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Pokémon Universe => Ideas & Suggestions => Topic started by: Kuhns on January 28, 2010, 09:22:42 PM

Title: The BIG transportation topic (bikes, skateboards, etc..)
Post by: Kuhns on January 28, 2010, 09:22:42 PM
Why use only bikes?

It'd be a cool feature if we could use:

-Skateboards
-Scooters
-Skates

A mess of players  riding around on bikes is no fun at all, so why not mix things up with some other means of ground transportation? It'll also add another nice layer of customization to the game.

Mr_Dark: UPDATE
This topic can be used to discuss all kinds of transportation now.
Title: Re: Bikes are overrated
Post by: Declan_23 on January 28, 2010, 09:43:00 PM
I'm pretty sure there was a topic about this on the old website... Anyway, I think the conclusion was that there probably would be more than one method of transport.
To be perfectly honest, after getting the HM fly (Hopefully this will work like in the GBA/DS games) I only use a bike to get to new towns.
Title: Re: Bikes are overrated
Post by: oslash on January 28, 2010, 09:56:59 PM
this is a cool idea

but there will be difference of speed between these?
Title: Re: Bikes are overrated
Post by: Kuhns on January 28, 2010, 09:59:59 PM
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'm pretty sure there was a topic about this on the old website... Anyway, I think the conclusion was that there probably would be more than one method of transport.
To be perfectly honest, after getting the HM fly (Hopefully this will work like in the GBA/DS games) I only use a bike to get to new towns.

Ugh, so annoying. I wasn't very active on the old site so my knowledge of what topics were on it are shoddy.  ::)

I know there'll be different types of bikes, but using a skateboard would be awesome. :P

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but there will be difference of speed between these?

I was just thinking more available means of transport other then bikes.
Title: Re: Bikes are overrated
Post by: Mr_Dark on January 28, 2010, 10:05:54 PM
I'll look into this when I'm going to implement transportation. I can assure you there will be other kinds of transportation than bikes.
Title: Re: Bikes are overrated
Post by: Gingimon on January 28, 2010, 10:09:12 PM
i think that you should be able to ride pokemon like rapidash as a form of transportation
Title: Re: Bikes are overrated
Post by: Dvys on January 28, 2010, 11:33:51 PM
i think that you should be able to ride pokemon like rapidash as a form of transportation
That will take a lot of sprites to realise, so I'm almost sure this ain't gonna happen  ;)

....
To be perfectly honest, after getting the HM fly (Hopefully this will work like in the GBA/DS games) I only use a bike to get to new towns.
Maybe it's an idea to put a cooldown system on the HM Fly? In other MMORPG's you can go from point A to B by;
1) Walk/Fly (just like walking, but in air)/Drive
2) Teleport portal (cost money)
3) Teleport item

If people have the ability to FLY with their Pokemon (like the GB games), it will ruin some of the balance between fast an slow transport..
~ Flying almost everywhere..

Also, I think it should be not possible to fly to another island (to far away).. Instead you will  have to take a ship or air plane  :P

Title: Re: Bikes are overrated
Post by: Gingimon on January 28, 2010, 11:40:33 PM
Not really, just make like 2 or 3 Pokemon to be ride able, like not all 293, or maybe use the legendaries in this way since they wont battle.
Title: Re: Bikes are overrated
Post by: Kuhns on January 28, 2010, 11:49:13 PM
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Not really, just make like 2 or 3 Pokemon to be ride able, like not all 293, or maybe use the legendaries in this way since they wont battle.


Hm, 'not really' eh? Well, who's to say which Pokemon'll be...ride-afied? I'm not even going to go into the implications of having ride...able legendaries. Just no, I do remember this being discussed somewhere before, and the answer I believe was: No.
Title: Re: Bikes are overrated
Post by: Gingimon on January 29, 2010, 12:10:32 AM
I am talking to a member of the staff and they said its put on the "shelves for later", and There are only like 5 pokemon at most that are even possible to ride
no1 is going to request a Spiritomb or a Snorlax or something like that
Title: Re: Bikes are overrated
Post by: Kuhns on January 29, 2010, 12:28:04 AM
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I am talking to a member of the staff and they said its put on the "shelves for later", and There are only like 5 pokemon at most that are even possible to ride
no1 is going to request a Spiritomb or a Snorlax or something like that

Okay.  ::)

Let's get back on topic people.

In terms of the Skateboard/Skates thing, it might be a good idea to have those cost less then a bike. Yes, they might go slower but they'll leave the bike to higher level trainers.

Like in terms of speed and price:

Running Shoes
<
Scooter
<
Skateboard
<
Skates
<
Bike

Title: Re: Bikes are overrated
Post by: The Fireball Kid on January 29, 2010, 03:44:53 AM
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I am talking to a member of the staff and they said its put on the "shelves for later", and There are only like 5 pokemon at most that are even possible to ride
no1 is going to request a Spiritomb or a Snorlax or something like that

Okay.  ::)

Let's get back on topic people.

In terms of the Skateboard/Skates thing, it might be a good idea to have those cost less then a bike. Yes, they might go slower but they'll leave the bike to higher level trainers.

Like in terms of speed and price:

Running Shoes
<
Scooter
<
Skateboard
<
Skates
<
Bike

I think they should all be at the same speed. This should be a preference. Some people might like skateboard more than bike or vice versa. Maybe only have shoes with the least speed.
Title: Re: Bikes are overrated
Post by: Mr_Dark on January 29, 2010, 02:28:36 PM
I was thinking about the usage of transportation. Think you should have some stamina bar so you can't over-use the bike/skateboard/whatever. When your stamina bar is empty you just have to walk (the bar will fill itself slowly).

The higher your player level is the more stamina you get so you can use your transportation longer.

I think they should all be at the same speed. This should be a preference. Some people might like skateboard more than bike or vice versa. Maybe only have shoes with the least speed.
No, every transportation vehicle will have it's own speed.
Title: Re: Bikes are overrated
Post by: ghostman50 on January 29, 2010, 02:37:16 PM
If the PU team can implement some sort of mass transit system, I think it'd be cool if there was some sort of railway/subway/trolley system in game.

Title: Re: Bikes are overrated
Post by: Kuhns on January 29, 2010, 02:41:08 PM
I was thinking about the usage of transportation. Think you should have some stamina bar so you can't over-use the bike/skateboard/whatever. When your stamina bar is empty you just have to walk (the bar will fill itself slowly).

The higher your player level is the more stamina you get so you can use your transportation longer.

I think they should all be at the same speed. This should be a preference. Some people might like skateboard more than bike or vice versa. Maybe only have shoes with the least speed.
No, every transportation vehicle will have it's own speed.

Hm, then maybe with their own speeds, comes different stamina limits. Err--like the bike can go faster, but it takes stamina away faster. The running shoes are the slowest, but they last longer.
Of course that really wouldn't make sense in real life.
Title: Re: Bikes are overrated
Post by: Mr_Dark on January 29, 2010, 02:43:11 PM
Hm, then maybe with their own speeds, comes different stamina limits. Err--like the bike can go faster, but it takes stamina away faster. The running shoes are the slowest, but they last longer.
Of course that really wouldn't make sense in real life.

It's more like the other way around. You'll get tired a lot faster when running then when you're on a bike.
Title: Re: Bikes are overrated
Post by: Kuhns on January 29, 2010, 03:09:11 PM
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It's more like the other way around. You'll get tired a lot faster when running then when you're on a bike.

Yeah, after I posted I was like, 'wait'....

My thought pattern at the time:

Bikes are faster=More stamina lost

Running tends to be slower=Less stamina lost


Title: Re: Bikes are overrated
Post by: Jerry on January 29, 2010, 08:18:18 PM
I thought that this area had already been discussed a little... ???

http://pokemon-universe.com/index.php/topic,55.0.html
Title: Re: Bikes are overrated
Post by: Kuhns on January 29, 2010, 08:51:51 PM
I thought that this area had already been discussed a little... ???

http://pokemon-universe.com/index.php/topic,55.0.html

That was on the topic of exchanging the standard bike for a snowmobile--I think.

This topic focuses more on lighter means of transportation.
Title: Re: Bikes are overrated
Post by: Jerry on January 29, 2010, 08:58:21 PM
Ok, I guess that is another section of the topic about transportation.

Another aspect of the light means of transportation is that they are environmental friendly in the games (except for the Kanto games and Johto regions where we had bikers). So, I guess skateboard, rollers should be fine... or electric scooter ;)
Title: Re: The BIG transportation topic (bikes, skateboards, etc..)
Post by: Mr_Dark on January 29, 2010, 10:17:07 PM
So end this endless discussion about the subject already having a thread. I changed the topic to:
The BIG transportation topic (bikes, skateboards, etc..)

This topic can be used to discuss all kinds of transportation now.
Title: Re: The BIG transportation topic (bikes, skateboards, etc..)
Post by: Declan_23 on January 29, 2010, 11:06:44 PM
Hmm, just a thought, but perhaps you will only be able to use the HM Fly to fly between the main cities of different islands (after you have visited them)? And on the island you use bike, shoes etc. to get around?
Title: Re: The BIG transportation topic (bikes, skateboards, etc..)
Post by: NaviGator on January 30, 2010, 02:49:53 AM
I realize someone asked about riding a pokemon earlier and though it would be fun its not realistic because of limitations and such. That got me thinking possibly later when tournaments and special events get figured out maybe a prize like a mechanical rapidash where it looks like a rapidash but its an item. Now for obvious reasons there should be a poll to maybe choose 3 or for 4 types of mechanical pokemon and keep them as extremely rare prizes. I like the stamina concept and I hope to hear more details on it.
Title: Re: The BIG transportation topic (bikes, skateboards, etc..)
Post by: boyben10 on January 30, 2010, 10:27:10 AM
Would it be possible to have small solar powered cars?
Title: Re: The BIG transportation topic (bikes, skateboards, etc..)
Post by: Jerry on January 31, 2010, 05:26:03 AM
Sounds good... powered by an electric type pokemon ;)
Title: Re: The BIG transportation topic (bikes, skateboards, etc..)
Post by: boyben10 on January 31, 2010, 11:49:10 AM
Sounds good... powered by an electric type pokemon ;)

Actually, it would be powered by the sun. Note how i said Solar powered.
Title: Re: The BIG transportation topic (bikes, skateboards, etc..)
Post by: Declan_23 on January 31, 2010, 11:53:34 AM
Sounds good... powered by an electric type pokemon ;)

Actually, it would be powered by the sun. Note how i said Solar powered.
or that sun pokemon, I forget its name...
Title: Re: The BIG transportation topic (bikes, skateboards, etc..)
Post by: boyben10 on January 31, 2010, 11:54:15 AM
Sounds good... powered by an electric type pokemon ;)

Actually, it would be powered by the sun. Note how i said Solar powered.
or that sun pokemon, I forget its name...

solrock?
Title: Re: The BIG transportation topic (bikes, skateboards, etc..)
Post by: Declan_23 on January 31, 2010, 11:57:17 AM
Sounds good... powered by an electric type pokemon ;)

Actually, it would be powered by the sun. Note how i said Solar powered.
or that sun pokemon, I forget its name...

solrock?
Yeh that one, maybe if you had it in your party you would get a small speed boost or something whilest using the car?
Title: Re: The BIG transportation topic (bikes, skateboards, etc..)
Post by: Mr_Dark on January 31, 2010, 12:37:16 PM
Hmm, just a thought, but perhaps you will only be able to use the HM Fly to fly between the main cities of different islands (after you have visited them)? And on the island you use bike, shoes etc. to get around?

About FLY, might be a nice idea you can only fly between big city's so you still have to walk to reach certain towns and city's.
Title: Re: The BIG transportation topic (bikes, skateboards, etc..)
Post by: Dvys on January 31, 2010, 02:29:54 PM
Hmm, just a thought, but perhaps you will only be able to use the HM Fly to fly between the main cities of different islands (after you have visited them)? And on the island you use bike, shoes etc. to get around?

About FLY, might be a nice idea you can only fly between big city's so you still have to walk to reach certain towns and city's.

Yes, that's a nice idea. Although, I think it shouldn't be possible to FLY overseas. It's a big distance and it would take away the concept of boats and air planes to travel between islands.
Title: Re: The BIG transportation topic (bikes, skateboards, etc..)
Post by: Jerry on January 31, 2010, 02:35:17 PM
Sounds good... powered by an electric type pokemon ;)

Actually, it would be powered by the sun. Note how i said Solar powered.

Oops. Yes, I missed that detail. In fact, I was thinking more about the other transport like trains, or cable transport.


About the HM Fly, why don't we make the whole PU world in separate 'zones' like for example, say there are 4 zones. Within each zone, you can fly in each town and village (given they have a pokemon center) and to travel from zone to another, you cannot use fly, but the plane, or ship, or any other mode of transport.

It'll be like in FR/LG, where you need the speed boats to travel from the main land to the sevii islands, or in HG/SS where you can fly only up to the indigo plateau (the middle) then to Kanto or Johto and not from Kanto to Johto directly and vice versa.

Hmm, just a thought, but perhaps you will only be able to use the HM Fly to fly between the main cities of different islands (after you have visited them)? And on the island you use bike, shoes etc. to get around?

About FLY, might be a nice idea you can only fly between big city's so you still have to walk to reach certain towns and city's.

Yes, that's a nice idea. Although, I think it shouldn't be possible to FLY overseas. It's a big distance and it would take away the concept of boats and air planes to travel between islands.

Exactly!
Title: Re: The BIG transportation topic (bikes, skateboards, etc..)
Post by: Phosphorous on January 31, 2010, 03:35:08 PM
I realize someone asked about riding a pokemon earlier and though it would be fun its not realistic because of limitations and such. That got me thinking possibly later when tournaments and special events get figured out maybe a prize like a mechanical rapidash where it looks like a rapidash but its an item. Now for obvious reasons there should be a poll to maybe choose 3 or for 4 types of mechanical pokemon and keep them as extremely rare prizes. I like the stamina concept and I hope to hear more details on it.


Yeah I'm kind of liking this idea. A mechanical pokemon you win in a pretty tough contest; that doesn't run out of stamina, but here are the restrictions and positives on it.

Restriction 1. You can only use it in the region you won it from.
R2. It's not trade-able or sell-able.
R3. Must have a certain player lvl to ride.
R4. Must have the best mode of land transportation before it.
(example: So if you want to get a skateboard, you need to have running shoes first.)

Positive 1. Faster than all the other modes of transportation.
P2. It's rare so only like 1 in 20 people would have it.
p3. Stamina doesn't run out.

So there would be like 4 different kinds of riding mechanical pokemon, and you could even make a poll about that later to determine it. and if you ever won the contest again, and happened to have the same mechanical pokemon you already had won, you can trade it in for  a different one.
Title: Re: The BIG transportation topic (bikes, skateboards, etc..)
Post by: Dracoules on January 31, 2010, 08:12:23 PM
A scooter would be so freakin' righteous.
Title: Re: The BIG transportation topic (bikes, skateboards, etc..)
Post by: The Fireball Kid on January 31, 2010, 09:47:42 PM
I realize someone asked about riding a pokemon earlier and though it would be fun its not realistic because of limitations and such. That got me thinking possibly later when tournaments and special events get figured out maybe a prize like a mechanical rapidash where it looks like a rapidash but its an item. Now for obvious reasons there should be a poll to maybe choose 3 or for 4 types of mechanical pokemon and keep them as extremely rare prizes. I like the stamina concept and I hope to hear more details on it.


Yeah I'm kind of liking this idea. A mechanical pokemon you win in a pretty tough contest; that doesn't run out of stamina, but here are the restrictions and positives on it.

Restriction 1. You can only use it in the region you won it from.
R2. It's not trade-able or sell-able.
R3. Must have a certain player lvl to ride.
R4. Must have the best mode of land transportation before it.
(example: So if you want to get a skateboard, you need to have running shoes first.)

Positive 1. Faster than all the other modes of transportation.
P2. It's rare so only like 1 in 20 people would have it.
p3. Stamina doesn't run out.

So there would be like 4 different kinds of riding mechanical pokemon, and you could even make a poll about that later to determine it. and if you ever won the contest again, and happened to have the same mechanical pokemon you already had won, you can trade it in for  a different one.

+1

I'm likin that idea for a prize. But in time everyone is going to have one. Maybe just have the pokemon ride until the next same tournament comes up?

So basically your borrowin it. And to show everyone that your the champion of that tournament and if you want to ride it, you'll have to win that tournament. This could possibly be for every major tournament?
Title: Re: The BIG transportation topic (bikes, skateboards, etc..)
Post by: Draagn on February 01, 2010, 03:06:32 PM
I dont like the borrowing it idea because say you didnt know about the new tournament and you riding along your in the middle of nowhere and it vanishes that would suck you'd have to walk a really long way..not a well thought out plan.   
Title: Re: The BIG transportation topic (bikes, skateboards, etc..)
Post by: ghostman50 on February 01, 2010, 06:48:19 PM
I dont know if I would want random means of transportation like skateboards and scooters.

Im content with the old fashioned walking and ocassional bike usage. (and of course ship/boat and Train)

 Having all of these "vehicles" (like the solar powered car) just seems too congesting.

When i think of a MMoRPG i think of socializing and constant interaction between players.

If everyone is going 20 KpH on their bikes or 70KpH in their cars, i doubt anyone would really enjoy themselves (at least i think so anyway)

The way this thread looks as though the PU team is really considering skateboards, scooters, and cars and "mechanical rapidashes????? (WTF?) so I would like to suggest having the transportation system simlar to Counterstrike or games like S4 where there is a certain amount of time you can use a certain item.

Like when you buy your bike, skateboard, etc; the player would have to by the Bike for a certain amount of time as well. (eg. 30 hours)

And give the player the option to add time by taking it to the skateboard/bicycle/"mechanical rapidash"  (seriously?) shop mechanic


Edited:


Implementing something like this would reduce the clutter in the small towns. Players would actually have to manage their vehicle usage.

And the idea of buying a vehicle one time and using it an unlimited number of times sound cheesy and way too easy.
Title: Re: The BIG transportation topic (bikes, skateboards, etc..)
Post by: Jerry on February 01, 2010, 07:00:30 PM
Good point ghostman... I haven't thought about it the least. I don't think I'll like having cars after all. Keeping the 'traditional ones' will be largely sufficient.

Also, I find that the speed of the bicycle is good as it is. Maybe include two gears like in DPPt, or two different types of bikes: acro and mach for two different options.

In contrast, I won't like too much the idea that I'm going on my bike, the suddenly it disappears and the next 'shop mechanic' is miles away. I would prefer it being permanent, or at least have some gauge with it. When it is red for example, meaning that the tyres are flat, or some other mechanism has broken, you still have some time before it falls into pieces. Repairing a bike with red gauge would cost some money, whilst repairing the whole thing would be much more expensive.
Title: Re: The BIG transportation topic (bikes, skateboards, etc..)
Post by: Mr_Dark on February 01, 2010, 07:09:27 PM
The way this thread looks as though the PU team is really considering skateboards, scooters, and cars and "mechanical rapidashes????? (WTF?) so I would like to suggest having the transportation system simlar to Counterstrike or games like S4 where there is a certain amount of time you can use a certain item.
Wrong, we're not considering skateboards, scooter, cars and a mechanical bull-ride. If it was totally up to me you'd be walking most of the time with an occasional use of a bike.
Title: Re: The BIG transportation topic (bikes, skateboards, etc..)
Post by: ghostman50 on February 01, 2010, 07:30:01 PM
The way this thread looks as though the PU team is really considering skateboards, scooters, and cars and "mechanical rapidashes????? (WTF?) so I would like to suggest having the transportation system simlar to Counterstrike or games like S4 where there is a certain amount of time you can use a certain item.
Wrong, we're not considering skateboards, scooter, cars and a mechanical bull-ride. If it was totally up to me you'd be walking most of the time with an occasional use of a bike.

WOuld there be a limit to how often the bike is used? or will it be similar to how the bikes are used in the Handhelds?
Title: Re: The BIG transportation topic (bikes, skateboards, etc..)
Post by: Mr_Dark on February 01, 2010, 08:25:08 PM
If you check a few posts back you'll read that if we implement bikes and such there will be a stamina bar so can't use it unlimited.
Title: Re: The BIG transportation topic (bikes, skateboards, etc..)
Post by: Declan_23 on February 01, 2010, 08:36:55 PM
Just another thought about the HM fly, perhaps you could only fly a small distance at first and there is a cool-down to use it again. As your player level becomes greater, you can fly longer distances/have a shorter cool-down period.
Title: Re: The BIG transportation topic (bikes, skateboards, etc..)
Post by: Impwadman on February 01, 2010, 09:29:10 PM
Just another thought about the HM fly, perhaps you could only fly a small distance at first and there is a cool-down to use it again. As your player level becomes greater, you can fly longer distances/have a shorter cool-down period.

Yes I like this idea. It makes more sense then to be able to fly wherever you want. Having no cool-down period takes away the purpose of having a bike or other transportation.
Title: Re: The BIG transportation topic (bikes, skateboards, etc..)
Post by: Chaoseth on February 01, 2010, 09:40:42 PM
"It makes more sense then to be able to fly wherever you want."

That is considering they add flying in game..it is possible you will have to walk/bike to get to other towns. v

Mr_Dark: If it was totally up to me you'd be walking most of the time with an occasional use of a bike.
Title: Re: The BIG transportation topic (bikes, skateboards, etc..)
Post by: Urmel on February 01, 2010, 10:41:42 PM
There will be no flying in the game.
Title: Re: The BIG transportation topic (bikes, skateboards, etc..)
Post by: ghostman50 on February 02, 2010, 01:13:19 AM
This may be off subject but it kind of has to do with transportation (teleportation :P)

Ive never caught an abra, ever in mi life, but mi brother swears to me that you can use abra to teleport to all of the big cities in Crystal.

Considering that Urmel shot down any plans to implement fly, i think that its safe to say that teleporting would not be implement as well.

But my question is, does Abra really teleport players from town to town?

Ive found sites that support this claim and some that doesnt really say for sure.



Oh... and here's a random proposal, After doing a psychic-related quest (Its all on you Spirit), One of the rewards could be that players could attain 5 teleports to the closest Poke' center.


(That would be an awesome reward. I'd take that over 5 berries any day)

Im just throwing it out there.

Title: Re: The BIG transportation topic (bikes, skateboards, etc..)
Post by: Mr_Dark on February 02, 2010, 02:05:08 AM
As far as I know the teleport move will only teleport you to the latest PokeCenter where you've been.
Title: Re: The BIG transportation topic (bikes, skateboards, etc..)
Post by: Phosphorous on February 02, 2010, 02:51:35 AM
yeah I was never one for the whole car idea, or anything too fast.

But I guess it's safe to say there WILL be running shoes and types of bikes.
Although I still think it'd be cool to have something else that hasn't been in the actual games.

like a jet pack. (lol im jking :P)

no but really. Something else lol
Title: Re: The BIG transportation topic (bikes, skateboards, etc..)
Post by: recneps on February 03, 2010, 06:02:38 AM
yeah, i dont think you should be able to drive a car, but maybe have a taxi system set up
Title: Re: The BIG transportation topic (bikes, skateboards, etc..)
Post by: Chaoseth on February 03, 2010, 07:07:51 AM
In the anime and hand-held games transportation is mainly through walking, bikes, trains, or boats. If a device other than walking/biking is implemented boats and a train would make the most sense.
Title: Re: The BIG transportation topic (bikes, skateboards, etc..)
Post by: spirit on February 03, 2010, 08:44:48 AM

Oh... and here's a random proposal, After doing a psychic-related quest (Its all on you Spirit), One of the rewards could be that players could attain 5 teleports to the closest Poke' center.




this isn't really all up to me, it is more important for the head staff to decide on something like this, i can just write a quest where this is a reward.... but the reward itself for the ability to do this must be decided on by other people. however, if you ask me, while im not entirely for or against the whole fly ability, i do think that there should be some form of teleportation method implemented. peharps, when you successfully complete some missions for NPC's in pokemon centers (very few pokemon centers would have this, like, 3) you could speak with them and their abra's would teleport you between them.....

.....but probably not
Title: Re: The BIG transportation topic (bikes, skateboards, etc..)
Post by: Alais on February 03, 2010, 08:23:24 PM
Some kind of daily-use item for transporting yourself back to your house would be nice. And no, WoW isn't the only game to have such an item. It would be nice if pokemon with teleport could cast it on the entire party (of players, not pokemon), with a count-down so anyone who doesn't want to be teleported can quit the party.
Title: Re: The BIG transportation topic (bikes, skateboards, etc..)
Post by: Skilganon on February 22, 2010, 12:13:48 AM
Maybe would it be possible to implement a "hearthstone" system into the game, like its and item/pokemon/ability that teleports you/flys you/(insert other form of fast/instant transport here) you, to maybe like one specific location per "island/region" such as the "main city" or your last pokecenter used, and that item/pokemon/ability is given like a 30 or 60 min cooldown or even more, also could make it so it cant be used while in caves and areas like that, i've always found systems like that to be very handy but not OP ya know.
Title: Re: The BIG transportation topic (bikes, skateboards, etc..)
Post by: Mr_Dark on February 22, 2010, 01:16:50 PM
I'm not really a big fan of fly (for our game) since it's going to be an adventure game. So if you can fly everywhere you're missing out on the real adventure and you'll miss nice quests and stuff.

IF we would implement fly, I think it can only be used on the isle where you are so you can't fly from isle 1 to isle 2.

Teleport will only send you to the latest PokéCenter. If that PC is NOT on the current island you'll be send to the nearest one.
Title: Re: The BIG transportation topic (bikes, skateboards, etc..)
Post by: Skilganon on February 22, 2010, 06:23:40 PM
Yea something like that, where your restricted to a small amount of places it can take you (emergancy reasons) and with a cooldown so that people arent flying all over the place all the time. No cross island travel and only allowed to go to the "main city" for the island your on, or only the latest pokecenter you have visited, its a handy feature for the sake of emergancies but the CD would make it so you cant do it constanly, or even have the cd so that it can be used once per game day, i read somewhere that the days in game will be 4 game days to 1 real day.
Title: Re: The BIG transportation topic (bikes, skateboards, etc..)
Post by: Mr_Dark on February 22, 2010, 07:04:18 PM
We don't have thought of any specific day/time system. All I can tell for now that in-game time is not real-life time
Title: Re: The BIG transportation topic (bikes, skateboards, etc..)
Post by: zachattackary on February 23, 2010, 07:38:53 AM
I know boats have been implemented in games before... but how about a luxury cruise ship with a pokemart, pokemon center and possibly other stores and rooms... I believe this would be innovative.
Title: Re: The BIG transportation topic (bikes, skateboards, etc..)
Post by: Mr_Dark on February 23, 2010, 03:31:44 PM
I know boats have been implemented in games before... but how about a luxury cruise ship with a pokemart, pokemon center and possibly other stores and rooms... I believe this would be innovative.

Yes, we're already planning to implement such a ship. :)
Title: Re: The BIG transportation topic (bikes, skateboards, etc..)
Post by: ollie on March 08, 2010, 11:29:20 PM
I think that when you reach a high level ther should be a way of travelling between cities instantly without the use of a move like fly. In my opinion these moves are of little use in a battle situation and use up space which could be used for a more powerful move. If creating a method like this is not possible would it be possible to increase the power of certain HM moves?
Title: Re: The BIG transportation topic (bikes, skateboards, etc..)
Post by: Ataeru on March 09, 2010, 03:43:54 AM
how about an overpass or bike/transportation trail between towns, where it would be over or around the wild pokemon and CPU traners.

with it, there would not be any traffic between people going through the paths looking for pokemon or finishing quests and those who want to get to the next town with out any obstacles or paths getting in the way.
Title: Re: The BIG transportation topic (bikes, skateboards, etc..)
Post by: Minsi on March 09, 2010, 07:30:56 AM
I'm sure these have been mentioned, but I may have unmentioned ideas. Lets just see...

* Trolleys
* Cable cars
* Pokemon [Naturally...]
* Trains
* Ships
* Planes
* Blimps
* Hot air balloons
* Submarines
* Makeshift wings?
* Bicycle
* Scooter
* Stilts and pogo sticks :D Hurray for randomness!
* Roller blades / ice skates
* Giant hamster balls ;]
* Four wheelers
* Dirt bikes
* Motorcycles
* Carriages
* Snow mobiles
* Jet skis
* Sleds [Pokemon powered? I like this one the best.]
* Pokemon drawn wagons


Thats all I can think of for now.
Title: Re: The BIG transportation topic (bikes, skateboards, etc..)
Post by: Taze on March 16, 2010, 09:06:56 PM
Just by browsing through this, i didn't see anything on this so correct me if im wrong.

Bikes were used in ruby/sapphire to get to different areas, whether it be a secret base or deeper into the safari zone.  I would like to see bikes used for that purpose.  As so other ways of transportation i think it would be could but not necessary to use that.  There is only so much you can do before it becomes un-necessary and only for looks. 

Will you have running shoes also?
Title: Re: The BIG transportation topic (bikes, skateboards, etc..)
Post by: baralai15 on March 16, 2010, 10:31:50 PM
Interesting list lol I would love to use a hamsterball down route 117 lol (random route number) or pogo from one town to another haha
Title: Re: The BIG transportation topic (bikes, skateboards, etc..)
Post by: Jerry on March 17, 2010, 04:29:19 PM
I just thought of... submarine!!! :P
Title: Re: The BIG transportation topic (bikes, skateboards, etc..)
Post by: Phosphorous on March 17, 2010, 08:25:58 PM
Even though this game will and is attracting the younger audience, if you guys go too unrealistic (hamster balls) then that might discourage the older crowd to want to play just because they might not take PU that serious.

If it ever where implemented, then it probably wouldn't be till there where enough players playing to actually spread the word of how much of a good game it really is, and that the whole concept is all just in innocent humor.
Title: Re: The BIG transportation topic (bikes, skateboards, etc..)
Post by: PokeRikku on March 18, 2010, 08:19:00 PM
What about Unicycles?? Everyone just hates on unicycles. they should really be in this game xD
Title: Re: The BIG transportation topic (bikes, skateboards, etc..)
Post by: Sch3rox on March 18, 2010, 09:54:45 PM
*planes/ Do you see that wingullplane on the Screenshot...
very cool ideaa i hope there are more surprise like this.
Title: Re: The BIG transportation topic (bikes, skateboards, etc..)
Post by: chaosdestroyer on March 23, 2010, 07:46:58 PM
i agree with Phosphorous this game is going to be fun and will have loads of players but going to far into transportation would unapealing to older crowds.
Title: Re: The BIG transportation topic (bikes, skateboards, etc..)
Post by: spirit on March 23, 2010, 07:54:15 PM
i agree with Phosphorous this game is going to be fun and will have loads of players but going to far into transportation would unapealing to older crowds.

In other words, this is a pokemon game, not FLYFF
Title: Re: The BIG transportation topic (bikes, skateboards, etc..)
Post by: Amphi on March 23, 2010, 08:14:02 PM
personally I'd say it wold be best to have basic modes of transportation, such as, bike(possible acro and mach), maybe a skateboard, roller blades(ice skates for icy areas), maybe a snow mobile for snow cover areas but anything more might just be over kill, but again just my two cents :)
Title: Re: The BIG transportation topic (bikes, skateboards, etc..)
Post by: spirit on March 23, 2010, 08:15:36 PM
personally I'd say it wold be best to have basic modes of transportation, such as, bike(possible acro and mach), maybe a skateboard, roller blades(ice skates for icy areas), maybe a snow mobile for snow cover areas but anything more might just be over kill, but again just my two cents :)

I would define those as the primary modes of transportation.
There should also be secondary modes: planes, trains, and automobiles, large boats.

But you're right, much more, is too much more.
Title: Re: The BIG transportation topic (bikes, skateboards, etc..)
Post by: Amphi on March 23, 2010, 08:26:27 PM
personally I'd say it wold be best to have basic modes of transportation, such as, bike(possible acro and mach), maybe a skateboard, roller blades(ice skates for icy areas), maybe a snow mobile for snow cover areas but anything more might just be over kill, but again just my two cents :)

I would define those as the primary modes of transportation.
There should also be secondary modes: planes, trains, and automobiles, large boats.

But you're right, much more, is too much more.
yea I completely forgot about secondary modes of transportation, but anyway secondary transportation shouldn't be player controlled maybe, it should be a path finding type AI thing where it will take you to where you ask it to bring you, like rent a car, or buying a plane ticket
Title: Re: The BIG transportation topic (bikes, skateboards, etc..)
Post by: darion101 on March 23, 2010, 08:48:43 PM
personally I'd say it wold be best to have basic modes of transportation, such as, bike(possible acro and mach), maybe a skateboard, roller blades(ice skates for icy areas), maybe a snow mobile for snow cover areas but anything more might just be over kill, but again just my two cents :)

I would define those as the primary modes of transportation.
There should also be secondary modes: planes, trains, and automobiles, large boats.

But you're right, much more, is too much more.
yea I completely forgot about secondary modes of transportation, but anyway secondary transportation shouldn't be player controlled maybe, it should be a path finding type AI thing where it will take you to where you ask it to bring you, like rent a car, or buying a plane ticket





If a secondary transportation was implemented, I agree with Amphy that it should be a set path that it travels. Just say you can go to a port and take a ship to 3 other ports, and you buy whichever ticket you want to whatever city you are headed to.
Title: Re: The BIG transportation topic (bikes, skateboards, etc..)
Post by: Amphi on March 24, 2010, 11:04:13 PM
i know it might be annoying but it would be cool to see your self in a plane flying over this region ^ ^
Title: Re: The BIG transportation topic (bikes, skateboards, etc..)
Post by: baralai15 on March 25, 2010, 12:30:51 AM
I'm not really a big fan of fly (for our game) since it's going to be an adventure game. So if you can fly everywhere you're missing out on the real adventure and you'll miss nice quests and stuff.

IF we would implement fly, I think it can only be used on the isle where you are so you can't fly from isle 1 to isle 2.

Teleport will only send you to the latest PokéCenter. If that PC is NOT on the current island you'll be send to the nearest one.

Your the creator its your ultimate decision. Flying would be nice and everything but yea you would miss out on a lot of things and since you put so much work and detail into making your maps why just click a button to skip all the work lol. Pointless if you wanna put it that way.
Title: Re: The BIG transportation topic (bikes, skateboards, etc..)
Post by: kiwipeeps on March 27, 2010, 10:28:11 PM
I'm not sure if this has been asked but regarding the transit system, will this be a real time system? As in will there be a train timetable, planes/boats leaving at certain times?

OR will it be a case that you just go to the station, buy a ticket for a certain cost, then you travel immediately.

In either case, will some amount of playing time be lost to travelling? And will this depend on distance?
Title: Re: The BIG transportation topic (bikes, skateboards, etc..)
Post by: Amphi on March 27, 2010, 10:30:33 PM
I'm not sure if this has been asked but regarding the transit system, will this be a real time system? As in will there be a train timetable, planes/boats leaving at certain times?

OR will it be a case that you just go to the station, buy a ticket for a certain cost, then you travel immediately.

In either case, will some amount of playing time be lost to travelling? And will this depend on distance?
oh wow i never thought of that good question ^ ^
Title: Re: The BIG transportation topic (bikes, skateboards, etc..)
Post by: omegaz88 on March 27, 2010, 10:38:12 PM
You should a full time system for real time play and sometimes the amount of time it takes to get somewhere due to the length of travel can get annoying.
Title: Re: The BIG transportation topic (bikes, skateboards, etc..)
Post by: kiwipeeps on March 27, 2010, 11:15:45 PM
   
I'm not sure if this has been asked but regarding the transit system, will this be a real time system? As in will there be a train timetable, planes/boats leaving at certain times?

OR will it be a case that you just go to the station, buy a ticket for a certain cost, then you travel immediately.

In either case, will some amount of playing time be lost to travelling? And will this depend on distance?

Sorry, another question: Supposing it is a real time system, and some time is lost to travelling, then, will the modes of transport be explorable areas. I noticed this commend from Mr Dark:

I know boats have been implemented in games before... but how about a luxury cruise ship with a pokemart, pokemon center and possibly other stores and rooms... I believe this would be innovative.

Yes, we're already planning to implement such a ship. :)

So is this a one off or will all public transport be like this?

(Sorry a lot of questions, on a subject some might consider boring, but I just wanted an idea on how slick it will be?)
Title: Re: The BIG transportation topic (bikes, skateboards, etc..)
Post by: Stranger on March 28, 2010, 05:22:02 PM
and now when we're in a questioning mood... if there secondary transportation that runs a certain time... will everyone be able to buy a ticket or will it only be a certain amount of train tickets available? :P
As most have said on this subject though, I'm all for walking. Too many means of transportations restricts the interaction and adventure capability of the players. I don't want everyone jumping around on pogo sticks when I'm trying to talk to someone or get someone to fight with! :O
Title: Re: The BIG transportation topic (bikes, skateboards, etc..)
Post by: Pika on March 30, 2010, 08:57:07 PM
Okay, I'm just going to put some Ideas out there and let you read them:

-What if trains/subways/ships/etc. left at small intervals like 5 minutes. It takes a minute or 2 to reach the destined city. However, that city must be relatively close. This gives riders time to communicate but not so much that it gets annoying. The riders may then chose to stay on or get off. Or board a different transportation system going to another city.

-Fly should only be able to take you so far before your pokemon gets tired. It should have a cool-down time of approx 5 min. as well. This should get rid of instant, across the world travel, and add an aspect of realism.

-You should be able to buy transportation vehicles such as bikes, roller blades, and skateboards. They should also be different speeds and prices as was discussed in previous posts.
The order of price and speed should be like this:
-Running shoes
-Roller blades
-Scooter
-Bike
-?Moped?-super expen$ive

Maybe game creators can get little cars ;D
heh-heh, maybe not...
THANKS FOR AT LEAST READING!!
Title: Re: The BIG transportation topic (bikes, skateboards, etc..)
Post by: Mr Pokemon on March 31, 2010, 11:04:49 AM
Okay, I'm just going to put some Ideas out there and let you read them:

-What if trains/subways/ships/etc. left at small intervals like 5 minutes. It takes a minute or 2 to reach the destined city. However, that city must be relatively close. This gives riders time to communicate but not so much that it gets annoying. The riders may then chose to stay on or get off. Or board a different transportation system going to another city.

-Fly should only be able to take you so far before your pokemon gets tired. It should have a cool-down time of approx 5 min. as well. This should get rid of instant, across the world travel, and add an aspect of realism.

-You should be able to buy transportation vehicles such as bikes, roller blades, and skateboards. They should also be different speeds and prices as was discussed in previous posts.
The order of price and speed should be like this:
-Running shoes
-Roller blades
-Scooter
-Bike
-?Moped?-super expen$ive

Maybe game creators can get little cars ;D
heh-heh, maybe not...
THANKS FOR AT LEAST READING!!
All posts made by Pika are actually me. I decided to change my name because, well, I didn't like it :P. Also Mr Pokemon is an awesome name!
Title: Re: The BIG transportation topic (bikes, skateboards, etc..)
Post by: spirit on March 31, 2010, 11:54:59 AM
All posts made by Pika are actually me. I decided to change my name because, well, I didn't like it :P. Also Mr Pokemon is an awesome name!


It would be preferred if you only had one account.
Oh, and you could have just told us you wanted to change your name, instead of making a new account.
Title: Re: The BIG transportation topic (bikes, skateboards, etc..)
Post by: Mr Pokemon on March 31, 2010, 11:59:41 AM
I'm sorry, I won't do it again. It completely slipped my mind that I could have asked a crew member...
Title: Re: The BIG transportation topic (bikes, skateboards, etc..)
Post by: Amphi on March 31, 2010, 04:08:06 PM
careful the topic troll might attack, back on topic ^ ^
Title: Re: The BIG transportation topic (bikes, skateboards, etc..)
Post by: Frenchfry on April 02, 2010, 07:11:31 PM
Alrighty, I have a few ideas, also something regarding the FLY HM.
While flyshould have the cooldown, it, like all the other transportation, should have a stamina BAR, meaning that depending on the size and level of the pokemon, it should be able to fly farther, and more often (i.e. a level one hunded Charizard could take you around the world and back and be ready to fly again in like two minutes, while a level five pidgey would takke ten minutes of recharge to takeyou two cities away).

I also think that the mechancal pokemon or anything mechanical should have a seperate stamina bar from everything else, because it doesn't exaust a person to sit on a robot for half an hour.

and here's another idea: A carriage pulled by rapidash =D.

Also, some vehicles could have events attached to them, like with my carriage idea, there could be some collesium-like building where people had fights while on a carriage.
Title: Re: The BIG transportation topic (bikes, skateboards, etc..)
Post by: Mr Pokemon on April 02, 2010, 07:17:04 PM
(i.e. a level one hunded Charizard could take you around the world and back and be ready to fly again in like two minutes, while a level five pidgey would takke ten minutes of recharge to takeyou two cities away).

I agree with that, but, It would take forever for the PU team to come up with the distance and cooldown rates for every Pokemon that can learn fly. I also think that even though Charizard at level 100 should be able to take you a long way, it shouldn't be that far.
Title: Re: The BIG transportation topic (bikes, skateboards, etc..)
Post by: Duke on April 03, 2010, 06:56:07 AM
Okay, I'm just going to put some Ideas out there and let you read them:

-What if trains/subways/ships/etc. left at small intervals like 5 minutes. It takes a minute or 2 to reach the destined city. However, that city must be relatively close. This gives riders time to communicate but not so much that it gets annoying. The riders may then chose to stay on or get off. Or board a different transportation system going to another city.

-Fly should only be able to take you so far before your pokemon gets tired. It should have a cool-down time of approx 5 min. as well. This should get rid of instant, across the world travel, and add an aspect of realism.

-You should be able to buy transportation vehicles such as bikes, roller blades, and skateboards. They should also be different speeds and prices as was discussed in previous posts.
The order of price and speed should be like this:
-Running shoes
-Roller blades
-Scooter
-Bike
-?Moped?-super expen$ive

Maybe game creators can get little cars ;D
heh-heh, maybe not...
THANKS FOR AT LEAST READING!!
Oooo i just had a (possibly) great idea!
pokemon themed gokarts ingame!  Such as pikachu or mario!
Title: Re: The BIG transportation topic (bikes, skateboards, etc..)
Post by: Mr Pokemon on April 03, 2010, 11:17:17 AM
Oooo i just had a (possibly) great idea!
pokemon themed gokarts ingame!  Such as pikachu or mario!

That would work better as a minigame.
By the way, Mario isn't a Pokemon  :P
Title: Re: Bikes are overrated
Post by: Sephiroth on April 05, 2010, 09:09:38 PM
i think that you should be able to ride pokemon like rapidash as a form of transportation

Pretty much this. Instead of bikes, you can ride a pokemon.
Title: Re: The BIG transportation topic (bikes, skateboards, etc..)
Post by: Mr Pokemon on April 06, 2010, 12:42:55 AM
The problem with that is, too many sprites!
If you had to have sprites for every single type of trainer riding every pokemon, it would be a bit much...
Title: Re: The BIG transportation topic (bikes, skateboards, etc..)
Post by: spirit on April 06, 2010, 12:43:37 AM
unless you make them...teehee....invisible
Title: Re: The BIG transportation topic (bikes, skateboards, etc..)
Post by: Kuhns on April 06, 2010, 01:07:01 AM
(http://i766.photobucket.com/albums/xx303/Lazy_FatCat/Untitled-1-1.png)
Title: Re: The BIG transportation topic (bikes, skateboards, etc..)
Post by: Mr Pokemon on April 06, 2010, 01:13:38 AM
lol, that's a funny pic, even though it was probably drawn in 2 minutes  :)
Title: Re: The BIG transportation topic (bikes, skateboards, etc..)
Post by: Kuhns on April 06, 2010, 01:35:05 AM
-Sigh- And with a mouse. :P
Title: Re: Bikes are overrated
Post by: sym on April 06, 2010, 03:13:46 AM
i think that you should be able to ride pokemon like rapidash as a form of transportation

Pretty much this. Instead of bikes, you can ride a pokemon.

i agree that riding pokemon would be good but not instead of bikes because some pokemon will be unrideable (ditto or some ghost types ect).
Title: Re: The BIG transportation topic (bikes, skateboards, etc..)
Post by: Sch3rox on April 06, 2010, 03:23:41 AM
oh man I imagined how it is to ride a Caterpie..
I must tell you that's not fair that poor Caterpie :(
Title: Re: The BIG transportation topic (bikes, skateboards, etc..)
Post by: Jerry on April 06, 2010, 10:15:27 AM
Or make it like in Pokemon Ranger. Only some pokemon can be ridden. Therefore, you get only about a dozen pokemon, making about 144 sprites.
Title: Re: The BIG transportation topic (bikes, skateboards, etc..)
Post by: Amphi on April 06, 2010, 03:55:18 PM
while i am sort of against riding pokemon it would be cool to ride an Arcanine
Title: Re: The BIG transportation topic (bikes, skateboards, etc..)
Post by: ghostman50 on April 06, 2010, 04:37:53 PM
lol, if following poke' sprites are considered time consuming.

I'd hate it for the person that'd have to make the riding poke' sprites
Title: Re: The BIG transportation topic (bikes, skateboards, etc..)
Post by: Jerry on April 06, 2010, 04:41:57 PM
lol, if following poke' sprites are considered time consuming.

I'd hate it for the person that'd have to make the riding poke' sprites

Oh, I almost forgot! Yes, you're right, there are much more than 144... since there will be character customisation, there will be much more :o
Title: Re: The BIG transportation topic (bikes, skateboards, etc..)
Post by: Amphi on April 06, 2010, 10:08:51 PM
lol, if following poke' sprites are considered time consuming.

I'd hate it for the person that'd have to make the riding poke' sprites
well currently i dont think riding pokemon would ever be worth it but thas just my opinion ^ ^ and as for following pokemon sprites, im trying to make those on my own, just for fun of course
Title: Re: Bikes are overrated
Post by: Duke on April 11, 2010, 01:27:06 PM
i think that you should be able to ride pokemon like rapidash as a form of transportation

Pretty much this. Instead of bikes, you can ride a pokemon.

i agree that riding pokemon would be good but not instead of bikes because some pokemon will be unrideable (ditto or some ghost types ect).
Ditto'd just transform into a dodge viper!
Title: Re: The BIG transportation topic (bikes, skateboards, etc..)
Post by: Mr Pokemon on April 11, 2010, 01:30:49 PM
Maybe only a few Pokemon are rideable, like Ponyta, Rapidash, Arcanine, etc.
However, the Pokemon don't go much faster than bikes and get tired. They are mainly for show.
Title: Re: The BIG transportation topic (bikes, skateboards, etc..)
Post by: Raikt on April 18, 2010, 01:17:36 AM
I read up to page 5; so, if this has been mentioned, forgive me.

However, the idea I had for transportation borrows from a few other games. I'm not saying that it should be a direct replica, but if it works, it works, you know? For flying, I do agree that it would detract from the overall game experience. Being able to fly between towns on the fly would make the game short, even with an abundance of content. So, instead, why not move along the lines of World of Warcraft and make it so that flying can happen between preset points. You would have to meet up with whoever was stationed at both of those points and pay to fly between them. That way, you would still have to travel everywhere on foot. It would just be more convenient for players who have already explored the land. The price would keep it from being abused, as well.
Title: Re: The BIG transportation topic (bikes, skateboards, etc..)
Post by: spirit on April 18, 2010, 09:17:22 AM
I read up to page 5; so, if this has been mentioned, forgive me.

However, the idea I had for transportation borrows from a few other games. I'm not saying that it should be a direct replica, but if it works, it works, you know? For flying, I do agree that it would detract from the overall game experience. Being able to fly between towns on the fly would make the game short, even with an abundance of content. So, instead, why not move along the lines of World of Warcraft and make it so that flying can happen between preset points. You would have to meet up with whoever was stationed at both of those points and pay to fly between them. That way, you would still have to travel everywhere on foot. It would just be more convenient for players who have already explored the land. The price would keep it from being abused, as well.

That's the idea, "something" like that.

We will have planes, trains, and automobiles
....and boats
 
Okay, I can't confirm any of those, but you get the idea.

Basically, as far as game play goes, they are very different, but when it comes to game code, transporting your character from one location to another, is all the same.
Title: Re: The BIG transportation topic (bikes, skateboards, etc..)
Post by: boyben10 on April 19, 2010, 02:17:49 AM
I read up to page 5; so, if this has been mentioned, forgive me.

However, the idea I had for transportation borrows from a few other games. I'm not saying that it should be a direct replica, but if it works, it works, you know? For flying, I do agree that it would detract from the overall game experience. Being able to fly between towns on the fly would make the game short, even with an abundance of content. So, instead, why not move along the lines of World of Warcraft and make it so that flying can happen between preset points. You would have to meet up with whoever was stationed at both of those points and pay to fly between them. That way, you would still have to travel everywhere on foot. It would just be more convenient for players who have already explored the land. The price would keep it from being abused, as well.

That's the idea, "something" like that.

We will have planes, trains, and automobiles
....and boats
 
Okay, I can't confirm any of those, but you get the idea.

Basically, as far as game play goes, they are very different, but when it comes to game code, transporting your character from one location to another, is all the same.

You can almost confirm planes, its in one of the pictures at the top of the site http://pokemon-universe.com/dump/ss_v2_1.png
Title: Re: The BIG transportation topic (bikes, skateboards, etc..)
Post by: partyprash on September 27, 2010, 01:22:44 AM
Skateboards is probably one of the Coolest ideas ive read on this site so far !!
that would be amazingness :)
could have sk8 parks and stuff :) maybe some minigames too