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Pokémon Discussion => Anime & Movies => Topic started by: Tristan on January 17, 2012, 03:33:40 AM
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So I haven't watched Pokemon the anime in a very long time, but I recently got a glimpse at Black and White and my god... whats up with the voices? Ash, Oak, James, even Meowth, they all sound terrible! The animation itself has seriously improved and the story isn't so bad considering its aimed directly at kids, but the voices are horrid. I couldn't take anyone serious!
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i just checked the first voices from the original Pokemon and one example in each season, the voices are the same, i dont know why you think they are terrible ???
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Thas what is known as english dubs.
95% of them sound like that.
You know how to get rid of it?
Stop watching dubbed anime.
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I hate dubbed anime I can't watch anime with horrible English voices that make the characters seem wrong and stupid.
The only anime's if completed in English were Inuyasha season 1, Full Metal Alchemist, Fooly Cooly, and Dragon Ball series.
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shin21: I'm referring to the English dub if that's what you checked.
And to everyone else, well, fair enough. Pokemon is probably the only anime I intentionally would watch in English, simply because it was what I watched as a child, so it seemed only natural to watch it in English when checking out the latest season. All other animes I just watched subbed.
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shin21: I'm referring to the English dub if that's what you checked.
And to everyone else, well, fair enough. Pokemon is probably the only anime I intentionally would watch in English, simply because it was what I watched as a child, so it seemed only natural to watch it in English when checking out the latest season. All other animes I just watched subbed.
yup im refering to english dub, and im the same as you, the only anime dubed that i watch is Pokemon because i allways did, everything else its in japanese with eng subs.
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Err well in that case, let me get something for you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBSaPM-gt5o - Ash and Oak, season 1, episode 1. They maintained the same voices until at least the Battle Frontier.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPX-MfD9o2Y - Ash catching Tepig in B&W.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNh_a3Br2n4 A clip of Oak in either DP or BW, it doesn't matter, its his new voice.
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http://www.anime-planet.com/characters/ash-ketchum
Not sure if this is accurate info but check it out
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You know whats sad? I was watching an interview with the original voice actor of Ash, Veronica Taylor, and she said that she didn't leave on her own, they let her go. She said she misses playing Ash very much, and she cries a little whenever her daughter watches Pokemon. That like...broke my heart lol ;D ... but still sad :(
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They change the voice actor every time they switch regions. It supposed to show the effect of him growing and becoming a better trainer and person. But every time they do it, I rip more of my hair out.
...But I digress. To tell you the truth, Veronica Taylor made Ash sound a little...over-dramatic durring the earlier parts of the series.
Listen to this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjoBuANx1dY&feature=related
I know he's exited, but really?
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props to that one dark, and ur right, she made him sound like he won the freaking lottery
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Well actually, she played him in Kanto, Johto, and Hoenn ... it wasn't until Battle Frontier that she was let go, and then Sarah Natochenny played him in Sinnoh and now Unova. I'll admit Veronica definitely made him sound over-dramatic at times but you'll notice she subtly changed his voice throughout the first season to get it right. To be honest, he just sounds ridiculous in the new one. That clip I posted of him catching Tepig is far more dramatic than anything Veronica ever did.
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I actually just watched the videos you posted, and you're right...
Just listen to Oak! What the hell?! I couldn't even watch the whole thing because of just how much it embarrassed me knowing that someone who I, as a kid, used to look up to. I didn't even like Ash, I just watched for the pokemon and Professor Oak.
Oh, and Gary...
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Heh, did you watch it long enough to hear Brock's new voice actor? Sounds like hes got throat cancer. Its no wonder hes not in Black and White, he sounded beyond terrible.
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No, I closed it within like the first 3 seconds of Oak speaking. :P
I guess I'll try to watch long enough to see Brock.
Edit: Okay, so Oak is now extremely annoying with all the 'poems' he makes. But Brock's voice actor is better in my opinion. It makes you actually take him seriously. I mean, really. His name is Brock!
But Oak's.... My god, what's happened to his authority?!
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You know, I watched it a few times and I'll admit Brock sounds more...rougher, but it definitely caught me off guard when I first heard it. Can't say I'm a fan but I see your point. It's kind of funny because in the games, Brock never expressed any interest in being a breeder, and Misty never appeared to have any sisters. Their characters, along with "Red's", if Ash is even worthy of that name, were totally changed and mixed around. I know why, it adds depth and personality to them, but still, the game incarnations of Brock and Misty seemed pretty content as gym leaders. And yeah, Oak is just annoying. The same guy who plays him plays James now, and the problem is it's highly noticeable, like on a ridiculous level. I don't know, I don't have much interest in watching it anymore anyway because I'd just watch the subbed version if I did, but even so, it's kind of sad to see what the English versions have become. Especially when the original series was probably one of the only English subbed shows out there that wasn't dreadful.
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I don't understand why dubbed has to be terrible all the time! There are only about 5 good japanese anime voice actors, and you notice them when two characters from separate series have the same voice. It detracts from their overall individualism, the very little they may have.
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Yeah, Americans can never catch the same awesome feel and technique to capturing our love for anime as the Japanese do :)
The only animes I watch in dub are Code Geass(because they actually have amazing voice actors!) and Hetalia(the fake accents are hilarious xD)
I like the Japanese dub with english subbed version of Pokemon better because it is so much more original, the names of the pokemon, the attack names...though the thing that made me the most irritated with B/W was that after ALL THIS TIME, Ash is STILL 10 years old, has not gotten ANY better at training pokemon or winning battles, and Pikachu, who should be level 100, gets beaten by a Snivy, level 5...
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Exactly. As far as the anime goes, I honestly don't think it was that bad until after the Advanced Generation. Ash mentoring May made him seem older and more mature, and he seemed better at catching and battling. He even managed to win the Battle Frontier. Then what do they do? Send him home to Pallet where he is easily beaten by Gary who hasn't even been a trainer for at least 4 seasons at that point. After that he just seemed like a nobody, I mean I understand why he wants to only bring only Pikachu and restart in each new region, but come on, he sucks. I've only seen about 2 and a half episodes of Black and White, but he's terrible. He's always being laughed at and taunted because he seems like he doesn't know how to be a trainer...when in reality, he should be a damn master by now. I just don't get it.
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Here is your reason. The writers feel that a hero that builds up is likable, and stick with the concept. What they don't know is if it happens multiple times, it's close to retarded. The anime could have had potential in B/W, but we got crap instead.
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Basically, the writers are ostracizing all the people who grew up with the Pokemon anime.... -__- Not cool.
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Here is your reason. The writers feel that a hero that builds up is likable, and stick with the concept. What they don't know is if it happens multiple times, it's close to retarded. The anime could have had potential in B/W, but we got crap instead.
what confuses me the most is that Pikachu, who was supposed to be a totally badass strong pokemon is with Ash since the start and defeated Latios in the previous seasson almost all by himself manages to lose against a Snivy thats suppose to be low lvl only because it cant use Electric moves
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I've watched the anime in Portuguese when I was a kid, I've recently watched some clips in English and it's so unbearable. If I wanted to watch the anime now (which I don't because it really is aimed to kids, unlike Digimon for instance, which seasons 1 and 3 I have re-watched just 3 years ago and they have a much better storyline) I'd watch it in japanese. Sounds much more serious business in Japanese.
There are very few animes I'd watch in English. One of them is Cromartie High School. It's great in Japanese, but it actually sounds pretty funny in English too, so much I actually found the dubbed version to be better.
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The different voices don't trouble me too much. The only thing I don't like about the progression of the show is the different animation styles.
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The different voices don't trouble me too much. The only thing I don't like about the progression of the show is the different animation styles.
Really? I think the animation has improved for the better. If they're doing anything right, it's that. But I don't even watch the Pokemon anime any more, I'm just angry because when you're a little kid watching, you don't expect them to keep it going forever and juice every little penny out of it they can. I want a damn ending. A proper ending.
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The main thing I don't like about dubbed, is they fit the mouth movements, and not what is actually being said. I was watching an episode of dragonball in Eng dub with Eng subs, and dub Goku said, "You have blue hair" when the subs were taking about a battle.....
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Tristan I totally agree, I mean in Sinnoh who F£$king cares about a sheloss let it die for F*&k sake get to the gym or better yet league... Thats why I stopped watching it took about 5 episodes to get to a gym... JEEZ >:(
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I agree Tristan, I would love some closure, at least with Ash. They could replace his character just like they did with almost every other original character since the beginning.
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Which is one of the reasons why I'm watching it in Japanese. Voices had changed since the beginning of Battle Frontier season (for the worse). However, the plot has improved and Ash is catching a lot more Pokemon than the other regions. Only sad part is that Team Rocket lost their comic relief.
One more thing about the anime I despise is that Ash's age turn back to 10 every region ~_~ and stupid (come on, how do you not know about type advantages and weaknesses!?). On another note, how the heck does Pikachu lose to Snivy? x"D
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On another note, how the heck does Pikachu lose to Snivy? x"D
my point exactly, if you all remenber correctly, Pikachu defeated a realy powerfull Latios by itself, and couldnt defeat a Snivy only because he couldnt use Electric type moves? give me a break....
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Ash secretly has 5 pikachus, and he replaces them when moving to a new region.
Yeah. It's a pokemon conspiracy.
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Which is one of the reasons why I'm watching it in Japanese. Voices had changed since the beginning of Battle Frontier season (for the worse). However, the plot has improved and Ash is catching a lot more Pokemon than the other regions. Only sad part is that Team Rocket lost their comic relief.
One more thing about the anime I despise is that Ash's age turn back to 10 every region ~_~ and stupid (come on, how do you not know about type advantages and weaknesses!?). On another note, how the heck does Pikachu lose to Snivy? x"D
You've hit the nail on the head. B/W had a lot of potential but they just make Ash look like a joke. He's not even like the original Ash, he seems way more childish, and I hate Iris. Cilan is *okay* but Iris is beyond annoying with all her criticism. The sad part is that she's not wrong. Like I said, Ash is a joke. His new rival pissed me off because lets be honest here, Ash should be somewhat known as a trainer. He's competed in a ton of leagues and tournaments and he's a Battle Frontier Pokemon Champion. Then Skip or Trip or whatever the guy's called just disrespects him like that. If that were me, I'd say screw all the Unova Pokemon, get back Charizard, Snorlax, Sceptile, and whoever else I need to pwn the league. I know it's a kids show and they have to keep the format going so it's stays alive, but my god, it wasn't this annoying when I was little.
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I liked the anime up until they switched voices. It would have been fine if the voices sounded somewhat like the original ones, but the voices during battle frontier is awful.
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You've hit the nail on the head. B/W had a lot of potential but they just make Ash look like a joke. He's not even like the original Ash, he seems way more childish, and I hate Iris. Cilan is *okay* but Iris is beyond annoying with all her criticism. The sad part is that she's not wrong. Like I said, Ash is a joke. His new rival pissed me off because lets be honest here, Ash should be somewhat known as a trainer. He's competed in a ton of leagues and tournaments and he's a Battle Frontier Pokemon Champion. Then Skip or Trip or whatever the guy's called just disrespects him like that. If that were me, I'd say screw all the Unova Pokemon, get back Charizard, Snorlax, Sceptile, and whoever else I need to pwn the league. I know it's a kids show and they have to keep the format going so it's stays alive, but my god, it wasn't this annoying when I was little.
I'm indifferent towards Iris and Cilan, but definitely prefer Misty and Brock.
It's true, Paul annoyed the hell out of me as well ~_~ I understand that Ash needs to start over with new pokemon, otherwise he'd overpower the new trainers... but that doesn't mean that he has to be THAT weak.
Haha the reason why we probably did not find it as annoying when we were little was probably because it was fresh and that we know a lot more things now compared to back then.
Henceforth, Pokemon Special (manga) all the way!
@ Shermana, haha it really sounded like Ash hit puberty x"D yet still turns back to the age of 10
@Darkstar64 ROFL ; so true, and possibly a time machine / a Cerebi to take Ash back to being 10 years old :o