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Title: Pokemon black and white...2
Post by: Desbear on February 26, 2012, 03:57:24 AM
Pokemon black and white 2 -_-

http://www.pokemon.com/us/pokemon-video-games/pokemon-black-version-2-and-pokemon-white-version-2/

WHAT THE HELL WERE YOU THINKING NINTENDO?!
Title: Re: Pokemon black and white...2
Post by: Deion1 on February 26, 2012, 04:01:17 AM
It's better than gray. They look beast
Title: Re: Pokemon black and white...2
Post by: Darkstar64 on February 26, 2012, 04:02:40 AM
Yeah, they have finally resorted to fusions.

They just don't get it.

It's better than gray. They look beast

They look beast? THEY LOOK BEAST?! GRAY would have been better than THIS!
Title: Re: Pokemon black and white...2
Post by: Aquashin on February 26, 2012, 04:03:49 AM
i know alot of people will hate me for this but people allways say that Sequences of games with number on it are never good... and this looks like an example of it... since Reshiram and Zekrom in the pics look like they fused with Kyurem...
Title: Re: Pokemon black and white...2
Post by: Desbear on February 26, 2012, 04:04:51 AM
It's better than gray. They look beast

Really dude? really?

I agree with all but deion.
Title: Re: Pokemon black and white...2
Post by: boyben10 on February 26, 2012, 04:06:07 AM
Pretty sure the "2" is just a temporary name.

I'd rather just have a single version though.
Title: Re: Pokemon black and white...2
Post by: Darkstar64 on February 26, 2012, 04:08:31 AM
i know alot of people will hate me for this but people allways say that Sequences of games with number on it are never good... and this looks like an example of it... since Reshiram and Zekrom in the pics look like they fused with Kyurem...

Not necessarily. There's...

...

Actually, none come to mind...But I know there's a couple at least.
Title: Re: Pokemon black and white...2
Post by: eddiedelta8 on February 26, 2012, 06:39:30 AM
Pokemon black and white 2 -_-

http://www.pokemon.com/us/pokemon-video-games/pokemon-black-version-2-and-pokemon-white-version-2/

WHAT THE HELL WERE YOU THINKING NINTENDO?!

what do you mean what were they thinking it seems like they ran out of idea when pokemon diamond/pearl/platinium came out


here is a little comic i found
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_7-9H8wNm7DM/S_YPBWoZIlI/AAAAAAAAAE4/QP1UKrbjyIc/s1600/starterpokemoncomic.gif (http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_7-9H8wNm7DM/S_YPBWoZIlI/AAAAAAAAAE4/QP1UKrbjyIc/s1600/starterpokemoncomic.gif)


though the Pokemon (zekrom and reshiram) look cool on the cover the other Pokemon in game are either the same as black and white(1) or are even more stupid which i doubt that they would even be able to make more Pokemon which they probably will or have resorted to fusing like an earlier post said and the only thing that freaked me out with anything before torchic,treeco,and mudkip was the sprite for squirtle in Pokemon red
Title: Re: Pokemon black and white...2
Post by: Mr.Dodo on February 26, 2012, 01:44:31 PM
Little more info: http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon_Black_and_White_Versions_2

When i first saw it i thought What tha chansey..
Title: Re: Pokemon black and white...2
Post by: lubbies on February 26, 2012, 02:23:25 PM
Zekrom looks quite nice but i mean what... The... ****
Title: Re: Pokemon black and white...2
Post by: Aquashin on February 26, 2012, 02:59:19 PM
Finnaly Nintendo hit rock bottom with these two games...
Title: Re: Pokemon black and white...2
Post by: Mr.Dodo on February 26, 2012, 03:10:58 PM
Zekrom looks quite nice but i mean what... The... ****

Thats not Zekrom, thats Black Kyurem
Title: Re: Pokemon black and white...2
Post by: John Flame on February 26, 2012, 03:43:38 PM
What....i dont....

I was...expecting gray....but this....
I believe,that this marks the pokémon series tombstone..

They say a men sees all his life go infront of his eyes when hes about to die....i'm having flashbacks of pokémon red :(
Title: Re: Pokemon black and white...2
Post by: lubbies on February 26, 2012, 03:47:16 PM
RIP Pokemon: the game that inspired people to do some pretty awesome stuff.

RIP John Flame: the person who died alongside Pokemon.
Title: Re: Pokemon black and white...2
Post by: Aquashin on February 26, 2012, 03:54:09 PM
I was...expecting gray....but this....
I believe,that this marks the pokémon series tombstone..

everyone was expecting Grey.... literaly everyone...

and yes, this is the end of Pokemon as we know it...
Title: Re: Pokemon black and white...2
Post by: John Flame on February 26, 2012, 04:02:38 PM
I can see all the story already...same storyline...but now.N's trying to collect the orb to empower Kyurem.
And you yourself,must get your orb...and fight him...possibly with the other form of Kyurem?

Ohh Nintendo...you should just have sticked with Gray,and the original Kyurem.This is the same crap as Giratina,it was fine.And then they gave him a crappy looking form.

Unless!That is isnt a remake...and is a sequel....´
N did go away flying last time.Cliffhanger.

But then again,he realized his errors.
*brain crash*
Title: Re: Pokemon black and white...2
Post by: Aquashin on February 26, 2012, 04:06:59 PM
if this is a sequel, i tell you, it will look better than a remake....
Title: Re: Pokemon black and white...2
Post by: Redtutel on February 26, 2012, 04:29:14 PM
Of course it's a remake. The third game in a generation has always been a money making gimmick. Know even more so (not that there's anything wrong with that).
I must say, this is not what anyone was expecting. Nice to see Nintendo/Gamefeak doing something different for a change. And I like Kyurem's two new forms. It makes sense considering This trio represents Yin and Yang.
Title: Re: Pokemon black and white...2
Post by: Mr.Dodo on February 26, 2012, 04:34:40 PM
Of course it's a remake. The third game in a generation has always been a money making gimmick. Know even more so (not that there's anything wrong with that).
I must say, this is not what anyone was expecting. Nice to see Nintendo/Gamefeak doing something different for a change. And I like Kyurem's two new forms. It makes sense considering This trio represents Yin and Yang.

Wrong this is not remake it s sequel to B/W games
Title: Re: Pokemon black and white...2
Post by: Hinagiku on February 26, 2012, 05:11:16 PM
http://pokemongray.com/
^That's been bought by Pokemon (not set up yet), but the same company is managing it for them that did all of their other official sites, so I'm still holding out hope.

This looks weird, but as long as they bring N back, I will probably buy it.
Yeah, I'm at least going to give it a try.
Title: Re: Pokemon black and white...2
Post by: Bing on February 26, 2012, 05:48:08 PM
Hmmmm... I don't get why you guys are all hating.  I don't mind the idea of black/white 2.  It'll be better than a gray.  I hated those.  This marks the fact that nintendo is starting to care about pokemon.  I'm sorry but, I love the idea of continuing the storyline, rather than just doing it again. 
Title: Re: Pokemon black and white...2
Post by: Deion1 on February 26, 2012, 06:47:46 PM
Thank you
Title: Re: Pokemon black and white...2
Post by: lubbies on February 26, 2012, 07:47:10 PM
That's dandy and all but there are problems

#1- what do you continue with?

#2 no more gyms cuz you've defeated them all.

#3 BOREDOM
Title: Re: Pokemon black and white...2
Post by: Darkstar64 on February 26, 2012, 07:50:46 PM
I'm all for story development and I'd love to see that more in pokemon games like they did in the Gamecube ones. But when they're ruining it with this:

(http://www.serebii.net/black2white2/kyurem1.png)(http://www.serebii.net/black2white2/kyurem2.png)

I just...man, what?!
Title: Re: Pokemon black and white...2
Post by: Mr.Dodo on February 26, 2012, 07:59:32 PM
I think this games will be good. Story in BW was let say good and if this games would continue that story it will be even better.
About gyms, i think every Gym Leader will use different Pokemon then in BW
I am going to buy Japanese version in June probbably Black2
Title: Re: Pokemon black and white...2
Post by: Jerry on February 26, 2012, 08:06:40 PM
I'll just call them 'Kyuram' and 'Kyurom' ;D
Title: Re: Pokemon black and white...2
Post by: Mr.Dodo on February 26, 2012, 08:13:48 PM
I'll just call them 'Kyuram' and 'Kyurom' ;D

Like it :D
Title: Re: Pokemon black and white...2
Post by: GoldenBurr on February 26, 2012, 08:20:40 PM
I don't understand all the hatred.  We've only seen two of the Pokemon there.  And if this is a 2 then that means the story will be different than the first, so obviously that means they thought of other things for you to do than play through the same story again.  And they must have gotten a completely new story to follow the past game's plot.  Perhaps you'll be a totally different character and you encounter Bianca, Cher, Hilda, and Hilbert.  From my memory, Resh and Zek were supposed to be Yin and Yang, while Kyurem represents the Void.  So perhaps in this game the "void" is taking over the realm?   Judging by all the ice in their banner thingy I'm guessing that everything is freezing over, etc.  Perhaps you'll be helping Kyurem in this task and you'll be playing the role of the corrupted hero that is trying to purify the world and end up freeing Kyurem to freeze of the world, but then realize your mistake and then must journey through a chaotic Unova to set things right?  The possibilities are out there for a very interesting game, and all we've gotten was a title and two pictures of new Kyurem forms to go off of that we don't find appealing, so the bashing begins before anyone could even consider how cool this game might actually be.
Title: Re: Pokemon black and white...2
Post by: Jerry on February 26, 2012, 08:24:48 PM
It's often like that, what can we do ::)

But I'll agree with you. More often than not, new things are shot down before anyone has actually seen or experienced what's inside. And in the end, the prejudice they already have, end up making them not like it. *shrug*
Title: Re: Pokemon black and white...2
Post by: Deion1 on February 26, 2012, 08:40:25 PM
I don't think this is the end of pokemon i think this is a new direction for pokemon
Title: Re: Pokemon black and white...2
Post by: Hinagiku on February 26, 2012, 09:08:32 PM
True enough. I did want to see much more of Unova and a storyline (which was already impressive to me).

But with prejudice, I find if I have a lower standard, I usually end up absolutely loving it...
Title: Re: Pokemon black and white...2
Post by: Darkstar64 on February 26, 2012, 09:08:52 PM
Again, I'm not saying the entire game is ruined, but it is a little...unoriginal. I mean, fusions? Come on! I just feel that the way they have this mentality that they have to have new pokemon in every new game is just annoying, because it feels like they don't know what they're doing anymore.

However, I do like the idea of story continuation instead of just some minor changes like Emerald and Platinum. This I am excited for.

But in the end, we're all gonna end up buying the game anyways.
Title: Re: Pokemon black and white...2
Post by: Tickles on February 26, 2012, 09:23:55 PM
Damn it. Franchise is dead. Fusions just seem gimicky, and how do you continue from there. I know no one finds Ghetsis, or however you spell his name, but to me, it's just going to be aweful. Stick to what works is my motto, and I do think the pokemon franchise is just going to flop after this.
Title: Re: Pokemon black and white...2
Post by: Mr.Dodo on February 26, 2012, 09:27:17 PM
Same.
I think that Gen 5 is the last :(
Title: Re: Pokemon black and white...2
Post by: NexosYourGayBestFriend96 on February 26, 2012, 09:35:23 PM
Agreed, and I think that that's their plan, cuz they're running out of ideas.
Title: Re: Pokemon black and white...2
Post by: Aquashin on February 26, 2012, 10:00:28 PM
they might say that those are just other forms of Kyurem, but to me they are completly Fusions to me and to more people
Title: Re: Pokemon black and white...2
Post by: John Flame on February 27, 2012, 08:23:45 AM
Agreed, and I think that that's their plan, cuz they're running out of ideas.

Huh.....this is a new idea.
Might work or not,ive got my bets on not.

But still,it's a new idea,and ideas happen in chain reactions quite often.
Title: Re: Pokemon black and white...2
Post by: Noah_Road on February 27, 2012, 12:55:05 PM
Why do I feel like I'm the only one who is super happy that they didn't come out with "Pokemon Gray" ?

This is exactly what gen 5 is about--change from the pace we're so used to. I loved how different Black and White were and I love how this isn't a remake but a direct sequel to those amazing games. Honestly, if Gamefreak kept doing the same pattern over and over again then it would get boring. They're finally changing pace and we should be a bit more open to this. I can't wait to see how they're gonna continue on from the B/W storyline. There were so many questions left unanswered and hopefully these games will shed some light on it. This means that Pokemon as a franchise may start to grow and evolve from what we're so used to. Now I do have to admit that I'm not too fond of Kyurem's new formes. I never liked Kyurem in the first place but I know I'll get over this because I'm pretty sure these formes will be booted straight to ubers in the competative metagame as soon as they're released....so I'll never have to look at them.

Heres to Gamfreak and Pokemon showing change and evolution!
Title: Re: Pokemon black and white...2
Post by: Jerry on February 27, 2012, 12:59:20 PM
Maybe that 'Pokemon Gray' will be released later on, mixing the current game and the sequel, and maybe even an additional sequel! :P

Who knows? We'll just have to wait and see :)

I'm not super enthusiastic about BW V2, but I am impatient about it, just like every other pokemon games in fact.
Title: Re: Pokemon black and white...2
Post by: Miss Wednesday on February 27, 2012, 04:10:36 PM
I kinda don't like the colors on them, but I know it'll be fun and ewoirfhwjriufhnw yeah stuff like that C: so I'm getting White 2 =w=
Title: Re: Pokemon black and white...2
Post by: Deion1 on February 27, 2012, 05:29:54 PM
Im gettin black 2
Title: Re: Pokemon black and white...2
Post by: Viper on February 27, 2012, 06:14:26 PM
Why do I feel like I'm the only one who is super happy that they didn't come out with "Pokemon Gray" ?

This is exactly what gen 5 is about--change from the pace we're so used to. I loved how different Black and White were and I love how this isn't a remake but a direct sequel to those amazing games. Honestly, if Gamefreak kept doing the same pattern over and over again then it would get boring. They're finally changing pace and we should be a bit more open to this. I can't wait to see how they're gonna continue on from the B/W storyline. There were so many questions left unanswered and hopefully these games will shed some light on it. This means that Pokemon as a franchise may start to grow and evolve from what we're so used to. Now I do have to admit that I'm not too fond of Kyurem's new formes. I never liked Kyurem in the first place but I know I'll get over this because I'm pretty sure these formes will be booted straight to ubers in the competative metagame as soon as they're released....so I'll never have to look at them.

Heres to Gamfreak and Pokemon showing change and evolution!

I agree with you, im excited for this new game. I dont understand how people keep saying nintendo is running out of new ideas and every new game is crap. Well this is a completely new idea! A sequel, they have never done that before. Plus im sure new forms of pokemon.
Title: Re: Pokemon black and white...2
Post by: eddiedelta8 on March 01, 2012, 02:23:13 AM
maybe there will be a feature so that you can use(copy) the Pokemon from the first one so it is like a continuation
or your Pokemon get stolen and your two rivals Pokemon get stolen.

your memory of your Pokemon is gone(so are your rivals) and every 3 pokemon you find you get to pick one(like every base making a total of at least 6 bases or 7 so it replaces gyms)

(oh and the Pokemon don't remember there masters) and you are on a quest to thwart ghesists plans once again and maybe having the assistance of N
and bla bla bla bla bla bla......

either way would be cool i guess but i bet that they will make you capture pokemon from level 5 at first to level 60 at the end

now that i think about it these games might not be so bad
Title: Re: Pokemon black and white...2
Post by: Tristan on March 01, 2012, 03:23:09 AM
Well, they have a great opportunity here to do something new, unique, and original compared to all of their past games. A sequel, and hell, there are a lot of ideas floating around about what it could be about. I just hope they actually do it, rather than remaking the games and having these two new Kyurem forms as the only real addition. I definitely like what the people defending the games have been saying, but I also understand the concept of "not getting my hopes up" with Nintendo. We can praise the possibilities of a sequel, but what if it is just another remake because "Pokemon Gray" sounded terrible? I'm just saying, my hopes aren't up too much just yet.
Title: Re: Pokemon black and white...2
Post by: Aquashin on March 01, 2012, 05:04:00 AM
well as long as it is realy a sequel, fine by me, but the ideia of Fusion of Kyurem with Zekrom or Reshiram and calling it Forms, its bull to me... looks like a badly made ideia...
Title: Re: Pokemon black and white...2
Post by: TheSolx on March 01, 2012, 06:20:10 AM
At this moment, I'm sitting at a smashed desk with my forehead full of splinters...

No, not really, but I would be happy to
Title: Re: Pokemon black and white...2
Post by: Noah_Road on March 01, 2012, 05:19:26 PM
I'm sure that the story about how Reshiram and Zekrom were once a single pokemon as told in the story will have something to do with Kyurem's new formes. Also notice how the mascots have switched; Zekrom now representing Black 2 (as opposed to White) and Reshiram representing Whtie 2 (as opposed to Black). If you remember, the dragon opposite to our games' mascot was taken by N. Maybe N is trying to find a way to oppose his biological/adopted/whatever father by using the dragon that he took.
Title: Re: Pokemon black and white...2
Post by: eddiedelta8 on March 02, 2012, 03:48:58 AM
Well, they have a great opportunity here to do something new, unique, and original compared to all of their past games. A sequel, and hell, there are a lot of ideas floating around about what it could be about. I just hope they actually do it, rather than remaking the games and having these two new Kyurem forms as the only real addition. I definitely like what the people defending the games have been saying, but I also understand the concept of "not getting my hopes up" with Nintendo. We can praise the possibilities of a sequel, but what if it is just another remake because "Pokemon Gray" sounded terrible? I'm just saying, my hopes aren't up too much just yet.


what i have underline is true there are two new forms of kyurem even though most of you have probably already seen it here is the link


http://www.pokemon.com/us/pokemon-video-games/pokemon-black-version-2-and-pokemon-white-version-2/ (http://www.pokemon.com/us/pokemon-video-games/pokemon-black-version-2-and-pokemon-white-version-2/)


read the first sentence of the second paragraph

maybe this game might be about kyurem taking over the legendary based off which game you get
but ya they look like fusions to me
Title: Re: Pokemon black and white...2
Post by: Rare Candy on March 02, 2012, 04:34:45 AM
Even if this is a remake, and it sucks (which I highly doubt it will because none of the pokemon games have disappointed me yet), I'll still buy it and play it and enjoy it wholeheartedly. Because I absolutely love Pokemon. Period. As far as everyone bashing on the only 2 released designs of the new game and talking about Pokemon has died, nintendo has run out of ideas, and the end is upon us, you guys need to calm down. 1.) they have thousands of people who work on these games and the possibilities of the human imagination are endless. 2.) before you freak out and start chugging your haterade, think about every single pokemon game ever released, and how there was so much speculation about them being terrible, or a sign of the pokemon apocalypse, and then it comes out, you get it and you're like OMGTHISISAWESOME:3 Assuming you're a die-hard pokemon fan (if you weren't you wouldn't be on this site anticipating the release of a pokemon MMO), you should have a little more faith.
Title: Re: Pokemon black and white...2
Post by: Hinagiku on March 02, 2012, 05:35:12 AM
Even if this is a remake, and it sucks (which I highly doubt it will because none of the pokemon games have disappointed me yet), I'll still buy it and play it and enjoy it wholeheartedly. Because I absolutely love Pokemon. Period. As far as everyone bashing on the only 2 released designs of the new game and talking about Pokemon has died, nintendo has run out of ideas, and the end is upon us, you guys need to calm down. 1.) they have thousands of people who work on these games and the possibilities of the human imagination are endless. 2.) before you freak out and start chugging your haterade, think about every single pokemon game ever released, and how there was so much speculation about them being terrible, or a sign of the pokemon apocalypse, and then it comes out, you get it and you're like OMGTHISISAWESOME:3 Assuming you're a die-hard pokemon fan (if you weren't you wouldn't be on this site anticipating the release of a pokemon MMO), you should have a little more faith.

You know what--hear, hear!
Title: Re: Pokemon black and white...2
Post by: NexosYourGayBestFriend96 on March 02, 2012, 01:26:53 PM
Even if this is a remake, and it sucks (which I highly doubt it will because none of the pokemon games have disappointed me yet), I'll still buy it and play it and enjoy it wholeheartedly. Because I absolutely love Pokemon. Period. As far as everyone bashing on the only 2 released designs of the new game and talking about Pokemon has died, nintendo has run out of ideas, and the end is upon us, you guys need to calm down. 1.) they have thousands of people who work on these games and the possibilities of the human imagination are endless. 2.) before you freak out and start chugging your haterade, think about every single pokemon game ever released, and how there was so much speculation about them being terrible, or a sign of the pokemon apocalypse, and then it comes out, you get it and you're like OMGTHISISAWESOME:3 Assuming you're a die-hard pokemon fan (if you weren't you wouldn't be on this site anticipating the release of a pokemon MMO), you should have a little more faith.

I second that notion, if we didn't love pokemon we wouldent be on this site, let's be at least a little patient.
Title: Re: Pokemon black and white...2
Post by: Noah_Road on March 02, 2012, 08:00:13 PM
Even if this is a remake, and it sucks (which I highly doubt it will because none of the pokemon games have disappointed me yet), I'll still buy it and play it and enjoy it wholeheartedly. Because I absolutely love Pokemon. Period. As far as everyone bashing on the only 2 released designs of the new game and talking about Pokemon has died, nintendo has run out of ideas, and the end is upon us, you guys need to calm down. 1.) they have thousands of people who work on these games and the possibilities of the human imagination are endless. 2.) before you freak out and start chugging your haterade, think about every single pokemon game ever released, and how there was so much speculation about them being terrible, or a sign of the pokemon apocalypse, and then it comes out, you get it and you're like OMGTHISISAWESOME:3 Assuming you're a die-hard pokemon fan (if you weren't you wouldn't be on this site anticipating the release of a pokemon MMO), you should have a little more faith.

I am agreeing with you 100% :D
Title: Re: Pokemon black and white...2
Post by: Rare Candy on March 03, 2012, 01:05:54 AM
 8)
Title: Re: Pokemon black and white...2
Post by: Tickles on March 03, 2012, 01:09:56 AM
8)

Please contribute to the topic, or don't post at all.

On topic, I will definitely try it out, and yes, it will be in biased, but I seriously think it's still going to flop. And even die-hard fans can find something disappointing, it doesn't make the whole franchise bad. Also, those that are here waiting for the game aren't even active in the first place, the ones that are active just like to be part of the conversations.
Title: Re: Pokemon black and white...2
Post by: TrainerX on March 03, 2012, 04:59:00 AM
I agree with Bing, Noah, and the other people who weren't jumping to conclusions just because of two pictures of Kyurem from a game we hardly know anything about. I mean seriously, I don't understand how you guys can tell that Pokemon is going to die because of two pictures.

So what if the legendaries are two fusions? If these are sequels (Just because it's Black and White 2 doesn't absolutely mean it's a remake with a couple of extra features), then they probably continue the story, and tell us what happened to N and Ghetsis. And I don't see how the Kyurem fusions just automatically ruin the game. Yes, it is an overused concept, but since we know nothing about them other than the fact that they're fusions, they could have taken the concept and at least changed it up a bit so that it's not as much of a "I've already seen this in other games" sort of thing.

And remember that Game Freak improved on their story-telling in the original Black and White. If they're improving that even more, Black and White 2 might actually have a decent storyline. Hell, it could be great for all we know (that sort of depends on the direction they go with this though).

I think you guys are completely overreacting. At least wait until we actually know more than two things about the game before you start criticizing it.
Title: Re: Pokemon black and white...2
Post by: Bing on March 03, 2012, 05:01:34 AM
Also, and I know it's off topic.  I hope that they release it for not just the 3DS (which in my opinion is a flop of a system.) But, for all the ds systems.  Cause I'm not gonna buy a 3DS ever.  But, I really want this game lol.
Title: Re: Pokemon black and white...2
Post by: Desbear on March 03, 2012, 06:14:47 AM
Its for the regular Ds.
Title: Re: Pokemon black and white...2
Post by: Jerry on March 03, 2012, 07:10:13 AM
Well, something else to remember is that there are some 'fusions' already in the list of pokemon.

Heard of Slowbro and Slowking? Or Mantine which has a Remoraid with it which somehow never leaves it?
Title: Re: Pokemon black and white...2
Post by: Aquashin on March 03, 2012, 07:24:44 AM
Well, something else to remember is that there are some 'fusions' already in the list of pokemon.

Heard of Slowbro and Slowking? Or Mantine which has a Remoraid with it which somehow never leaves it?

i might have to call u on that one

Shelder its key to help Slowpoke to evolve, it means they help each other as the shelder completly frogets its own use

Mantine has a remoraid under it because of nutrients, thats why Mantike its a smaller version of Mantine, that doesnt mean Remoraid help Mantike to evolve.
Title: Re: Pokemon black and white...2
Post by: Jerry on March 03, 2012, 07:26:27 AM
Yea, but it's like they're together after the evolution of Mantyke. Plus you do in fact need to have a Remoraid in your party of Mantyke to evolve into Matine. Though the Remoraid doesn't disappear after Mantyke evolves.
Title: Re: Pokemon black and white...2
Post by: Aquashin on March 03, 2012, 08:00:59 AM
Exactly, Mantike needs Remoraid's help but the Remoraid doesnt disapear, same thing between Shelmet and Karrablast, they help each other evolve but its not called fusions becaus ewhen one evolve the other doesnt disappear, its more like they take each other's properties and evolve, for example, Karrablast takes the property of Shelmet that looks like a steel type but isnt and turns into Escavalier that is Bug and Steel. In Shelmet's side, it takes Karrablast property of being Bug type to evolve into a a much better Bug type, Accelgor, (this is what i think) because of Karrablast influence, Shelmet gets rid of its shell to evolve into Accelgor. Same goes with Karrablast, it gets Shelmet influence of having a hard shell to become Escavalier
Title: Re: Pokemon black and white...2
Post by: Jerry on March 03, 2012, 12:51:17 PM
Shellder doesn't really lose it's use more than Reshiram, Zekrom or Kyurem lose its use after they have fused. The Shellder provides Slowbro more power and even helps it to be faster moving. In the case of Slowking, it provides 'Slowpoke' with a substance which supposedly makes it more intelligent.

Isn't fusion about two entities combining to yield a more powerful entity? Isn't what happened here?

If not for the metagame, it could have been that you require the two pokemon and they both disappear when they 'fuse' to give the final product.

It could be the same with Kyurom and Kyuram, in the sense that you need not have both Kyurem and Zekrom/Reshiram disappear in your party to give rise to Kyurom and Kyuram, but just a mere transfomation in the presence of the other. All we know for now is that Kyurom and Kyuram are formes of Kyurem, while they do look like a fusion. Would the fact that the two don't disappear in your party to give their respective formes mean that they Kyurom and Kyuram aren't fusions?

If that is the case when we know more about the sequels of BW, then you are yourself saying that they are not fusions.
Title: Re: Pokemon black and white...2
Post by: Aquashin on March 03, 2012, 04:01:23 PM
i wont say that they are exactly fusions, what i mean is that the sprite they came up with to make them, its the fusion of Reshiram/Zekrom's sprite with Kyurem's sprite.
Title: Re: Pokemon black and white...2
Post by: lubbies on March 03, 2012, 05:15:38 PM
They could be transformations of kyurem because zekrom is just going to dissapear.
Title: Re: Pokemon black and white...2
Post by: GoldenBurr on March 03, 2012, 06:19:55 PM
Kyurem could just be stealing their appearance for it's own purposes.  They are very symbolic Pokemon after all, and VERY improtant to the plot of Black and White.  Not going to say exactly how so seeing as I hate spoilers... but I'm sure that if Kyurem took the shape of one he'd have people bowing at his feet as if he was one of them.  After all, people in the games are apparently easy to dupe when it comes to appearances.  "Oh hey, a pokeb- oh gawd Electrode!"
Title: Re: Pokemon black and white...2
Post by: Aquashin on March 03, 2012, 10:22:27 PM
After all, people in the games are apparently easy to dupe when it comes to appearances.  "Oh hey, a pokeb- oh gawd Electrode!"

that would be funny as hell if in the anime was like that, Ash would jump scared 10 meters
Title: Re: Pokemon black and white...2
Post by: GoldenBurr on March 03, 2012, 10:58:56 PM
Anime is kinda already like that...  *cough cough* Team rocket is never recognized in their many horrible disguises *cough cough*

But on subject I think that Kyurem is just molding it's shape to reflect the appearance of the two legendary dragons.  Its powers aren't really explained in game if I'm right, and I haven't seen it in any movies, so I'm pretty sure he can do some crazy things that haven't been revealed yet. Either that or Kyurem molds to the shape of the counter for the color of the game to where there is always a balance in Yin and Yang.  The possibilities are endless, and right now we're left to let our minds wonder of what the game holds in store for us all.

Also... I like the forms.  They look pretty cool in my opinion.  They have this look of corruption about them that just appeals to me.
Title: Re: Pokemon black and white...2
Post by: BlazingApollo on April 13, 2012, 03:32:53 PM
Ahem, sorry for necromancing, but I've got some information about this Pokemon Black/White 2 game.
I don't know if you guys already know about this or not... well, I hope not  ;D

(http://multiply.com/mu/navilink47/image/1/photos/upload/1200x1200/T4eGLgooCpQAABoEfdM1/pokemon-black-2.png?et=UKeoJlheohff6zhIAO8nqQ&nmid=0)
Now I'm listing Black Kyurem as one of the coolest pokemon that ever existed.

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Oh yeah, some leaked stuff:


The games are true sequels, taking place two years after the originals (Black/White).


The Unova region sports new towns, buildings, locations, and Gym Leaders. New subway lines will take you to new places.
Half of the Unova map is covered by ice for unknown reasons.


The Pokedex features 300 Pokemon from every generation. So far, Psyduck is #026, Riolu is #033, Metagross is #254, and Eevee is confirmed but has an unknown Dex number.
(http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ8Xs7TYgnELYrRQ3AtmjvTlr-0PS1f-52jt1fZFYfiqf3ywQKOyg)


Black Kyurem is confirmed to know Freeze Shock and White Kyurem is confirmed to know Ice Burn (wait, what?).


There are two new protagonists along with a new rival. The rival has text saying, "Now I'm gonna get angry!" He's the boy with the blue spiky hair. He is your childhood friend.
(http://www.pkparaiso.com/noticias/8460/282623691.jpg)


Homika is a new Poison-type Gym Leader. She's the girl holding the guitar. She is going to be in an episode of the show in June.
Shizui is also a new Gym Leader who uses Water Pokemon. He's the tan guy with the goggles (not really visible in this pic).
(http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSEI8fKB3ov8TACBkpPRZVmH80x1l2L3Jjw5NKsAkkSHnEFCykF)
(http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcScPp_gdV3V7Co2ykqnO9D4hx2Bq6LZZvWi6p-E2i2EgFpe24IFRw)


There is a new "mysterious guy" named Akuroma who is studying Pokemon strength. Sometimes he'll help you on your journey. He's a guy with glasses, wearing white coat, and an epic hairstyle (I'm guessing this guy is the main antagonist).
(http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2ebx6ScPL1qbd7mv.jpg)


You begin your journey in Hiougi City. It is on the map in an area that was previously uninhabited in the original games on the left side of Unova (the southwest side). It features an underwater tunnel made of glass (still unknown if it takes you to the main region). The city also sports a Pokemon Center, a Trainer School, and shops.


There is new construction in the Resort Desert and that there is a new building with red and blue decorations.

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Okay, I guess that's all for now. The source:
http://pokebeach.com (http://pokebeach.com)
Now I'm really looking forward to this game.
And for PU members, what do you guys think about this Pokemon Black/White Version 2!?
Epic? Or it is still fail?



Thanks for reading,
Handsome-guy-named-BlazingApollo
Title: Re: Pokemon black and white...2
Post by: Jerry on April 13, 2012, 08:33:09 PM
Ehh, sorry ahead on you on that one ;D

But you really never heard of ice burns?
Title: Re: Pokemon black and white...2
Post by: John Flame on April 13, 2012, 09:43:08 PM
After looking at the new protagonists....herp derp.
Dat male hair!

And unova is half covered in ice?
This means that there will be more snowy areas.
Wich problably means we will have DPP's deep snow system.
Wich will make me....*nuke*
Title: Re: Pokemon black and white...2
Post by: BlazingApollo on April 14, 2012, 02:11:50 AM
But you really never heard of ice burns?

If you're talking about Kyurem's signature move, I've heard them before.
But... Ice that burns? Nah, it's like Hot Iced Tea, which contains contradiction.
Title: Re: Pokemon black and white...2
Post by: Desbear on April 14, 2012, 03:25:11 AM
Not really! somethings can get so cold it burns to touch them! or is it that something can get so hot it feels liek its cold...
Title: Re: Pokemon black and white...2
Post by: Hinagiku on April 14, 2012, 03:34:34 AM
Or the salt and ice trick. .__.

And I'm still looking forward to this game!! :D
Title: Re: Pokemon black and white...2
Post by: dreadknight on April 14, 2012, 04:10:42 AM
Or the salt and ice trick. .__.

Or freezer burn.  ;D


And I'm still looking forward to this game!! :D

Heh, I imagine we all are.
Title: Re: Pokemon black and white...2
Post by: DarK_SouL on April 14, 2012, 05:36:06 PM
At first it sounded to me like another Nintendo is running out of ideas thing. But now with the Corocoro scans with new trainers new locations, still Unova, and some old Pokemon? I'm pretty excited. Don't like the new trainer designs that much, but everything can't be perfect. Still looking forward to it. And it actually sounds like Nintendo is thinking outside the box like usual.
Title: Re: Pokemon black and white...2
Post by: Jerry on April 14, 2012, 06:21:25 PM
Or the salt and ice trick. .__.
[...]

I thought I was the only one who knew that for a moment XD
Title: Re: Pokemon black and white...2
Post by: Hinagiku on April 14, 2012, 07:05:56 PM
Actually I just had another conversation about it the day before. It's kinda scary, because it sounds so simple and harmless. "Oh, it's just salt, and ice, what could it really do?"
Apparently one girl did it along her whole arm thinking it was a beauty treatment. o__e
Title: Re: Pokemon black and white...2
Post by: TriforceMaster on April 29, 2012, 03:03:50 PM
Looks like an epic game to me.
Title: Re: Pokemon black and white...2
Post by: The-Blades-slave on April 30, 2012, 01:41:24 AM
one of two things could happen with this

1. could be a decent.

2. could completely finish destroying pokemon in one fell swoop.

I am remaining indifferent.
Title: Re: Pokemon black and white...2
Post by: Desbear on April 30, 2012, 01:42:43 AM
you know, it might not be so bad having a sequel to a pokemon game now that I think about it, but still, there is still teh chance of failing.
Title: Re: Pokemon black and white...2
Post by: The-Blades-slave on April 30, 2012, 01:44:35 AM
Well your right as I'm sure its already been said before this is something new so maybe....
Title: Re: Pokemon black and white...2
Post by: Desbear on April 30, 2012, 01:45:52 AM
still though, the legendary pi** be off, There fusions.
Title: Re: Pokemon black and white...2
Post by: The-Blades-slave on April 30, 2012, 01:47:31 AM
Its like Zekrom and Reshiram wearing Kyurem as armor.
Title: Re: Pokemon black and white...2
Post by: Noah_Road on April 30, 2012, 02:20:45 AM
Its like Zekrom and Reshiram wearing Kyurem as armor.

Its been confirmed that its not a fusion of Reshiram/Zekrom + Kyurem. Its only one very mad Kyurem. I'm pretty sure this proves my point of Kyurem being the original dragon before spliting into Reshiram and Zekrom. This would mean that Kyurem has the DNA and capabilites of both ying-yang dragons; explaining why the formes look so similar.
Title: Re: Pokemon black and white...2
Post by: The-Blades-slave on April 30, 2012, 02:23:21 AM
Its like Zekrom and Reshiram wearing Kyurem as armor.

Its been confirmed that its not a fusion of Reshiram/Zekrom + Kyurem. Its only one very mad Kyurem. I'm pretty sure this proves my point of Kyurem being the original dragon before spliting into Reshiram and Zekrom. This would mean that Kyurem has the DNA and capabilites of both ying-yang dragons; explaining why the formes look so similar.
Ohhhh
Title: Re: Pokemon black and white...2
Post by: Pokemaster MAC on May 15, 2012, 05:40:17 AM
It could be like some situation with the pokemon Nincada, Ninjask, and Shedinja but more involved.

Dragon A has 2 heads. it split and became Dragons B and C. In all the commotion, nobody noticed the cold empty husk left behind, which had parts of Dragons B and C still within it, and it came to life became filled with Ice from being left in a cold dark cave and became it's own entity, but somehow retaining a sort of physical memory of it's former life. In a sense it's not a fusion, but a reunion of DNA from being split into separate entities, coming in contact with itself. JUST a theory mind you...


Now I propose a better question...


What types are his forms?

Same as Resh/Zek

OR

Mutation of types and is like Ice/Fire and Ice/Electric?

Also, will the forms have the same abilities? Teravolt? Reshiram's? Pressure?
Title: Re: Pokemon black and white...2
Post by: Yume Tsuki on May 15, 2012, 09:01:50 AM
I have some points to add about Black & White 2:

- The place where you start your adventure will be an city.
- Black & White 2 take place one year after the events that happened in the previous black & White games
- You start off with a diffrent trainer.
Title: Re: Pokemon black and white...2
Post by: Danielp152 on May 15, 2012, 10:49:35 AM
I Just wanna Summarise this game for the stuff that has Leeched/Released from Nintendo.

1. You are a DIFFERENT PERSON. The other character could be the newest champion(s)?

2. The game is based 2 years After the Events of Pokemon Black And White Versions.

3. The Player starts in a town called Hiougi City.

4. There has been Discussions about New pokemon, as this hasnt been confirmed, "Good game Spawn Point" Released a Statment saying there was.

5. There will Most Definetly be 8 NEW Gyms, The other ones could have possibly be retired or they could have all Been encased in ice or something? I have no clue.

6. As ALOT of you know the region is Particially covered in ice, it is unknown whether the Preveiwed map was from more further in the story line or at the start.

7. New parts of the Map are accessable.

8. Finally my last Point,  You gain benifits if you are playing one of the two Versions on a Nintendo 3DS However you don't need to.
Title: Re: Pokemon black and white...2
Post by: Jerry on May 15, 2012, 11:08:22 AM
Quote from: Serebii
First, it confirms Alder will appear early on within the game and asks the player to follow him

Cheren is a Normal-type Gym Leader while Bianca gives you your starter Pokémon as a favour for Juniper

Nobody seems to know where N has gone

New Professor is Professor Burnett who is in AR Searcher

Tornadus, Thundurus and Landorus original forms are Incarnation Forme. Their new forms are Sacred Beast Forme. They are 198, 199 and 200 in the Unova Dex and have no type changes

Tornadus' Sacred Beast Forme focuses on Defense, Speed & Special Defense. It is 1.4m and weighs 63.0kg

Thundurus' Sacred Beast Forme has increased Special Attack. It is 3.0m and weighs 61.0kg

Landorus' Sacred Beast Forme has increased Attack. It is 1.3m and weighs 68.0kg

Mecha Tyranitar is part of PokéWood. Icirrus City Gym Leader Brycen appears, has a confrontation with Homika's father who wants to be a movie star, and is part of PokéWood. PokéWood allows you to select a scenario and then make the movie. Various battles appear

Pokémon World Tournament allows you to battle many of the old Gym Leaders and Champions including those listed yesterday and Janine & Blaine. We're still in the process of translating so keep checking back
Title: Re: Pokemon black and white...2
Post by: Pokemaster MAC on May 15, 2012, 06:37:49 PM
Also serebii.net has some photos and stuff to see if you haven't been there to see just about everything of Pokemon B/W2