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Title: quest idea i had
Post by: himoo1 on April 25, 2011, 05:01:27 AM
I was thinking of something pretty cool and it goes like this...

You enter a cave and a trainer runs towards you asking you to catch its pokemon because it broke loose of its ball and his parents gave it to him and it has been in his family for a while...
You can either decide to be good or evil and catch it and keep it or catch it and give it back... if you give it back the reward will not be as good... but you will be able to feel like you did the right thing... the pokemon would be a steelix.. at level 47 (yes i know im specific haha)... the reward if given back would be a rare candy...

good idea? bad idea? suggestions?
let me know
Title: Re: quest idea i had
Post by: Silver on April 25, 2011, 05:03:49 AM
Play Bioshock recently?
Title: Re: quest idea i had
Post by: himoo1 on April 25, 2011, 05:08:38 AM
actually no i have never played that game... seriously...
Title: Re: quest idea i had
Post by: Silver on April 25, 2011, 05:09:44 AM
Now you have something to do :)
Title: Re: quest idea i had
Post by: himoo1 on April 25, 2011, 05:11:16 AM
Haha I guess so... is that kinda like the idea i had though? and i would have to borrow it from a friend... which friend should i pick? hmm i'll decide later
Title: Re: quest idea i had
Post by: Silver on April 25, 2011, 05:27:04 AM
Alot actually, at certain points of the game, you can take the morally wrong choice, and get a better reward, or take the morally right one, and get something worse.

Though I don't know how PU is doing with their Karma system, though I believe they said one is going to exist.
At the same time, the negative outweighs the posative very much. As most people hate rare candies.
Title: Re: quest idea i had
Post by: Bing on April 25, 2011, 05:42:27 AM
Alot actually, at certain points of the game, you can take the morally wrong choice, and get a better reward, or take the morally right one, and get something worse.

Though I don't know how PU is doing with their Karma system, though I believe they said one is going to exist.
At the same time, the negative outweighs the posative very much. As most people hate rare candies.

Actually since evs are not gonna be in PU, rare candies might actually be a good item.
Title: Re: quest idea i had
Post by: himoo1 on April 25, 2011, 05:44:54 AM
I know i did that because few would want to pick the rare candy but they want to be good so... i did that to see what they would do and wow that is kinda strange because i've only seen commercials for that game and they possibly could be now that you posted right before i did and i dont feel like erasing and re-saying something new
Title: Re: quest idea i had
Post by: Silver on April 25, 2011, 05:50:51 AM
That made 0 sense, want to try again?
Title: Re: quest idea i had
Post by: Wire on April 25, 2011, 09:30:37 AM
If it was caugth already wouldn't you just use the pokeball it was caught with before
Title: Re: quest idea i had
Post by: himoo1 on April 25, 2011, 01:22:20 PM
well i guess you could use the same pokeball... but i also meant it decided to leave like the snivy ash caught in one of the episodes in pokemon black and white and the reason the steelix left is unknown so you have the chance to find out why and get something in return for it by catching it
Title: Re: quest idea i had
Post by: Declan_23 on April 25, 2011, 01:26:55 PM
No offence, but you need to seriously develop your idea for it be considered as a 'quest'
If you strip it down basically what youn have here is: 'Go into a cave and catch a steelix'
Try and make it a little longer and complex.
Title: Re: quest idea i had
Post by: Jerry on April 25, 2011, 08:21:27 PM
And besides this... I get a feeling I saw a similar 'quest' last year... :-\

*looks back in 'archives'*

Well, it not that similar after all.

But, I think that this is way too simple to be called a quest. A lot, and I mean it, a lot more can be added to make it more interesting. In the quest, I personally like the 'what happens' more than the rewards.
Title: Re: quest idea i had
Post by: himoo1 on April 26, 2011, 02:59:12 AM
alright then will this make it any better? If you decide to give the pokemon back, the quescontinues because after a while you find out he was a pokemon theif and his plan of using a dark ball to capture  the steelix didn't work and the ball exploded and the steelix managed to get away, so when he saw you come in, he acted as if it was his lying to you trying to make you get it for him, when truly it was an older lady who he had tied up and put into a warehouse, because he was an evil person working for an unknown corporation. any better?
Title: Re: quest idea i had
Post by: TrainerX on April 26, 2011, 03:20:01 AM
I didn't really understand that post, but it's still too short. You need to add more than that. What happens after you find out that the guy is part of an evil corporation? What happens when you save the lady?
Title: Re: quest idea i had
Post by: Silver on April 26, 2011, 03:30:53 AM
I didn't really understand that post, but it's still too short. You need to add more than that. What happens after you find out that the guy is part of an evil corporation? What happens when you save the lady?

Be careful with questions like that.
Though I agree its too short, your other questions have a chance to not matter, though in this case they do, as he very specifically said level 47 steelix. Thats about midgame, so whatever 'group' there is, you would be very aware of them by now.

But lets just say, this is low level, you're new to Miryus and you do this quest, and the pokemon is, i dunno, a zubat or something.

Why, and how would you know that this person is part of an evil corporation?
And after saving this woman would constitute a reward would it not? And end everything, as your job is done and you have whatever you recieved?

If this was a low level quest, it would be allowed to be somewhat open ended, but because it HAS to be a LEVEL 47 STEELIX, alot more work has to be done.
Title: Re: quest idea i had
Post by: himoo1 on April 26, 2011, 03:34:53 AM
you can decide once again to be good or evil and give the pokemon to the lady and capture the guy and find out about his corporation (don't know what it should be called maybe Izigle?) to shut it down, or give it to the evil guy and have the woman move to a completely different region because you gave up her pokemon. The rewards for giving it to the lady is once again a longer quest and if you give it to the bad guy, you get a rare candy and a level 20 random non-legendary pokemon. When you figure out the headquarters of the corporation to shut it down you have to go through each trainer looking for a pass to go up for each floor (total of 5 floors) each level gets harder, once you reach the top you face the trainer who tried to steal the steelix, which if you lose you have to redo the whole building, if you win the corporation is shutdown, you gain pokemoney, ill let you know when i know how much the goods will be in the game, and you also get a level 25 pokemon of your choice of these three: Onix, Pikachu, or Machop. 
Thanks for all of the criticism it is helping me with this idea.
Title: Re: quest idea i had
Post by: Declan_23 on April 26, 2011, 05:00:15 PM
Okay, I like the extended version a lot better. However, making it longer doesn't make it more detailed. If you can take all the ideas you have now, and formulate them into one quest with details such as:
 - How do you find out the guy is evil?
 - How do you find out where the old lady is from?
 - Who gives you your reward?
etc.
Title: Re: quest idea i had
Post by: FireDarkGuy on April 26, 2011, 05:12:44 PM
I think you have a good imagination, but, your quest is having TOO MUCH ACTIONS. The quests needs to be simple and to evolve a pokemon at level 47 for a quest it's really hard. Why you don't try something easiest.
Title: Re: quest idea i had
Post by: Jerry on April 26, 2011, 07:02:00 PM
I think too it's getting better now, but having the pieces here and there doesn't help much. Okay, I'll try to merge it all...

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You enter a cave and a trainer runs towards you asking you to catch its pokemon because it broke loose of its ball that his parents gave him. It has been in his family for a while... [spoiler]'It' here refers to what exactly? ???[/spoiler]

You can either decide to be good or evil and catch it and keep it or catch it and give it back...

If you give it back the reward will not be as good but you will be able to feel like you did the right thing. The pokemon would be a steelix at level 47 (yes i know im specific haha). The quest then continues because after a while you find out he was a pokemon thief and his plan of using a dark ball to capture the steelix didn't work. The ball however somehow exploded and the steelix managed to get away. So when he saw you coming in, he acted as if it was his. He lied, trying to make you get it for him. He in fact tied up an older lady and that Steelix was hers. He locked her into a warehouse, because he was an evil person working for an unknown corporation.

You can decide once again to be good or evil and give the pokemon to the lady and capture the guy and find out about his corporation (don't know what it should be called maybe Izigle?) to shut it down. The rewards for giving it to the lady is once again a longer quest.

Or you decide to give Steelix to the evil guy and have the woman move to a completely different region because you gave up her pokemon. Here, you get a rare candy and a level 20 random non-legendary pokemon.

When you figure out the headquarters of the corporation to shut it down, you have to go through each trainer looking for a pass to go up for each floor (total of 5 floors) each level gets harder. Once you reach the top you face the trainer who tried to steal the Steelix and challenge him. If you lose you have to redo the whole building, but otherwise, the corporation is shutdown and you gain pokemoney.

I'll let you know when I know how much the goods will be in the game, and you also get a level 25 pokemon of your choice of these three: Onix, Pikachu, or Machop. [spoiler]I thought it was level 20? ???[/spoiler]

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Well, that's getting some shape. If you could now add the answers to Declan's questions, that'd be even better!
Title: Re: quest idea i had
Post by: TrainerX on April 27, 2011, 03:20:15 AM
I think you have a good imagination, but, your quest is having TOO MUCH ACTIONS. The quests needs to be simple and to evolve a pokemon at level 47 for a quest it's really hard. Why you don't try something easiest.
Wtf does "your quest is having TOO MUCH ACTIONS." mean? And you obviously don't understand quests. Go play an RPG like Oblivion. Quests aren't supposed to be simple and short, unless it's one of the first quests in the game, and quests are supposed to be interesting and detailed. Once you get further in the game, you want the quests to be harder, otherwise the game isn't challenging, which makes the game boring. So, this could be a quest later in the game. He never said anything about evolving the pokemon, so that part made no sense.
Title: Re: quest idea i had
Post by: Desbear on April 27, 2011, 10:00:02 PM
what trainerx said
Title: Re: quest idea i had
Post by: himoo1 on April 28, 2011, 02:11:12 AM
sorry wasnt able to poast for a bit but alright ill try to fix the blank spots real quick and answer questions
How do you know the guy is evil?
You are informed when you find the old lady who is locked up in a warehouse to find poke food for the bad guy, and when you go into the warehouse you look around and find her tied up in a back room, which is also where the food was stored.
How do you find out where the lady is from?
The lady tells you the whole story and she is from that town and everyone supports her and was telling you when you asked about her later on to conform that it was her pokemon and that it was stolen.
Who gives you your reward?
For the first reward- Evil Trainer if you give him the pokemon, or you if you keep the steelix
Second reward-You deciding on whether or not to give the pokemon to the lady or the guy and whichever one you pick you get the reward (the evil guy gets you the pokemon and rare candy)
Third reward- The old lady gives you the pokemon of those three choices and the pokemoney
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When he tells you it has been in his family for a while... after that he asks you a favor to go grab some pokefood in his warehouse not to far from the cave and to take the pokemon for protection. Once you enter you see an old lady who you untie and tells you her story of how it is hers and how she was abducted. She was told by the evil that the steelix would be needed for testing and that they needed it and she refused to give it up so they attempted to steal it and decided to lock her up in their form of prison which was a chair and rope with duct tape to tie her up.
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The lady thanks you and decides to reward you with one of the three smaller pokemon running around in her home which was once locked but now you can enter it and you get to choose either the pikachu, onix, or machop and also a reasonable amount of pokemoney when i find out how much that is.
Title: Re: quest idea i had
Post by: Jerry on April 28, 2011, 06:26:01 PM
sorry wasnt able to poast for a bit but alright ill try to fix the blank spots real quick and answer questions
How do you know the guy is evil?
You are informed when you find the old lady who is locked up in a warehouse to find poke food for the bad guy, and when you go into the warehouse you look around and find her tied up in a back room, which is also where the food was stored.

Wait... so the 'bad man' is in fact, himself showing you that he's bad? >.<

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How do you find out where the lady is from?
The lady tells you the whole story and she is from that town and everyone supports her and was telling you when you asked about her later on to conform that it was her pokemon and that it was stolen.

Okay for this part.

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Who gives you your reward?
For the first reward- Evil Trainer if you give him the pokemon, or you if you keep the steelix
Second reward-You deciding on whether or not to give the pokemon to the lady or the guy and whichever one you pick you get the reward (the evil guy gets you the pokemon and rare candy)
Third reward- The old lady gives you the pokemon of those three choices and the pokemoney

Wait wait wait. I'm not even sure if you made it explicit enough.

First reward:
- Good - you get nothing, but the quest goes on.
- Bad - you get a rare candy from the evil guy.

Second reward:
- Good - you get the pokemon + rare candy by old lady.
- Bad - you get the pokemon + rare candy by evil guy.

Third reward:
- Good - 1 of Pikachu/Machop/Onix + Money
- Bad - Nothing as the quest ended already.

Is that what you meant? That seems... ???

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When he tells you it has been in his family for a while... after that he asks you a favor to go grab some pokefood in his warehouse not to far from the cave and to take the pokemon for protection. Once you enter you see an old lady who you untie and tells you her story of how it is hers and how she was abducted. She was told by the evil that the steelix would be needed for testing and that they needed it and she refused to give it up so they attempted to steal it and decided to lock her up in their form of prison which was a chair and rope with duct tape to tie her up.

Um.. okay.

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The lady thanks you and decides to reward you with one of the three smaller pokemon running around in her home which was once locked but now you can enter it and you get to choose either the pikachu, onix, or machop and also a reasonable amount of pokemoney when i find out how much that is.

Okay, those two are clear, but the rewards are still not that clear.
Title: Re: quest idea i had
Post by: himoo1 on April 28, 2011, 10:55:29 PM
Kind of because that was an accident he didn't know he was sending you to the same room as the lady he put in there.

okay and now for the rewards it is...
first reward
good- quest continues
bad- rare candy from evil guy

second reward
good- quest goes on and a rare candy
bad- pokemon and rare candy from evil guy

third reward
good- pokecash and pokemon from the lady
bad- quest has already ended.

so kinda jerry
Title: Re: quest idea i had
Post by: Jerry on April 29, 2011, 07:16:36 PM
Okay, for the part where you find out about the old lady, you might do something else, off your idea.

eg.
- You hear a noise coming from the room adjacent, with a closed/locked door. To get in, you get around the building and enter through a back door.
- You are instead told to keep a look onto the pokemon of the bad guy while he gets some food. The pokemon starts behaving strangely and tries to get into the back room.
- Your pokemon (which is following you [I don't know yet if that will be ready when the quest is ready]) acts strangely and wants to get in the room adjacent. It manages to get in before you hold it back, and when you get there yourself, you find the old lady tied up.

and you can look for many other creative ways! :)

Okay, for the rewards, it's okay then. The evil guy seems to like giving away rare candies though :-X
Title: Re: quest idea i had
Post by: Wire on April 29, 2011, 07:20:45 PM
The prizes are exactly the same if you choose the bad guy the mission ends earlier make it two things that are completly different too each other maybe a pokemon from one of the people or a ticket to a place or poke egg or fossil.
Title: Re: quest idea i had
Post by: himoo1 on April 30, 2011, 02:37:25 AM
wire, the pokemon are different pokemon... i still haven't decided what pokemon the bad guy will give yet but it will be just one specific pokemon instead of a choice of 3... that is why i said random pokemon...
Jerry, i actually like that idea, so how about:
as you come in the pokemon runs off and you go searching inside the place for it and as you are about to go tell the person you lost steelix in the warehouse you hear a box fall and you go looking for the source of the fall and find the old lady with the steelix and he is trying to free her.
Is that good?
oh and the first reward  and second reward is different now
1st
good- quest continues
bad- quest continues
2nd
good- 3 hyper potions to use to defeat the bad guy
bad-pokemon [lvl 20-25 (I know i said 25 before but i dont know anymore if it should or not help me decide) and a ? help me decide that also] and rare candy
3rd (as a reminder)
good- pokecash and pokemon (lvl 20 onix, machop, or pikachu)
bad- nothing as the quest has already finished
Title: Re: quest idea i had
Post by: Jerry on April 30, 2011, 09:06:19 PM
Good, now that you have your own idea of the how it'll be, that's better :)

Well, I think that the rewards are enough, given the level of the quest I think it is.
Title: Re: quest idea i had
Post by: himoo1 on April 30, 2011, 10:29:57 PM
thanks and it was thanks to yours, declans, and other peoples help on this asking me about part of it and showing me blank spots and generally giving good advise
Title: Re: quest idea i had
Post by: Wire on May 01, 2011, 12:02:24 AM
Thanks to me too right
Title: Re: quest idea i had
Post by: himoo1 on May 01, 2011, 12:43:53 AM
yes of course you also wire, thanks:)