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Title: New game is coming (Pokémon + Nobunaga's Ambition)
Post by: Mr.Dodo on December 17, 2011, 06:17:21 PM
Hi guys good news.
New Pokemon game was announced today in Japan. It´s called Pokémon + Nobunaga's Ambition.

[spoiler]Trailer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u34bzH5Eo04&feature=player_embedded#! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u34bzH5Eo04&feature=player_embedded#!)[/spoiler]

Its due to air in Spring 2012 in Japan for Nintendo DS.
Its place will be in new region "Ranse" and the game will be RPG (like Colosseum and XD).
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Post by: Darkstar64 on December 17, 2011, 07:29:17 PM
Gotta say, I don't like where this is going...Maybe it'll change my mind as time goes on, but it doesn't look like it'll be very good.
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Post by: genbor on December 17, 2011, 07:30:52 PM
Why is there a Mewtwo in ancient Japan?
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Post by: Darkstar64 on December 17, 2011, 07:35:12 PM
That's a good question! There's probably some time-traveling bull-crap explanation.
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Post by: Deion1 on December 17, 2011, 07:48:42 PM
Looks like alot work
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Post by: Jerry on December 17, 2011, 08:07:27 PM
Well, for those not aware of it, here's the official site: http://www.pokemon.co.jp/ex/ranse/
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Post by: Fantom on December 17, 2011, 08:25:09 PM
Look cool , only if i know japanese =.=
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Post by: NexosYourGayBestFriend96 on December 17, 2011, 08:30:10 PM
It's official, they are runnign out of ideas, fast.

Edit: gameplay is awsome though, I'm just worried about the story.
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Post by: Jerry on December 17, 2011, 08:31:40 PM
Why not a turn based strategy game? If you played Advanced Wars, or Fire Emblem, that's what it could be like, but with pokemon. Though it's not totally like those two games, of course.
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Post by: NexosYourGayBestFriend96 on December 17, 2011, 08:34:45 PM
Storyline is realy the only thing I'm worried, that, and I wonder if this thing will even be released in america.
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Post by: Jerry on December 17, 2011, 08:42:04 PM
Both storyline and gameplay are important for a new game. And probably yes, depends on the popularity I guess in Japan.
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Post by: Mr.Dodo on December 17, 2011, 09:17:04 PM
Why not a turn based strategy game? If you played Advanced Wars, or Fire Emblem, that's what it could be like, but with pokemon. Though it's not totally like those two games, of course.

Oh these games are great. As I m watching screenshoots, these game could be like those 2. It would be really great.
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Post by: Chikouu on December 17, 2011, 09:30:33 PM
Well, it have gotten me interested. I have been hoping for a new battle system, and this one seems fun. I juts hope that the story line is good.
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Post by: zorocario on December 18, 2011, 12:25:42 AM
Dam, they are coming out with a other pokemon game and i didnt finish freaking heartgold and soulsilver. i might have to buys a other DS so i can go 2 times as fast. ;D
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Post by: Mr.Dodo on December 18, 2011, 01:02:56 AM
Dam, they are coming out with a other pokemon game and i didnt finish freaking heartgold and soulsilver. i might have to buys a other DS so i can go 2 times as fast. ;D

I know how you feel. When i got HG (it was late), alredy Black & White was released in Japan. I come to 5 City (that in the island, dont know name) and Black & White was released in Europe so i bought Black and start playing it completly forgot about HG .
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Post by: zorocario on December 18, 2011, 01:13:33 AM
I going to try to finish Heartgold and Black and white.(hoping to get them done before the new game come out.) If not, i going to ask metagross to use Expolsion. ;D
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Post by: Mr.Dodo on December 18, 2011, 01:40:53 AM
Here is what i find about fighting style:
(http://www.serebii.net/nobunaga/control.jpg)
(http://www.serebii.net/nobunaga/jigglypuffcombat.jpg)

Maybe this help a bit.
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Post by: Darkstar64 on December 18, 2011, 01:43:18 AM
*sigh*...

I really don't want to become one of those people who says this, but this isn't even pokemon anymore. It's just Fire Emblem with Pokemon taped over the top of it.
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Post by: Tickles on December 18, 2011, 01:45:29 AM
*sigh*...

I really don't want to become one of those people who says this, but this isn't even pokemon anymore. It's just Fire Emblem with Pokemon taped over the top of it.

They try too hard, they should just stick to their guns and use what works. Most games fail because the company has a concept that can still work, but they want to find a new way to play, and switch to that. They never go back to what worked in the first place, and eventually make filler titles you will never hear about, or can get in the $15 bin at walmart.
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Post by: Darkstar64 on December 18, 2011, 01:50:21 AM
*sigh*...

I really don't want to become one of those people who says this, but this isn't even pokemon anymore. It's just Fire Emblem with Pokemon taped over the top of it.

They try too hard, they should just stick to their guns and use what works. Most games fail because the company has a concept that can still work, but they want to find a new way to play, and switch to that. They never go back to what worked in the first place, and eventually make filler titles you will never hear about, or can get in the $15 bin at walmart.

I think they sometimes have good ideas, but once they see that something works, they forget about the originals completely.

Take Sonic for example.

'Nuff said.
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Post by: Monzta on December 18, 2011, 03:12:03 AM
What's the discussion? 0.o
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Post by: Mr.Dodo on December 18, 2011, 10:43:59 AM
I think that Spin-off games are needed in Pokemon company to fill places between the original games. If there were original game every year that would be to much and if there werent spin-offs Pokemon would lose something.
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Post by: Darkstar64 on December 18, 2011, 11:13:42 AM
Exact opposite.

They shouldn't make spin-off games, because as soon as they find one that works, they stick with it. And they never go back to the originals that got them there in the first place.

Like when was the last time you saw a Megaman game that was like Megaman X? Or a Sonic game that was similar to the original Sonic?
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Post by: John Flame on December 18, 2011, 11:56:36 AM
Well to me,the best games were the PMD ones.But i can never forgot that the rpg's brought me here...
They are gonna ruin it all... nuf said...
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Post by: JayCee on December 18, 2011, 02:15:54 PM
ouh god. Looks so terrible :( Graphic & gameplay ...

From screens looks a bit like Heroes of Might & Magic :D
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Post by: Mr.Dodo on December 18, 2011, 03:34:48 PM
Exact opposite.

They shouldn't make spin-off games, because as soon as they find one that works, they stick with it. And they never go back to the originals that got them there in the first place.

Like when was the last time you saw a Megaman game that was like Megaman X? Or a Sonic game that was similar to the original Sonic?

OK you have your opinion. But Pokemon will not be Pokemon without spin-offs.
Well about Megamen and Sonic is completly different story.
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Post by: TerryE on December 18, 2011, 04:15:53 PM
WTF HAPPENED TO POKEMON!!? It looks like another mystery dungeon game but with humans!
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Post by: Firestar96 on December 18, 2011, 05:32:15 PM
I guess pokemon is running thereselves out. They need to make a good idea like remaking pokemon yellow red and blue. Not something like pokemon rumble with humans.  :'(
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Post by: Mr.Dodo on December 18, 2011, 05:52:25 PM
I guess pokemon is running thereselves out. They need to make a good idea like remaking pokemon yellow red and blue. Not something like pokemon rumble with humans.  :'(

 Wtf, dont red and blue have remakes?????
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Post by: John Flame on December 18, 2011, 05:54:01 PM
You know wath they need?

Pokémon Mystery Dungeon:Guardians of the Ruby/Shappire and a later expansion as Emerald.
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Post by: Demonicdan on December 18, 2011, 06:24:27 PM
I'd rather have a new pokémon snap personally.
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Post by: Mr.Dodo on December 18, 2011, 06:41:39 PM
I'd rather have a new pokémon snap personally.

Snap, personly dont like it, but remakes of that old would be better then having new stupid Spin-offs (like Pokemon typing DS)
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Post by: KaminaEXE on December 18, 2011, 08:41:47 PM
I'd rather have a new pokémon snap personally.

Snap was kinda cool but i doubt they will make a new one.
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Post by: Darkstar64 on December 19, 2011, 12:04:27 AM
Exact opposite.

They shouldn't make spin-off games, because as soon as they find one that works, they stick with it. And they never go back to the originals that got them there in the first place.

Like when was the last time you saw a Megaman game that was like Megaman X? Or a Sonic game that was similar to the original Sonic?

OK you have your opinion. But Pokemon will not be Pokemon without spin-offs.
Well about Megamen and Sonic is completly different story.

How so? Pokemon is better without spin-offs. To tell you the truth, PMD and Ranger are the ONLY spin-off games I've ever liked. But all of the other ones; Pokemon Dash, Pokemon Trozei, Pokemon Pinball, etc.; were pretty bad. Let's face it, Pokemon spin-offs are probably some of the worst.
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Post by: Mr.Dodo on December 19, 2011, 05:41:40 PM
Exact opposite.

They shouldn't make spin-off games, because as soon as they find one that works, they stick with it. And they never go back to the originals that got them there in the first place.

Like when was the last time you saw a Megaman game that was like Megaman X? Or a Sonic game that was similar to the original Sonic?

How so? Pokemon is better without spin-offs. To tell you the truth, PMD and Ranger are the ONLY spin-off games I've ever liked. But all of the other ones; Pokemon Dash, Pokemon Trozei, Pokemon Pinball, etc.; were pretty bad. Let's face it, Pokemon spin-offs are probably some of the worst.


But there is Pokemon Rumble (Wii and now 3ds) StadiumPokepark (1.2)
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Post by: TheSolx on December 19, 2011, 05:50:05 PM
We're screwed... And personally, MD is the only good Spin-off I've played
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Post by: KaminaEXE on December 20, 2011, 03:39:44 AM
I personally think that pokemon Puzzle league, pokemon pinball and the pokemon trading card game where all good games in their own ways.
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Post by: NexosYourGayBestFriend96 on December 20, 2011, 03:56:06 AM
Personaly I hate pokemon rumble, it was just a bit dark to me.

But my favorite spinoff Pokemon Channel, and Hey you Pikachu, even though they were slightly annoying on certain parts, they were fun.
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Post by: Darkstar64 on December 20, 2011, 04:15:34 AM
I forgot about the TCG...G...

The thing was the TCGG was similar to the traditional games in many ways.

I agree with you, TCGG was a good game, but I don't see a lot of good spin-offs.
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Post by: KaminaEXE on December 20, 2011, 08:23:23 AM
I forgot about the TCG...G...

The thing was the TCGG was similar to the traditional games in many ways.

I agree with you, TCGG was a good game, but I don't see a lot of good spin-offs.

Yeah i had alot of good memories with that game.
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Post by: league_champion_dude on December 20, 2011, 10:41:31 AM
man already a new game.
thought they would first make a new mystery dungeon or ranger.
this is totally different than the rest of the pokemon games.
but why do you have to start with an eevee?
just a starter would be ok by me
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Post by: Darkstar64 on December 20, 2011, 10:46:48 AM
man already a new game.
thought they would first make a new mystery dungeon or ranger.
this is totally different than the rest of the pokemon games.
but why do you have to start with an eevee?
just a starter would be ok by me
It adds to the story. If you just choose your starter, then you have it, and that's the end of that. But with a specified beginning pokemon, it gives you that much more of a connection to it.

Granted, they COULD make it to where you get the best of both worlds, yet they choose not to.
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Post by: league_champion_dude on December 20, 2011, 12:57:21 PM
maybe you're right
and you can evolve with eevee in like 7 forms now
but i like to see the gameplay because i think its hard to combine.

how will they catch pokemon? or will they befriend them

check this updated vid
it shows the gameplay and trailer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXzFetmvups
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Post by: Mr.Dodo on December 20, 2011, 04:06:06 PM
They are just rushing things with Pokemon. Even their new games have no sense anymore (like this one) they are making sequels from their best selling games to earn more money.
I think they are rushing (new spin-off like every six mounts) because of money and money and money XD
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Post by: KaminaEXE on December 20, 2011, 07:53:40 PM
Unfortunately thats buisness and things that have alot of potential often get ruined by greed.
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Post by: Mr.Dodo on December 20, 2011, 10:06:13 PM
Well thats how life is... :D
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Post by: Noah_Road on December 20, 2011, 11:23:40 PM
I for one really like the concept of these games. Considering that this is a SPIN-OFF, I think it will do just fine. Giant gaming coprs like Pokemon need spin-off games to give players a change of pace while the company works on a new main series game. So far, every Pokemon spin-off has had a different style of battle: Pokemon Rangers and their catching system, PMD with their dungeon crawler gameplay, Colesuem and XD with the Shadow Pokemon + doubles battles being standard, and all the other less important spin-offs with their own uniqe gameplay.

I've actually wanted this concept of pre-modern pokemon for a very long time. Note that there is not one Pokeball in the trailers which probably mean that many people we fight in this game treat their pokemon akin to contracted summons. I'm very excited to hear more about this game.

As for the Mewtwo, I'm almost certain that they will either not explain how it is possible for genetic pokemon to be in the game which it obviously takes place before he was born (since spin-offs aren't canon, they don't need to give an explination) or that Mewtwo will be the main focus of the game and the story will revolve around how it came into being in this time period.
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Post by: KaminaEXE on December 20, 2011, 11:34:08 PM
I for one am all for spinnoffs but i just want them to at least put some quality time into it they, for the most part, have done a good job thus far.

Also i think a pre modern pokemon is a great idea there are a ton of  possibilitys i just hope they do it right like an Edo period Japan type setting and thats what it kinda looks like so im happy.
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Post by: Jerry on December 21, 2011, 06:37:21 AM
And if you worry about the timeline of pokemon, why do you play Zelda games? ::)
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Post by: Darkstar64 on December 21, 2011, 06:39:02 AM
And if you worry about the timeline of pokemon, why do you play Zelda games? ::)

There's errors in the Zelda timeline? Really? Because if there are, I'm gonna start liking Zelda a lot less.
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Post by: Jerry on December 21, 2011, 06:42:59 AM
There's errors in the Zelda timeline? Really? Because if there are, I'm gonna start liking Zelda a lot less.

Not 'errors' so to say, but it is difficult to come up with an explanation as to how the storyline, taking into consideration all the games, goes. But then, there's the producer I think who will be publishing a small book(let) explaining everything.

And as for the Pokemon + Nobunaga crossover, one could simply say that Celebi took Mewtwo to the past, or Dialga, or something like that. Time travelling in pokemon isn't that new really...

And noo!! Zelda series are among the best game ever!
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Post by: Darkstar64 on December 21, 2011, 06:52:23 AM
If you play Skyward Sword, it makes things a LOT easier to comprehend.

Back to the subject at hand, that could be boring and expected, but at least it would make sense. What would be the worst is if they didn't bother giving any explanation at all. At least something vague would be nice.
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Post by: KaminaEXE on December 21, 2011, 07:00:02 AM
Ehhh as a long time fan of zelda i for one think they just make the story up as they go but thats not why i like zelda though so i doesnt bother me much.
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Post by: TheSolx on December 21, 2011, 07:03:51 AM
Mewtwo had the DNA of New, right. And Mew have the DNA of all Pokemon. That would mean it should have the DNA of both Celebi and Dialga, therefore, both Mew and Mewtwo should be able to travel in time (and space)...

Your mind = BLOWN!
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Post by: Jerry on December 21, 2011, 07:07:30 AM
Mewtwo had the DNA of New, right. And Mew have the DNA of all Pokemon. That would mean it should have the DNA of both Celebi and Dialga, therefore, both Mew and Mewtwo should be able to travel in time (and space)...

Your mind = BLOWN!

Having the DNA of someone/thing doesn't necessarily mean that you will have the traits of that someone/thing you know? ::)

Like if your DNA were to somehow merge with a dog, you would most probably suffer from all sorts of weird things until your body can no more handle it.

But that said, whether they give an explanation or not in that ranse game, I am looking forward to play it.
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Post by: TheSolx on December 21, 2011, 07:17:49 AM
Mewtwo had the DNA of New, right. And Mew have the DNA of all Pokemon. That would mean it should have the DNA of both Celebi and Dialga, therefore, both Mew and Mewtwo should be able to travel in time (and space)...

Your mind = BLOWN!

Having the DNA of someone/thing doesn't necessarily mean that you will have the traits of that someone/thing you know? ::)

Like if your DNA were to somehow merge with a dog, you would most probably suffer from all sorts of weird things until your body can no more handle it.

But that said, whether they give an explanation or not in that ranse game, I am looking forward to play it.

True :o
But still... it's a interesting thought, right?
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Post by: league_champion_dude on December 21, 2011, 10:20:02 AM
that is really an interesting thought, but i've never seen mew or a mewtwo do something like a time travel.
So i suppose that dialga or a celebi is the most obvious solution there is.
Or maybe they already made a mewtwo sooner and then he died or something like that.
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Post by: Yume Tsuki on December 21, 2011, 01:57:56 PM
When I looked at the gameplay I thought of PMD so i'm not really sure if I should be excited.
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Post by: FireDarkGuy on December 21, 2011, 02:18:04 PM
Hmpf...Nothing new...It's like Pokemon Mystery Dungeon even if they got more Pokemons.
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Post by: Mr.Dodo on December 21, 2011, 03:14:51 PM
This game, i think, will be with new battle style, nothing we ve seen before :D
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Post by: league_champion_dude on December 21, 2011, 04:53:44 PM
i will leave further comment until the game comes out  :-X
cause i dont know what to say about the battle system
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Post by: Mr.Dodo on December 21, 2011, 05:44:08 PM
i will leave further comment until the game comes out  :-X
cause i dont know what to say about the battle system

...or until more screenshots and new trailers :D
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Post by: Hinagiku on December 22, 2011, 09:00:59 PM
I'd rather have a new pokémon snap personally.
^THIS, totally

But this game definitely looks....interesting? It could have potential, but if Nobunaga's Ambition is a game where you try to conquer Japan, does that mean you're trying to take over Japan with an Eevee? I mean, Eevees are great and all, a personal favorite, but other characters have freakin' Mewtwo, Groudon, Zekrom, and Articuno!? WTFudge?
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Post by: Biscony on December 22, 2011, 09:08:27 PM
Man, I need to finish every single game again, i may not have time.

But i can't wait!
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Post by: Noah_Road on December 23, 2011, 01:33:27 AM
I'd rather have a new pokémon snap personally.
^THIS, totally

But this game definitely looks....interesting? It could have potential, but if Nobunaga's Ambition is a game where you try to conquer Japan, does that mean you're trying to take over Japan with an Eevee? I mean, Eevees are great and all, a personal favorite, but other characters have freakin' Mewtwo, Groudon, Zekrom, and Articuno!? WTFudge?

^ THIS! Lol you're right though. I think they have overdone the Eevee starter thing. I'm not complaining though as Eevee is a fan favorite. I just really hope we can catch other pokemon since I'm pretty sure an Eevee won't do so well against a Zekrom by itself.
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Post by: Hinagiku on December 24, 2011, 06:02:01 AM
^ THIS! Lol you're right though. I think they have overdone the Eevee starter thing. I'm not complaining though as Eevee is a fan favorite. I just really hope we can catch other pokemon since I'm pretty sure an Eevee won't do so well against a Zekrom by itself.

It looks like you can catch a Bibarel at least from what I've seen (Not much better, lol)--that at least gives a hope you can add to your team...
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Post by: LeoReborn on December 24, 2011, 02:37:04 PM
I played B/W, but not enough to say so.

This game looks nothing like Coloseum or XD.
It looks more like a Rip-off of Final Fantasy: Tactics.

I thought All Pokemon games were turn-based Strategy games?(to an extent anyways)
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Post by: KaminaEXE on December 29, 2011, 08:48:07 AM
I played B/W, but not enough to say so.

This game looks nothing like Coloseum or XD.
It looks more like a Rip-off of Final Fantasy: Tactics.

I thought All Pokemon games were turn-based Strategy games?(to an extent anyways)

Sweet i love final fantasy tactics.
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Post by: TheSolx on January 02, 2012, 02:29:35 PM
I feel a slight amount of anger when heari- *cough* reading you comparing FF to Pokemon... Sure, I love Pokemon, but FF lies deeper.

Oh wait, Tactics? Sure... I didn't play that much. Got stuck after a while
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Post by: Jerry on January 02, 2012, 02:35:13 PM
I feel a slight amount of anger when heari- *cough* reading you comparing FF to Pokemon... Sure, I love Pokemon, but FF lies deeper.

Oh wait, Tactics? Sure... I didn't play that much. Got stuck after a while

Heh, with so many people complaining that pokemon games are too easy...
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Post by: CraigGameFan on January 02, 2012, 02:41:54 PM
GAHH. Why cant they just sticck to the classic trainer-pokemon league-evil organisation way. They could have remade most or all of yellow for DS or got most of ruby and sapphire done by now.


This new game looks like pokemon dungeon with better graphics...
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Post by: Jerry on January 02, 2012, 02:48:52 PM
GAHH. Why cant they just sticck to the classic trainer-pokemon league-evil organisation way. They could have remade most or all of yellow for DS or got most of ruby and sapphire done by now.


This new game looks like pokemon dungeon with better graphics...

Maybe it's easier to collaborate with more people and come out with something new which they want to know whether it will become popular or not?

I mean, innovation is something which does good to any organisation.
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Post by: CraigGameFan on January 02, 2012, 02:58:32 PM
GAHH. Why cant they just sticck to the classic trainer-pokemon league-evil organisation way. They could have remade most or all of yellow for DS or got most of ruby and sapphire done by now.


This new game looks like pokemon dungeon with better graphics...

Maybe it's easier to collaborate with more people and come out with something new which they want to know whether it will become popular or not?

I mean, innovation is something which does good to any organisation.

Yeah i suppose. I still think they should do something like gale of darkness..
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Post by: KaminaEXE on January 12, 2012, 07:22:09 AM
Hey if they want to take a new take on pokemon im all for that but i just want them to take their time and do it RIGHT make it less gimicky and feel like a real pokemon game just in a different setting.
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Post by: Mr.Dodo on January 12, 2012, 08:03:18 PM
According to Serebii.net:
CoroCoro scans are starting to come off of various online sources. The first of these scans confirm that the battles you have are in the 6 VS 6 battles, using 1 Pokémon per trainer, but with multiple trainers in each area. Once you defeat the leaders of each of the 17 castles across the kingdoms, you take the castle for yourself. You make new Pokémon friends by linking with wild Pokémon outside of battle and befriend the leaders who can then aid you with their special power, increasing your strength, movement or Hit Points.
You also have the ability to battle with friends across the Nintendo WiFi Connection and wireless play.
The release date is also confirmed to be March 17th 2012 and will retail at 5,800 Yen. It also revealed new warrior leaders and their Pokémon
Hideyoshi has Monferno (but is seen in the trailer with Infernape)
Motonari has Servine
Motochika has Dewott
We'll bring more, including larger images, when they come.
(http://www.serebii.net/nobunaga/coro1.jpg)
(http://www.serebii.net/nobunaga/coro2.jpg)
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Post by: CraigGameFan on January 12, 2012, 08:41:28 PM
So what are we thinking - will it be good?
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Post by: Aquashin on January 12, 2012, 08:44:14 PM
Reminds me of Final Fantasy Tactics in GBA...
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Post by: Mr.Dodo on January 12, 2012, 08:59:33 PM
Reminds me of Final Fantasy Tactics in GBA...

Yes it does.
This game was gone so far away of all other Pokemon games so i think that this game will not success
 
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Post by: Spartan on January 12, 2012, 10:32:05 PM
this game doesnt look as good as any of the other pokemon games but as pokemon fan im probably going to get it
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Post by: Aquashin on January 12, 2012, 10:51:40 PM
if anything i will download it and play it...
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Post by: Spartan on January 12, 2012, 11:30:24 PM
if anything i will download it and play it...
yeah you have the right idea
Title: Re: New game is coming :D
Post by: Mr.Dodo on January 13, 2012, 12:15:29 AM
if anything i will download it and play it...

Yea me too :D
Only game i bought for DS was Heart Gold (guess why..), others i downloaded :D
Title: Re: New game is coming :D
Post by: BloodyImpact. on January 13, 2012, 12:18:50 AM
man i wish the game would be done already! im tired of waiting lol
Title: Re: New game is coming :D
Post by: Tickles on January 13, 2012, 12:19:41 AM
Which game, you better be talking about the one being discussed in this thread.

My position still stands on this new game. I don't like how it looks, and it looks like it's ripping off fire emblem.
Title: Re: New game is coming :D
Post by: Mr.Dodo on January 13, 2012, 12:28:42 AM
man i wish the game would be done already! im tired of waiting lol

You wished that game is out already?? I would like they didnt even make that game. But OK everybody have own opinion.
Title: Re: New game is coming :D
Post by: WhatThePumpkin on January 13, 2012, 01:07:33 AM
Which game, you better be talking about the one being discussed in this thread.

My position still stands on this new game. I don't like how it looks, and it looks like it's ripping off fire emblem.
WHAT!? It is?
Ehh, I'm not too much a fan of the newer Pokemon games, and Fire Emblem is one of my favorite series, so if they're ripping it off, I'd rather not even bother playing it.
Title: Re: New game is coming :D
Post by: Mr.Dodo on January 13, 2012, 02:00:59 AM
Which game, you better be talking about the one being discussed in this thread.

My position still stands on this new game. I don't like how it looks, and it looks like it's ripping off fire emblem.
WHAT!? It is?
Ehh, I'm not too much a fan of the newer Pokemon games, and Fire Emblem is one of my favorite series, so if they're ripping it off, I'd rather not even bother playing it.

We dont know if it ripping of fire emblem, but by judging the released pictures of game it looks like it.
Title: Re: New game is coming :D
Post by: Shadowfred on January 13, 2012, 02:17:24 AM
Well, it's combining Pokemon with Nobunaga's Ambition, which is a turn based strategy game that came out before Fire Emblem. Granted, adding pokemon will probably bring it away from the army management gameplay, but I wouldn't go around saying it's ripping it off.
Title: Re: New game is coming :D
Post by: Spartan on January 13, 2012, 02:38:00 AM
my opinion is that pokemon should remain the same style as with the 2d character of the earlier games such as firered and ruby and the 3d graphics of black and white so nintendo should keep the games this style
Title: Re: New game is coming :D
Post by: Aquashin on January 13, 2012, 03:14:49 AM
Which game, you better be talking about the one being discussed in this thread.

My position still stands on this new game. I don't like how it looks, and it looks like it's ripping off fire emblem.

gotta dissagree with you there, its looks like Final Fantasy Tactics from GBA, u can check it, Fire Emblem is pure epicness, notihng like this trash
Title: Re: New game is coming :D
Post by: Spartan on January 13, 2012, 03:27:21 AM
Which game, you better be talking about the one being discussed in this thread.

My position still stands on this new game. I don't like how it looks, and it looks like it's ripping off fire emblem.

gotta dissagree with you there, its looks like Final Fantasy Tactics from GBA, u can check it, Fire Emblem is pure epicness, notihng like this trash
i agree with cortex this game just doesnt look that fun
Title: Re: New game is coming :D
Post by: Mr.Dodo on January 14, 2012, 12:32:35 PM
http://www.serebii.net/nobunaga/battle.shtml (http://www.serebii.net/nobunaga/battle.shtml)
OK here is the link about battle style and much more.
The game will be very similar to Advance Wars, but with Pokemon :D
Title: Re: New game is coming :D
Post by: TheSolx on January 14, 2012, 02:57:38 PM
Ugh.... Looks exactly like FF:AT to me...
Title: Re: New game is coming :D
Post by: Aquashin on January 14, 2012, 04:56:08 PM
Ugh.... Looks exactly like FF:AT to me...

exactly my words...

http://www.serebii.net/nobunaga/battle.shtml (http://www.serebii.net/nobunaga/battle.shtml)
OK here is the link about battle style and much more.
The game will be very similar to Advance Wars, but with Pokemon :D

sorry but why does everyone compares this to games that have NOTHING to do with this one?

Advanced Wars its epic, the way the field is as nothing to do with this pokemon game

Fire Emblem its epic as well, the field isnt even close to this pokemon game

do open your eyes, this game's ideia was taken from Final Fantasy Tactics Advance of GBA
(http://ui32.gamefaqs.com/479/gfs_44908_2_9.jpg)

check for yourselves then check Advanced Wars or Fire Emblem, you will see that its just like FF TA
Title: Re: New game is coming :D
Post by: Mr.Dodo on January 14, 2012, 08:00:36 PM
Ugh.... Looks exactly like FF:AT to me...

exactly my words...

http://www.serebii.net/nobunaga/battle.shtml (http://www.serebii.net/nobunaga/battle.shtml)
OK here is the link about battle style and much more.
The game will be very similar to Advance Wars, but with Pokemon :D

sorry but why does everyone compares this to games that have NOTHING to do with this one?

Advanced Wars its epic, the way the field is as nothing to do with this pokemon game

Fire Emblem its epic as well, the field isnt even close to this pokemon game

do open your eyes, this game's ideia was taken from Final Fantasy Tactics Advance of GBA
(http://ui32.gamefaqs.com/479/gfs_44908_2_9.jpg)

check for yourselves then check Advanced Wars or Fire Emblem, you will see that its just like FF TA

I have never played Final Fantasy Tactics are any other FF game.
But if you better check there are flying Pokemon like Serebii said can fly through obstacles (flying unitts in AW)
Then Bushou Power, power of trainer that can be launch to aid in battle, like power in AW.
Moving is similar, Attack is similar so this game looks like AW to me..
Title: Re: New game is coming :D
Post by: Aquashin on January 14, 2012, 08:06:59 PM
Ugh.... Looks exactly like FF:AT to me...

exactly my words...

http://www.serebii.net/nobunaga/battle.shtml (http://www.serebii.net/nobunaga/battle.shtml)
OK here is the link about battle style and much more.
The game will be very similar to Advance Wars, but with Pokemon :D

sorry but why does everyone compares this to games that have NOTHING to do with this one?

Advanced Wars its epic, the way the field is as nothing to do with this pokemon game

Fire Emblem its epic as well, the field isnt even close to this pokemon game

do open your eyes, this game's ideia was taken from Final Fantasy Tactics Advance of GBA
(http://ui32.gamefaqs.com/479/gfs_44908_2_9.jpg)

check for yourselves then check Advanced Wars or Fire Emblem, you will see that its just like FF TA

I have never played Final Fantasy Tactics are any other FF game.
But if you better check there are flying Pokemon like Serebii said can fly through obstacles (flying unitts in AW)
Then Bushou Power, power of trainer that can be launch to aid in battle, like power in AW.
Moving is similar, Attack is similar so this game looks like AW to me..

The Boshou Power its the Totema (Espers) in FF TA, Flying pokemon will be able to walk through places that normal pokemon cant, just like flying monsters in FF TA

do i need to say more?
Title: Re: New game is coming :D
Post by: Mr.Dodo on January 23, 2012, 06:32:07 PM
The new trailer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyZ6ayup4O8&feature=player_embedded#!
Title: Re: New game is coming :D
Post by: Aquashin on January 23, 2012, 06:36:50 PM
it still impresses me how they only managed to ripoff from a game in GBA...oh well...
Title: Re: New game is coming :D
Post by: Hinagiku on January 24, 2012, 04:57:59 AM
My only real issue with this is that it brings Pokemon cruelty to a new level. If the bad teams of the games are bad because they feel hurting pokemon is justified when taking over the region/world, then what are you, using pokemon to attack other pokemon to take over the region/country?
Sorry... Maybe a bit sensitive over the game, but it's an ethical point I thought I'd bring up...
Title: Re: New game is coming :D
Post by: Aquashin on January 24, 2012, 05:41:15 AM
My only real issue with this is that it brings Pokemon cruelty to a new level. If the bad teams of the games are bad because they feel hurting pokemon is justified when taking over the region/world, then what are you, using pokemon to attack other pokemon to take over the region/country?
Sorry... Maybe a bit sensitive over the game, but it's an ethical point I thought I'd bring up...

people dont think that far ahead...

but if u remenber that pokemon Movie with Lucario and Mew, you will remenber that Lucario lived on a past that included kingdom and using pokemon to battle between kingdoms, so a game like this wouldnt be a surprise
Title: Re: New game is coming :D
Post by: Hinagiku on January 24, 2012, 06:33:36 AM
people dont think that far ahead...

Eheh... yeah, sometimes I have a bad habit with that.... ^ ^;; Overthinking, I mean...

but if u remenber that pokemon Movie with Lucario and Mew, you will remenber that Lucario lived on a past that included kingdom and using pokemon to battle between kingdoms, so a game like this wouldnt be a surprise
Oh yeah, huh.... :| I was still quite mad at the people for that too though... Then again, even in the games Pokemon have been used in war, like with the Lightning American--but it seems people fought there too...
Title: Re: New game is coming :D
Post by: Tristan on January 24, 2012, 08:58:22 AM
people dont think that far ahead...

Eheh... yeah, sometimes I have a bad habit with that.... ^ ^;; Overthinking, I mean...

but if u remenber that pokemon Movie with Lucario and Mew, you will remenber that Lucario lived on a past that included kingdom and using pokemon to battle between kingdoms, so a game like this wouldnt be a surprise
Oh yeah, huh.... :| I was still quite mad at the people for that too though... Then again, even in the games Pokemon have been used in war, like with the Lightning American--but it seems people fought there too...

I think its only appropriate that these things exist. Of course Pokemon would be used in battles for centuries, and hey, that includes wars. I guess the thought of Pokemon killing people and vice versa is pretty disturbing, but in a realistic aspect, yeah, it happens. I mean hey, even in Pokemon RGB, Blue asks Red if he's ever had a Pokemon die, and no longer has a Raticate, which pretty much implies that Red killed it on the St. Anne. The only thing missing is the crazy PETA groups that would exist in the Pokemon world...
Title: Re: New game is coming :D
Post by: Darkstar64 on January 24, 2012, 09:38:24 AM
This is still a thing? How is this still a thing? ???

Having only played FF:4 Heroes of Light, and playing Fire Emblem for as much as 10 seconds, I can't say I can relate to this last conversation. That having been said, I think this game will turn out to be better than some of the other pokemon spin offs, because let's face it, with the exception of Mystery Dungeon, the spin offs are terrible. I really don't like this game, because it only takes the pokemon themselves and makes a completely different game out of it, but it'll at least end up being better than...

Pokemon Dash...

(https://whyweprotest.net/asset-proxy/1348fbe4150ed3cb09bdb6c20e0a5fdd5dc18570/687474703a2f2f692e696d6775722e636f6d2f6259564d682e6a7067/http://i.imgur.com/bYVMh.jpg)
Title: Re: New game is coming :D
Post by: Tristan on January 24, 2012, 09:55:37 AM
BTW, on the subject of new games and what not... the Pokemon website is advertising this:

(http://assets21.pokemon.com/static/_ui/mewtwo_2012/img/mewtwo-teaser.jpg)

What does it mean?!
Title: Re: New game is coming :D
Post by: Jerry on January 24, 2012, 05:12:58 PM
Probably linked to Pokemon TCG...

EDIT: Typo
Title: Re: New game is coming :D
Post by: Tickles on January 24, 2012, 05:15:13 PM
Probably linked to Pokemon TGC...
Don't you mean TCG Jerry, and yeah, I agree, it may have to do with that due to the whole "EX" logo.
Title: Re: New game is coming :D
Post by: Jerry on January 24, 2012, 05:18:20 PM
Oops, yeap. Been working with too many 'GC's today :-[
Title: Re: New game is coming :D
Post by: Tristan on January 24, 2012, 07:19:22 PM
Bah, I wasn't sure what "EX" but I was leaning on it being something to do with the TGC. Who even still does that? >_>
Title: Re: New game is coming :D
Post by: Jerry on January 24, 2012, 07:20:16 PM
You'd be surprised by the number of people...
Title: Re: New game is coming :D
Post by: Tristan on January 24, 2012, 07:25:19 PM
You'd be surprised by the number of people...

Well a good friend of mine actually makes some decent money off of Yu-gi-oh TGC contests so hey... I guess you're right come to think of it. It's funny too because hes not like a super geek or anything, or at least he doesn't come off that way, but yeah, he becomes a strategist master in those things haha
Title: Re: New game is coming :D
Post by: Mr.Dodo on January 25, 2012, 02:51:43 PM
Wait a sec, isnt Trading card game TCG???
Title: Re: New game is coming :D
Post by: Aquashin on January 25, 2012, 04:14:41 PM
yup
Title: Re: New game is coming :D
Post by: Wrathes on January 25, 2012, 07:45:23 PM
Almost had a breath take b/c someone didn't know what TCG means... =.="
Title: Re: New game is coming :D
Post by: Mr.Dodo on January 25, 2012, 09:46:40 PM
Almost had a breath take b/c someone didn't know what TCG means... =.="

If you think about me.. Then you should check posts posted before. Everyone was writing TGC instead of TCG so i said that it is TCG :O
Title: Re: New game is coming :D
Post by: Tristan on January 25, 2012, 10:26:44 PM
Lol, my bad, acronym fail on my part.
Title: Re: New game is coming :D
Post by: Wrathes on January 25, 2012, 11:39:43 PM
Almost had a breath take b/c someone didn't know what TCG means... =.="

If you think about me.. Then you should check posts posted before. Everyone was writing TGC instead of TCG so i said that it is TCG :O
these people.. what a shame =/
Title: Re: New game is coming :D
Post by: Hinagiku on January 27, 2012, 03:25:09 AM
*sigh* I really want to get back into the TCG, but with no one to play with.... =_="
Title: Re: New game is coming :D
Post by: lubbies on January 27, 2012, 02:53:01 PM
Me too ive got a bunch of cards just lying around :/
Title: Re: New game is coming :D
Post by: Mr.Dodo on January 27, 2012, 06:02:16 PM
Yea a lot of people have lost interest in TCG. But you can found somebody online and play through Skype.
Title: Re: New game is coming :D
Post by: Spartan on January 28, 2012, 03:57:08 AM
Yea a lot of people have lost interest in TCG. But you can found somebody online and play through Skype.
yeah a lot of people have skype and i have a ton of cards from when the TCG first came out
Title: Re: New game is coming :D
Post by: Hinagiku on January 28, 2012, 04:50:19 AM
Yea a lot of people have lost interest in TCG. But you can found somebody online and play through Skype.

Actually just today I found out my friends have card! ^ ^" But at least one doesn't know how to battle, so I'll have to teach 'em, but still!

And I never had considered Skype.... Actually I still probably won't for a while, but thank you for the suggestion!
Title: Re: New game is coming :D
Post by: Aquashin on January 28, 2012, 04:58:33 AM
i havent played in a long long time... since only the First Gen pokemon only existed
Title: Re: New game is coming :D
Post by: Hinagiku on January 28, 2012, 05:21:37 AM
i havent played in a long long time... since only the First Gen pokemon only existed
I got to second gen.... because my first real, full deck was a Psychic/Water deck with Espeon as the main pokemon. And then the deck was sort of stolen/manipulated away and I haven't really played since.
Title: Re: New game is coming :D
Post by: Hank on January 28, 2012, 02:01:46 PM
I'd rather have a new pokémon snap personally.
^THIS, totally

But this game definitely looks....interesting? It could have potential, but if Nobunaga's Ambition is a game where you try to conquer Japan, does that mean you're trying to take over Japan with an Eevee? I mean, Eevees are great and all, a personal favorite, but other characters have freakin' Mewtwo, Groudon, Zekrom, and Articuno!? WTFudge?
Every trainer can have a max of 6 Pokemon.
I guess pokemon is running thereselves out. They need to make a good idea like remaking pokemon yellow red and blue. Not something like pokemon rumble with humans.  :'(

 Wtf, dont red and blue have remakes?????
Yep. Pokemon fire red and Pokemon leaf green.
Title: Re: New game is coming :D
Post by: Jerry on January 28, 2012, 04:59:27 PM
I'd rather have a new pokémon snap personally.
^THIS, totally

But this game definitely looks....interesting? It could have potential, but if Nobunaga's Ambition is a game where you try to conquer Japan, does that mean you're trying to take over Japan with an Eevee? I mean, Eevees are great and all, a personal favorite, but other characters have freakin' Mewtwo, Groudon, Zekrom, and Articuno!? WTFudge?
Every trainer can have a max of 6 Pokemon.

Except that there are no 'trainers' in that game but warriors, and each warrior can control only one pokemon. However, surprise! You can choose (up to) six warriors before each conquer.
Title: Re: New game is coming :D
Post by: Hank on January 28, 2012, 05:38:48 PM
Trainer/Warrior... I really don't care ether way. Thank you for clearing up my ignorance though.
Title: Re: New game is coming :D
Post by: Redtutel on February 26, 2012, 04:30:54 PM
Why is there a Mewtwo in ancient Japan?

Why are there artificial Pokemon in Pokemon mystery dungeon? I don't know at least Mewtwo is in this game.
Title: Re: New game is coming :D
Post by: Mr.Dodo on February 26, 2012, 04:36:56 PM
Why is there a Mewtwo in ancient Japan?

Why are there artificial Pokemon in Pokemon mystery dungeon? I don't know at least Mewtwo is in this game.

If you have watched the trailer then u would know that there is Mewtwo in this game.
Title: Re: New game is coming :D
Post by: Darkstar64 on February 26, 2012, 08:05:57 PM
Why is there a Mewtwo in ancient Japan?

Why are there artificial Pokemon in Pokemon mystery dungeon? I don't know at least Mewtwo is in this game.

He brings up a good point. Porygon has appeared in the MD games before. And if it was a world untouched by humans, how did that happen?

They usually don't bother to explain that far.
Title: Re: New game is coming (Pokémon + Nobunaga's Ambition)
Post by: Jerry on February 26, 2012, 08:11:10 PM
Well, I won't exactly say that it's untouched by humans, since the story itself is originally based on a human (you) who got transformed into a pokemon. It wouldn't surprise me that some reason along the lines that Mewtwo found refuge on that land, seeing that there was a remote possibility for humans to find him (referring to Giovanni) and brought some pokemon with him.

It's just speculation, but I'm happy to be able to befriend Mewtwo even in those games :P
Title: Re: New game is coming (Pokémon + Nobunaga's Ambition)
Post by: CrowsMelody on March 06, 2012, 12:25:24 AM
Well in stead of thinking in the past, maybe it's in the future where technology degraded for some reason and the pokemon were only left as a memory. Im not trying to be too optimistic, but there are possiblities since the companies running pokemon is and running out of ideas.
I just wish that they would do something like HG and SS again because i really enjoy the come back of the old games by inserting 3 years into the furture and that was a nice touch. It's better to do that instead of making rushed ideas.
Title: Re: New game is coming (Pokémon + Nobunaga's Ambition)
Post by: Jerry on March 06, 2012, 05:27:36 PM
Well, we currently have B2 and W2 coming which are technically what you're mentioning, that is sometime after the story in one game.

And I don't think that it's in a future where technology degraded XD From all what has been said, I really don't think that it's in the future :P
Title: Re: New game is coming (Pokémon + Nobunaga's Ambition)
Post by: Viper on April 05, 2012, 05:03:31 AM
Coming to US now, June 18th. Called Pokemon Conquest in English. Cant wait.

http://ds.ign.com/articles/122/1222303p1.html
Title: Re: New game is coming (Pokémon + Nobunaga's Ambition)
Post by: Darkstar64 on April 05, 2012, 05:22:43 AM
Meh, maybe I'll get it. Fire Emblem was fun, so who's to say this isn't?

After all, it does come out the very day of my B-day.