huge problem with people looking up stuff like this. I think that guides of any type ruin games, because they take away the surprise. With a guide of any sort you lose the feeling of discovery. And honestly what's the point of raising a pokemon if I already know everything it can do?
(I'm not trying to be a dick but, I just think any type of guide makes a game not worth playing. and yes your link is a guide, a move set guide.)
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This isn't my team for PU, Since I won't use Legends. It probaly lookes random Viper because I like versatility and I never really had the chance to play compettetively. Natures are terrible because That's how I caught them (Legendaries). Palkia I had to trade for because I only have Diamond. The others I can breed. Anyhow, Thanks for the help!
Natures are actually a pretty important part so when you make your team for PU i would suggest looking up what each one does if you dont know them already.
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I like keeping the Pokémon anime series (not the same party, but yes, never have legendaries!)
I'd like this team:
Lucario: Aura Sphere, Hi-Jump Kick, Psychic, Confuse Ray
Glyscor: X-Scizor, Cut, Fly, Slash
Pikachu: Electric Foray (dont know how to say it, im portuguese), Thunder Shock, Thunder Bolt, Bolt Tackle
Staraptor: Aerial Ace, Wing Attack, Steel Wing, Fly
Buizel: Hydro Pump, Surf, Dive, Waterfall
Tsutarja: Grass Mixer, Vine Whip, Leaf Tornado, Leaf Storm
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I like keeping the Pokémon anime series (not the same party, but yes, never have legendaries!)
I'd like this team:
Lucario: Aura Sphere, Hi-Jump Kick, Psychic, Confuse Ray
Glyscor: X-Scizor, Cut, Fly, Slash
Pikachu: Electric Foray (dont know how to say it, im portuguese), Thunder Shock, Thunder Bolt, Bolt Tackle
Staraptor: Aerial Ace, Wing Attack, Steel Wing, Fly
Buizel: Hydro Pump, Surf, Dive, Waterfall
Tsutarja: Grass Mixer, Vine Whip, Leaf Tornado, Leaf Storm
Random post +1
Seriously if you want to post your team go to the post your team thread. We are trying to help our Black here
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I like keeping the Pokémon anime series (not the same party, but yes, never have legendaries!)
I'd like this team:
Lucario: Aura Sphere, Hi-Jump Kick, Psychic, Confuse Ray
Glyscor: X-Scizor, Cut, Fly, Slash
Pikachu: Electric Foray (dont know how to say it, im portuguese), Thunder Shock, Thunder Bolt, Bolt Tackle
Staraptor: Aerial Ace, Wing Attack, Steel Wing, Fly
Buizel: Hydro Pump, Surf, Dive, Waterfall
Tsutarja: Grass Mixer, Vine Whip, Leaf Tornado, Leaf Storm
Wait...what? Another horrible team? Anyway back to topic. Why is Garchomp holding Charcol? You know that raises fire type moves, right? Garchomp doesn't get stab on it so its kinda a waste of an item. Maybe give it a life orb?
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could you put an option for 0 on the poll, honestly, as a PU team you are screwed as soon as you battle an Ice type, Even as a PO team, Ice destroys 4 of your team, after them you have a fast dragon type to demolish Palkia. On PO, if you are lucky you will end up as Dialga Vs 4 pokemon, Dialga may be able to withstand one or two of those four pokemon (again, that is if you are lucky) but after that you're done.
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Legendaries are uncatchable on PU, And this is a main Type team, Plus the fact that I don't really use legendaries.
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I realise that black, but what I said was that as a PU team you would be screwed (as you'd only have three pokemon) and as a Pokemon Online team it would still be easily destroyed, with the exception of Dialga, who could withstand a couple of pokemon before falling to defeat
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I realise that black, but what I said was that as a PU team you would be screwed (as you'd only have three pokemon) and as a Pokemon Online team it would still be easily destroyed, with the exception of Dialga, who could withstand a couple of pokemon before falling to defeat
While your logic is true, your argument is a bit off. Dialga is not the only one who can withstand an ice move. Palkia also take neutral damage to ice attacks. Most of the dragons she listed can take quite a few hits thanks to their high deffence or HP such as Garchomp and Dragonite. Salamance can also take a few hits on the physical side thanks to intimadate.
Black, if you like I can help you make a decent dragon team. I'm not as knowlegable with dragon types as I am with psychic types but I bet I could give you a good start that you can branch off of.
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Okay, but let's make one thing clear: I'm not a female, I don't wish to be one, but i'm just facinated by them.(With a calm teen boy voice)
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Oh I'm sorry haha XD
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But yeah. Help is appreciated.
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Dude...
I have a huge problem with people looking up stuff like this. I think that guides of any type ruin games, because they take away the surprise. With a guide of any sort you lose the feeling of discovery. And honestly what's the point of raising a pokemon if I already know everything it can do?
(I'm not trying to be a dick but, I just think any type of guide makes a game not worth playing. and yes your link is a guide, a move set guide.)
So you're against the spreading of information so people can get better and have more fun tournaments?
Okay *shrug*
Look, don't blame Smogon for giving out good information. Blame the people who are blindly reliant on it, and just copy and paste their teams from it.
Smogon encourage people to make their own teams, and constantly try to explain to people that the standard sets on each poke's profile aren't the be-all end-all of that Pokemon and that their sets will completely change depending on your team.
Though when it comes down to it, just a few months ago I had to explain to my friend why Swords Dance isn't a poop move in some cases - and frankly I'd rather have people copying Smogon than simply being ignorant of any move that isn't over 70 Power.