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Title: Website offline and future of PU
Post by: Mr_Dark on June 22, 2015, 02:10:18 pm
Website Offline / Server Crash
Last Thursday one of the hard disks in my server failed which caused the website to load very slowly or not at all. Unfortunately I was away for the weekend and was unable to fix it, but now (as you can see) the website is back online.



Future of Pokemon Universe
Since almost nobody is working on the game anymore, I'm open to suggestions on what to do with the website. If you have a nice idea for a (Pokemon related) website which fits our name (Pokemon Universe), feel free to post it in this topic or send me an e-mail.

As it stands now, the website is just a waste of money and bandwidth.

- On average the website still gets about 100 unique visitors each day
- The website still ranks high in search results related to "Pokemon"
- I'll be willing to "sponsor" the domain and website hosting, so you'll only be in charge of the website itself.
- The new website can be a reformat of the site we currently have or something completely new

Let me know if you have any questions or if something is not clear.
Title: Re: Website offline and future of PU
Post by: Nivida on June 22, 2015, 04:50:22 pm
Hay MrDark,

I stay online here 4 years or more..
In this time a have made a apprenticeship as computer science (programming) in Switzerland.
Now I Work on a project called: www.ganked.net

When its done.. i will made a Canvas Pokemon Online for my portfolio but i havent any graphics..
Maybe you wanna send me the PU graphics for my freetime project?

Greez Sam
Title: Re: Website offline and future of PU
Post by: Embertine on June 23, 2015, 08:05:06 pm
I am severely dissapointed in this. I had been waiting for sooo very long to get to play the game. I'm sure if you had only released a working beta for people to play online on, than this project may very well have gone much further than this.

I wish That this was finished.  :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Website offline and future of PU
Post by: spartandc on June 25, 2015, 11:24:21 pm
I am severely dissapointed in this. I had been waiting for sooo very long to get to play the game. I'm sure if you had only released a working beta for people to play online on, than this project may very well have gone much further than this.

I wish That this was finished.  :'( :'( :'(

I agree, i have been following this sense back in 2009, it could have come to become a great thing and it is very sad to see it go. Sadly things happen and i understand that, but even so i still have at least some hope this game will be made. I dont want to pressure anyone but hey, even if the game didn't and doesn't get made at least we got to meet some very amazing people. Here is to hoping everything somehow works out and this game becomes a thing again! Even if it doesn't i hope that everyone who has been on here has a great life and will continue to have a great life from here onward!
Title: Re: Website offline and future of PU
Post by: Mr_Dark on June 26, 2015, 10:16:37 am
I am severely dissapointed in this. I had been waiting for sooo very long to get to play the game. I'm sure if you had only released a working beta for people to play online on, than this project may very well have gone much further than this.

I wish That this was finished.  :'( :'( :'(
I agree, i have been following this sense back in 2009, it could have come to become a great thing and it is very sad to see it go. Sadly things happen and i understand that, but even so i still have at least some hope this game will be made. I dont want to pressure anyone but hey, even if the game didn't and doesn't get made at least we got to meet some very amazing people. Here is to hoping everything somehow works out and this game becomes a thing again! Even if it doesn't i hope that everyone who has been on here has a great life and will continue to have a great life from here onward!

Over the years we've worked on PU with great enthusiasm, but we had a lot of set backs - mainly regarding art. Of course we could have used sprites from the original games, but we were too proud because we didn't want to be like all the other games. Looking back at it, it would have been better to use the original art and then later upgrade it, but yea, we were young back then and didn't knew better.

Time passed by and more people on team started to lose interest in the game, Pokemon in general or maybe they (like me and Urmel) graduated and started working full-time. I work full-time as a developer and even if I wanted to I can't find the motivation at night to code on some other project (even thou I have a couple going on). I'd rather load up Guild Wars 2 and play that for a while before heading to bed (btw, I'm also guild leader of one of the bigger PvE guilds in GW2 - 400 members).

Anyway back on topic. In the last 2 years or so I've tried to re-ignite the spark and get this game going again, but failed due to lack of time and people. For those who think it's easy to run a project like this. It's not. From the front it might seem easy but there's a lot going on behind the curtains which you never get to witness.

Everyone who ever worked on this project did this for free because they liked the idea and wanted to donate some of their free time.
I'm very grateful to everyone I've worked with and met during this project.
Title: Re: Website offline and future of PU
Post by: Ursaring on June 27, 2015, 03:27:45 am
So it has happened then. Well this has been a long time coming I would say. I loved playing on the balance server when it was still going ,and I learned so much their from Roloc and the others about competitive pokemon. Hope the site gets turned into something decent!
Title: Re: Website offline and future of PU
Post by: Monzta on June 27, 2015, 02:51:20 pm
Over the years we've worked on PU with great enthusiasm, but we had a lot of set backs - mainly regarding art. Of course we could have used sprites from the original games, but we were too proud because we didn't want to be like all the other games. Looking back at it, it would have been better to use the original art and then later upgrade it, but yea, we were young back then and didn't knew better.

Time passed by and more people on team started to lose interest in the game, Pokemon in general or maybe they (like me and Urmel) graduated and started working full-time. I work full-time as a developer and even if I wanted to I can't find the motivation at night to code on some other project (even thou I have a couple going on). I'd rather load up Guild Wars 2 and play that for a while before heading to bed (btw, I'm also guild leader of one of the bigger PvE guilds in GW2 - 400 members).

Anyway back on topic. In the last 2 years or so I've tried to re-ignite the spark and get this game going again, but failed due to lack of time and people. For those who think it's easy to run a project like this. It's not. From the front it might seem easy but there's a lot going on behind the curtains which you never get to witness.

Everyone who ever worked on this project did this for free because they liked the idea and wanted to donate some of their free time.
I'm very grateful to everyone I've worked with and met during this project.

Well then.  I guess that's a farewell. It was fun entering this community as a pre-pubescent child, and leaving as a university student. Much lolz were had.

Maybe you could donate ownership of the Dropbox group and all of its content to some developers on reddit or some other forum?

If anyone wants to keep in contact with me, my Steam username is sjert, or you can add my skype shown in my signature :)
Title: Re: Website offline and future of PU
Post by: TrainerX on June 28, 2015, 02:08:59 am
Even though I was an edgy, annoying 12 year old when I joined, I still have fond memories of this forum. I met some really awesome people, learned some valuable lessons, and had a lot of fun. I'm not going to lie; this community definitely had its ups and downs, but I'm really going to miss this place.

Also, I want to thank the PU Team. You guys have gotten a lot of shit over the years, and a lot of people didn't really appreciate all of the work that you guys have put into this project. Thanks for dedicating so much of your own time to developing this game. You guys are awesome.
Title: Re: Website offline and future of PU
Post by: Roloc on June 28, 2015, 02:25:35 am
So it has happened then. Well this has been a long time coming I would say. I loved playing on the balance server when it was still going ,and I learned so much their from Roloc and the others about competitive pokemon. Hope the site gets turned into something decent!

I'd actually still have it running if more people got on. I had been thinking about starting a normal server but keep the PU name so that more people would join since the balanced pokemon wasn't to interesting to most competitive players.
Title: Re: Website offline and future of PU
Post by: Miss Wednesday on June 28, 2015, 02:32:27 am
My life literally started because of this project, thank you for starting it even though it will most likely never be a game, I'd like to thank you, if it wasn't for Pokemon-Universe I wouldn't be with Roloc and we wouldn't have 2 awesome boys, I'll never forget how my family started <3
Title: Re: Website offline and future of PU
Post by: Roloc on June 28, 2015, 05:05:02 am
My life literally started because of this project, thank you for starting it even though it will most likely never be a game, I'd like to thank you, if it wasn't for Pokemon-Universe I wouldn't be with Roloc and we wouldn't have 2 awesome boys, I'll never forget how my family started <3

This is why I hate to see PU go. My life is forever better because of my fiancé and I meeting on here.
Title: Re: Website offline and future of PU
Post by: The-Blades-slave on June 28, 2015, 08:16:04 pm
I think most people saw this coming a while ago. In terms of what to do with the site, I've personally got no idea; for a while, it was pretty much just a forum for roleplaying, but most of us lost interest. Other than that, it's always just been a chat forum (at least in my days), and I can't see how that could change. Most likely because I'm an uncreative, unoriginal jackass.

Roloc, if you ever start a regular server make sure to tell me somehow. I could drag Meowth and Cortex on occasionally, and I'll probably use it a lot myself. How often actually depends on if I can find someone to hire me, but I'll still have a decent amount of free time.

To everyone else, it was nice talking to those of you I met. A lot of you quit just about the time I started because of some reason or another (I thought I heard something about someone though the forum had gone to poop, but people may have just gotten bored), but it was still enjoyable reading your old posts in forums and RPs. This place got me through a point in my life that wasn't exactly the brightest, and I'll always owe it that much. It also turned me into a decently intelligent teenager, instead of some illiterate brat who thought he could write lol.
Title: Re: Website offline and future of PU
Post by: Mr_Dark on June 28, 2015, 09:39:45 pm
I understand this is hard for some (myself included), because we've been through a lot. The easy way out would be to let the site continue as a Pokemon community. We'd just remove all the MMO related pages and forum boards. Then we'd assign some new Admins who're going to advertise and run the site.

What I read in your replies is that the new pokemon-universe.com could focus on General pokemon chit chat, role playing and the balance server. It would probably not attract the big crowd, but just the people who are interested in RPing or playing competitive pokemon.

Might not be much, but atleast the site will not go away.
Title: Re: Website offline and future of PU
Post by: Yume Tsuki on June 29, 2015, 12:39:36 am
Though I seem like the most sustainable pixel artist around here. I could not bring up any motivation to work on the project at all. :/

When I started here for the first time, we had quite a bunch of pixel artists. I was very motivated and submitted a lot of work. Then the whole pixel art section died, and there were no more pixel artists except me. I have done a few things to try and get pixel artists here, but I never got any answer of sorts. Then Bryan came along who went to rally up whatever was left of the pixel artist crew. And apparently I was the only one to answer, then all the art we had got scrapped since we had a better pixel artist who knew what he was doing. (A lot of the pixel art work couldn't be called pixelart for the fact that textures were cheated up with photoshop.) and I got pushed in the section of coming up with designs for characters since the design a trainer contest, which was meant to get a bunch of active pixelartists from the pool of the PU community, giving people some self-esteem that they can actually do it. New pixelartist didn't really stay that long, and eventually bryan barely had any time either because of personal issues. And I didn't really feel like doing NPC's because I HATE animating things for it's repetitiveness.

I've seen things livening up just to see it shizzle into nothingness again. And nothing really motivated me to be working on the project. I had some short sparks, but they were really short. And it never really helped when I did a call-out for help without any answer to it.

Then again, I never minded being here. I had my own share of fun. And it was great until it couldn't last. Though I would certainly agree to make this forum into a community instead of a game, it would be a shame to shut it down while there are many memories lasting here. And this forum hasn't died out at all yet. We just need some more stuff to talk about except for just RP's and how the game is not going to ever be released.

Title: Re: Website offline and future of PU
Post by: Flynt on June 29, 2015, 07:02:55 am
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Title: Re: Website offline and future of PU
Post by: TrainerX on June 29, 2015, 08:47:59 am
I understand this is hard for some (myself included), because we've been through a lot. The easy way out would be to let the site continue as a Pokemon community. We'd just remove all the MMO related pages and forum boards. Then we'd assign some new Admins who're going to advertise and run the site.

What I read in your replies is that the new pokemon-universe.com could focus on General pokemon chit chat, role playing and the balance server. It would probably not attract the big crowd, but just the people who are interested in RPing or playing competitive pokemon.

Might not be much, but atleast the site will not go away.
Hopefully somebody with enough free time and dedication will take over and get things up and running. Despite the fact that PU gets 100 unique visitors a day, it's been dead for quite a long time now. Changing up things on the forum might stir up some activity, but that alone isn't going to be enough. I doubt many of the old members are going to return, so whoever takes over will probably need to think of a few ways to attract new members.

I think a big problem is that forums don't seem to be very popular anymore(Although, there are definitely at least a few exceptions. Maybe they haven't died out as much as I think they have; I haven't really been keeping an eye out for active forums.) Sites like Reddit have become extremely popular, and that seems to be one of the go-to options for most people who are looking for an online community. I think people are probably more likely to look for a Pokemon-related subreddit or something than to do search for a Pokemon forum. I think some self-advertising of some sort will probably be required.

Don't get me wrong though, I think it's possible to make this place active again; it's just going to need a lot of work and dedication.
Title: Re: Website offline and future of PU
Post by: Flynt on June 29, 2015, 11:46:33 am
Hopefully somebody with enough free time and dedication will take over and get things up and running. Despite the fact that PU gets 100 unique visitors a day, it's been dead for quite a long time now. Changing up things on the forum might stir up some activity, but that alone isn't going to be enough. I doubt many of the old members are going to return, so whoever takes over will probably need to think of a few ways to attract new members.

I think a big problem is that forums don't seem to be very popular anymore(Although, there are definitely at least a few exceptions. Maybe they haven't died out as much as I think they have; I haven't really been keeping an eye out for active forums.) Sites like Reddit have become extremely popular, and that seems to be one of the go-to options for most people who are looking for an online community. I think people are probably more likely to look for a Pokemon-related subreddit or something than to do search for a Pokemon forum. I think some self-advertising of some sort will probably be required.

Don't get me wrong though, I think it's possible to make this place active again; it's just going to need a lot of work and dedication.
If we had "dedication", the game would have been released by now.
Title: Re: Website offline and future of PU
Post by: The-Blades-slave on June 29, 2015, 01:44:15 pm
Hopefully somebody with enough free time and dedication will take over and get things up and running. Despite the fact that PU gets 100 unique visitors a day, it's been dead for quite a long time now. Changing up things on the forum might stir up some activity, but that alone isn't going to be enough. I doubt many of the old members are going to return, so whoever takes over will probably need to think of a few ways to attract new members.

I think a big problem is that forums don't seem to be very popular anymore(Although, there are definitely at least a few exceptions. Maybe they haven't died out as much as I think they have; I haven't really been keeping an eye out for active forums.) Sites like Reddit have become extremely popular, and that seems to be one of the go-to options for most people who are looking for an online community. I think people are probably more likely to look for a Pokemon-related subreddit or something than to do search for a Pokemon forum. I think some self-advertising of some sort will probably be required.

Don't get me wrong though, I think it's possible to make this place active again; it's just going to need a lot of work and dedication.

This pretty much expresses my opinion on the matter. I'd be willing to help in any way possible, but my time is more limited than it used to be and in the end, I'm just a moderator for the roleplaying section. My experience running a site is limited to that, and even then, by the time I took over for Jerry they weren't nearly as active. I can think of a few ideas on things we could do, however.

1.) Roloc, if I understood correctly, said he would be willing to put a Pokemon Online server up. If we could get that up and running, that was enough to keep the forums alive for a while. It gave us something to converse about in the random chats, and it made it easier to check up on each other. If we could actually get enough people interested, we could possibly organize some form of tournament like we used to do. Hell, we could probably even offer rewards; I don't have a 3DS anymore at the moment, but once I get one, I'd be willing to farm/give away shinies as prizes.

2.) Get rid of the MMO part of the site. Half the reason people leave is they get on, see it's advertising a game, and then see it's not out. They either leave after that, or look around to see how long it's going to take. When they see the latest topics, they abandon it because there's going to be no game— if we clarify the game is no longer in the works and that this is just a forum for Pokemon, it might get some people to stick around. Not sure, but it's an idea.

If we had "dedication", the game would have been released by now.

We had dedication, from what I understand. A large majority of the game was done, but this was just a hobby in the end. To my knowledge, a lot of the people who worked on the game were semi-experienced people (ex. Mr. Dark and Urmel) who actually went on to get full-time jobs with what they were doing, and didn't want to come home and work after that. Even more, several problems were encountered and when you lose a bunch of the work you did for free, you lose motivation.
Title: Re: Website offline and future of PU
Post by: Flynt on June 29, 2015, 02:12:36 pm
This pretty much expresses my opinion on the matter. I'd be willing to help in any way possible, but my time is more limited than it used to be and in the end, I'm just a moderator for the roleplaying section. My experience running a site is limited to that, and even then, by the time I took over for Jerry they weren't nearly as active. I can think of a few ideas on things we could do, however.

1.) Roloc, if I understood correctly, said he would be willing to put a Pokemon Online server up. If we could get that up and running, that was enough to keep the forums alive for a while. It gave us something to converse about in the random chats, and it made it easier to check up on each other. If we could actually get enough people interested, we could possibly organize some form of tournament like we used to do. Hell, we could probably even offer rewards; I don't have a 3DS anymore at the moment, but once I get one, I'd be willing to farm/give away shinies as prizes.

2.) Get rid of the MMO part of the site. Half the reason people leave is they get on, see it's advertising a game, and then see it's not out. They either leave after that, or look around to see how long it's going to take. When they see the latest topics, they abandon it because there's going to be no game— if we clarify the game is no longer in the works and that this is just a forum for Pokemon, it might get some people to stick around. Not sure, but it's an idea.

We had dedication, from what I understand. A large majority of the game was done, but this was just a hobby in the end. To my knowledge, a lot of the people who worked on the game were semi-experienced people (ex. Mr. Dark and Urmel) who actually went on to get full-time jobs with what they were doing, and didn't want to come home and work after that. Even more, several problems were encountered and when you lose a bunch of the work you did for free, you lose motivation.
1. If a large majority of the game is done, why not release a beta version and give rewards like rare shinys for submitting character designs and maps. The beta doesn't have to include too many maps. Just a way way for players to battle would be fine for now. Then we won't have to remove mmo part of the website
2.If a beta version can't be released then, like you said, a pokemon online server would be more than enough to keep the forums alive. I'll be online most of the time.
PU has given me a lot. I learned so many new things and got to meet you all through pu.Pu is the reason i don't use legendaries and stealth rock.I learned the abc of competitive battling from pu. If there is anything i can do for pu, just let me know. I'll be more than happy to help.
Title: Re: Website offline and future of PU
Post by: Yume Tsuki on June 29, 2015, 04:53:16 pm
I am not sure if we can satisfy people with what we have right now as a beta. A bunch of things had been scrapped to try over but then got laid down to work on later.
Title: Re: Website offline and future of PU
Post by: Flynt on June 29, 2015, 07:09:12 pm
I am not sure if we can satisfy people with what we have right now as a beta. A bunch of things had been scrapped to try over but then got laid down to work on later.
Then our best bet would be to put a PO server up (For now).Btw what do you think should we remove the mmo section completely or should we keep a thread to invite more pixel artists (for future)?
Title: Re: Website offline and future of PU
Post by: Yume Tsuki on June 30, 2015, 12:29:34 am
I would say raising a bigger community would do good. And to do that, we might wanna make more kinds of departments based on Pokémon so people can discuss over the different things they do Pokémon related. So we can make a section for the official games, the manga's, the trading card game, etc. And to keep those sections active is a second. So best is to have a bunch of people whom like a certain part of a department and are specialized in it in some way. Let's say, we have someone who is really active in the Pokémon Trading card game section and pretty much keeps up to date to that kind of stuff because he or she is very into this. Maybe they can write articles or set up a discussion about how good the cards are and such. Even host tournaments over there.

As for recruitment, I would leave that out for now. First thing we need to do is get this forum back alive again. After that, we can think over if we want to revive the MMO project until we got a living community going on again. Because yes, we have a lot of viewers, but they mostly indeed just check if the game is already running. Because people check out this site because it is referring that there is a game in the making. The art department is as good as dead right now. But if we can get it going again after we set up a community I might be able to host Art contests to keep things circulating over there.
Title: Re: Website offline and future of PU
Post by: Roloc on June 30, 2015, 04:32:16 am
I'd love to do that with a competitive battling section on the forum. I am always up to date on everything competitive related.
Title: Re: Website offline and future of PU
Post by: TrainerX on June 30, 2015, 04:52:35 am
Half the reason people leave is they get on, see it's advertising a game, and then see it's not out. They either leave after that, or look around to see how long it's going to take. When they see the latest topics, they abandon it because there's going to be no game— if we clarify the game is no longer in the works and that this is just a forum for Pokemon, it might get some people to stick around. Not sure, but it's an idea.
I think this is spot-on.

I would say raising a bigger community would do good. And to do that, we might wanna make more kinds of departments based on Pokémon so people can discuss over the different things they do Pokémon related. So we can make a section for the official games, the manga's, the trading card game, etc. And to keep those sections active is a second. So best is to have a bunch of people whom like a certain part of a department and are specialized in it in some way. Let's say, we have someone who is really active in the Pokémon Trading card game section and pretty much keeps up to date to that kind of stuff because he or she is very into this. Maybe they can write articles or set up a discussion about how good the cards are and such. Even host tournaments over there.

As for recruitment, I would leave that out for now. First thing we need to do is get this forum back alive again. After that, we can think over if we want to revive the MMO project until we got a living community going on again. Because yes, we have a lot of viewers, but they mostly indeed just check if the game is already running. Because people check out this site because it is referring that there is a game in the making. The art department is as good as dead right now. But if we can get it going again after we set up a community I might be able to host Art contests to keep things circulating over there.
This is a good idea. The most difficult part is going to be finding people with the time and dedication to get things going and keep the forum from dying again.

I would help out if I could, but not only do I not have a lot of free time, I'm not anywhere near as interested in Pokemon as I used to be. If the forum got going again, I might show up once every couple of days and post in off-topic subforums or hang around in the irc channel, but I doubt I'll ever be consistently active here.
Title: Re: Website offline and future of PU
Post by: Miss Wednesday on June 30, 2015, 06:03:02 am
I'd love to do that with a competitive battling section on the forum. I am always up to date on everything competitive related.
I would also love that, I haven't battled in a long time on the server.
Title: Re: Website offline and future of PU
Post by: Flynt on June 30, 2015, 08:46:49 am
I would also love that, I haven't battled in a long time on the server.
Same here. I would also love that (I'm not good at battling though)
Title: Re: Website offline and future of PU
Post by: Miss Wednesday on June 30, 2015, 06:09:54 pm
Same here. I would also love that (I'm not good at battling though)
Yes you are lol
Title: Re: Website offline and future of PU
Post by: Yume Tsuki on July 04, 2015, 03:12:13 pm
Well then, we need to re-arrange the forum a bit to fill in every department. c:
Title: Re: Website offline and future of PU
Post by: Pokemaster MAC on July 06, 2015, 09:10:56 pm
Man... it's been too dang long since I last was here. I volunteered to help a few years back, but I got depressed over the loss of my guinea pig, and then immediately sucked into a new job, and have been there for awhile... I used to come here so often and had some fights, some battles and met some incredible people... (coughcoughRolocandWednesday) and I feel bad that I wasn't able to contribute more. Also kinda sad to see it come to this!
Title: Re: Website offline and future of PU
Post by: Miss Wednesday on July 07, 2015, 05:48:12 am
Man... it's been too dang long since I last was here. I volunteered to help a few years back, but I got depressed over the loss of my guinea pig, and then immediately sucked into a new job, and have been there for awhile... I used to come here so often and had some fights, some battles and met some incredible people... (coughcoughRolocandWednesday) and I feel bad that I wasn't able to contribute more. Also kinda sad to see it come to this!
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Title: Re: Website offline and future of PU
Post by: Baka on July 09, 2015, 06:01:26 am
There are many factors to blame.

First off Mr_Dark, you and Urmel made yourselves the organ of the whole project. Obviously that meant the project would die with you. It also meant everything was dependent on you and that this may have demotivated many of your team members.
- For example. When I tried to push the art-team in a tough direction, discarding applications which I believed would only create a bad image, you blamed me for destroying it.  I was not allowed to exert power, because the project "belonged" to you an Urmel. Furthermore you blamed me for one of the pixel artists deciding to quit, which was totally not true. Criticism is an important factor in any project, and this person was too political about everything.
In the end, I got demotivated and sabotaged my addition to the project as a form of protest. This is normal organizational behaviour. I do admit that I was being unreasonable to a certain degree however.

Second off, if you wanted to make it open source, then you should have released the map-software (day 1) as well as the main map. Should have been completely open day 1. 

Third off, the Pokemon community in general is full of people who want a lot but don't wish to contribute. There were no monetary incentives in this project, and thus it may have been a better idea to change the concept into a new game. Certainly there are Pokemon-like games that have achieved success, and that are far less than what PU thrived to be. The Pokemon community may be against it at first, but would in the end go along with it. Hence the success of the Pokemon-like games. (Eg, Micromon) This could have been your real job. :)

Additionally, while pixel art could have temporarily have been replaced by placeholders, the programming was a different case. This whole rewriting process made sense the first time (due to bugs), but not any more than that. Also, the full game should have been decided before any programming took place, so that you would not have to rewrite code all the time. Stuff like addition of Pokemon from newer games also made things unmanageable. I think the constant changes is what made you think the code was "poop".

Either way, like any short or long-lasting communities, this project created many friendships. That's what I will remember it for. :) I would also like to thank Mr_Dark and Urmel for all the time they put into the project. I hope you learned a lot. I'm sorry if you feel this post is an asshole move however.
Title: Re: Website offline and future of PU
Post by: Declan_23 on July 13, 2015, 10:56:07 pm
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EDIT: Sh!t Mr_Dark I just realised we never went for that beer. Ik laat je wel weten als ik terug in Nederland bent.
Title: Re: Website offline and future of PU
Post by: Mr_Dark on July 14, 2015, 09:12:24 am
EDIT: Sh!t Mr_Dark I just realised we never went for that beer. Ik laat je wel weten als ik terug in Nederland bent.

Sure man, just send me a mail once you're in the neighbourhood :)
Title: Re: Website offline and future of PU
Post by: Hiteryan on July 14, 2015, 11:50:20 pm
Well I've been kind of expecting this, and it's perfectly natural, it was too big of a project for what it was and for the few people working on it, but I'm very glad I had the opportunity to meet and work with all you wonderful people. I'm very very sorry I haven't been active! But life is busy, and I have to work my own stuff out too. If this truly is the end, maybe I'll rework the songs I've composed for the game so far and release an album or something!
Title: Re: Website offline and future of PU
Post by: Pokemaster MAC on July 18, 2015, 12:00:17 pm
Curious though... did anyone try to abuse the power of Twitch to gain viewers/potential artists? There's a ton of fodder out there, and I know a lot of people who draw idly on Twitch. Sounds wrong, I know know... but better to Last Resort than Struggle, am I right?
Title: Re: Website offline and future of PU
Post by: Yume Tsuki on July 19, 2015, 10:09:26 pm
We had a live stream when we had a battle tournament. Hiteryan's music was even in the background for those streams. c:


And honestly... I draw "idly" on twitch. But my viewers count don't really go that ridiculously high. Most "idly" drawers are usually the ones that do have people that follow them on a regular basis. They set up a notice that they plan a stream at some point, and then people go there by default when they notice the artist is streaming. Get a load of viewers, and of course some curious browsing people stumble upon their streams and watch along.
Title: Re: Website offline and future of PU
Post by: GrizzlyEatsKids on July 25, 2015, 07:17:45 pm
It's been so long since I've been on here, primarily due to the fact that I had issues with email verification and logging in and whatnot, but this website has given me many great memories, specifically because of the people I've met over the years. The website was a pivotal part in the development of my writing abilities, and I attribute many of the late night conversations about a multitude of writing-based topics to the skill level that I feel I have achieved today. It'll be sad for me to see the site go, but it'll be nearly impossible to forget what it has done for me.
Title: Re: Website offline and future of PU
Post by: Tickles on July 28, 2015, 08:55:02 pm
I'm back, and really sad at the news of the game being put to rest. There were a of issues that hindered its completion, but it was still a fun experience that i will hold in my mind and heart. I met a bunch of good people and even met my best friend here, and discovered that i do have talents. I just needed to learn to be more confident. I learned that here. I will definitely come back to the simulator once I've finished moving and getting things settled. Although, maybe every once in a while roloc could host a PU balance tourney to mix things up. I'm certain the server will go back to the traditional pokemon formula.
Title: Re: Website offline and future of PU
Post by: Roloc on August 01, 2015, 04:43:30 am
I would hold those definitely. I been wanting to start up the server but I didn't know it's anyone else wanted it back up.
Title: Re: Website offline and future of PU
Post by: Tickles on August 01, 2015, 01:34:47 pm
I'm sure i can drum up support and get people on. Maybe I'll go on reddit and get the word out that way.
Title: Re: Website offline and future of PU
Post by: GrizzlyEatsKids on August 02, 2015, 10:59:27 pm
I'm not into Pokemon a whole lot anymore, but I would pop up on a server if there was one, should my laptop cooperate.
Title: Re: Website offline and future of PU
Post by: Roloc on August 03, 2015, 04:57:21 am
I'll be into pokemon for the rest of my life. Regardless of what anyone says.

Console games, fan made games, competitive battles, MMOs, you name it I'm there.

Miss Wednesday and I actually have begun to collect pokemon figures and plushies. As some of you may know, plushies and figures can be VERY valuable if you know what your looking for. For example, there is a very particular clampearl figure that is only about 2 and a half inches tall and is completely worth 50 plus USD. That's not even the biggest insane part about it. There are pokemon plushies that sell for 400 or more USD. Just have to know what your looking for.

But yeah, pokemon fan for life = me
Title: Re: Website offline and future of PU
Post by: Tickles on August 04, 2015, 02:20:31 am
I too claim that title. Booted up blaze black 2 and played the new ruby and remembered why i loved pokemon so much. Even got my fiance into it a bit necause she likes the art. I'm not all for competative play anymore, but playing the games and getting into the stories is even more of a treat now. Plus i finally hatched a shiny male houndoom. 4 iv's but I'm going to trade it to my other game and take on the story with him.
Title: Re: Website offline and future of PU
Post by: GrizzlyEatsKids on August 06, 2015, 01:41:32 am
I've more of moved away from handheld gaming in general, but when I have time to play games, I personally gravitate towards my consoles in front of my big TV (it's where my friends play, too, so that's the biggest incentive). As my life changes and I move on, I may eventually find the right situation for handheld gaming, but nonetheless, Pokemon still holds a special place in my heart, as it is one of the biggest reasons I continue to play games so often today. Eventually when I move back into handheld gaming and I get a little more time on my hands, I'm sure I'll return right back to Pokemon.
Title: Re: Website offline and future of PU
Post by: The-Blades-slave on August 06, 2015, 03:30:22 am
Since it appears we're all just leaving goodbyes and such here, I'll leave you with this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rP_V07Cp6I&feature=iv&src_vid=ZJLr_O6lhrY&annotation_id=annotation_325498

Accurately sums up my experience on this site. Also, it's weird to see your signature hasn't changed from that old RP, Fenror. It brings back memories, lol.
Title: Re: Website offline and future of PU
Post by: Yume Tsuki on August 06, 2015, 07:36:59 pm
Heyhey, I'm still lurking every day. ;v;
Title: Re: Website offline and future of PU
Post by: Miss Wednesday on August 11, 2015, 12:42:18 am
Since it appears we're all just leaving goodbyes and such here, I'll leave you with this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rP_V07Cp6I&feature=iv&src_vid=ZJLr_O6lhrY&annotation_id=annotation_325498

Accurately sums up my experience on this site. Also, it's weird to see your signature hasn't changed from that old RP, Fenror. It brings back memories, lol.
What is this nonsense? xD

This is what sums up my experience on this site.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90rHFreKjvs
Title: Re: Website offline and future of PU
Post by: ArmandCool on August 11, 2015, 09:08:05 am
Damn.
Title: Re: Website offline and future of PU
Post by: Flynt on August 12, 2015, 11:34:24 am
Damn.
Indeed.
Title: Re: Website offline and future of PU
Post by: DaigurenHyõrinmaru on August 19, 2015, 01:17:44 am
This is the saddest comment ever. So sad :(
Title: Re: Website offline and future of PU
Post by: The-Blades-slave on August 19, 2015, 02:35:22 am
No, no, you're right. That wasn't the right song to sum up my experience, this is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaJezu6OnNw
Title: Re: Website offline and future of PU
Post by: TerryE on August 27, 2015, 07:23:59 am
The tears, they are rolling. I remember joining this site as a happy little teen who knew absolutely nothing of the metagame, and more importantly, how to conduct himself online. Watching this project and spreading the word and watching some of the madness back in IRC chat was a ride for me, and I learned a lot from you guys. It's sad to see the project I've been waiting ever so patiently (since 2009 I believe) for go, but at least the site will remain, along with most of the memories we've all made here.

Time has definitely flown since I joined PU. Now I'm in college, majoring in digital arts / computer programming to become a game dev myself. I want to make this dream a reality someday.

Thank you Mr.Dark and the PU team for this experience. I'll never forget the friends I've made here.
Title: Re: Website offline and future of PU
Post by: Deathimself on August 30, 2015, 08:38:30 pm
I am unsure if the Facebook page is being monitored or not, but I had a pretty good idea for those of you that have lost the time in trying to keep this project alive. Now I haven't been on here for quite some time. And I really regret that decision. I'm going to be going to college in a couple of months as I am getting out of the military. How ever my brilliant idea is this.... Why don't we start a kick starter for this project? There are so many people thousands probably millions of people that are wanting to play this game and it has been your little child for the past 5 years. Now I understand that has been awhile but you have come so close.. got a beta out for testing and you're throwing everything away :( it is sad really. This game will make history as it will be the best pokemon game out there that I can think of. It might take a little bit of time yes.. but I believe that if we were to start a kick starter it might just swade your ideas of: "I'm not really getting anything out of this therefore I'm going to start other side projects"... Into: "let's get this done and out so people can enjoy it."
Title: Re: Website offline and future of PU
Post by: Yume Tsuki on August 31, 2015, 11:00:28 am
Hmmm... Wouldn't that give copyright problems if we sent the game in for kick starter? ó_o
Title: Re: Website offline and future of PU
Post by: Deathimself on August 31, 2015, 07:51:35 pm
So I just checked the rules and regulations for Kick Starting a project. and we fall into the qualifying terms. its not copyright (unless after publication we might have to change name because pokemon universe is for wiiU now) ... other than that here are links to rules and prohibited items for kick start

https://www.kickstarter.com/rules?ref=learn_category_games
https://www.kickstarter.com/rules/prohibited

What are people's thoughts about kick starting this project?
Title: Re: Website offline and future of PU
Post by: spartandc on September 11, 2015, 08:35:47 am
So I just checked the rules and regulations for Kick Starting a project. and we fall into the qualifying terms. its not copyright (unless after publication we might have to change name because pokemon universe is for wiiU now) ... other than that here are links to rules and prohibited items for kick start

https://www.kickstarter.com/rules?ref=learn_category_games
https://www.kickstarter.com/rules/prohibited

What are people's thoughts about kick starting this project?

Not a bad idea but i think the problem is that alot of the people dont have enough time to do this, if it would work that is awesome but people would have to be willing
Title: Re: Website offline and future of PU
Post by: Tickles on September 12, 2015, 01:07:12 am
In order to kickstart the project, you would need a few things:

-A dedicated programmer who would take over writing the code

-A team of artists

-Writers

-Web Developers

-Advertisers

-Testers

So far, we have maybe one or two people in a couple of the groups (I quit writing myself, so that leaves spirit and declan if they are on board). Once you have all those, then you can start a kickstarter because people want to see that the parts are there, it just needs money to back it up.
Title: Re: Website offline and future of PU
Post by: Ursaring on September 21, 2015, 02:11:43 am
Personally I think making a pokemon MMO is not the best idea anymore. Nintendo is fairly strict and having your game shut down after all the blood,sweat, and tears would be pretty horrible(and not to mention possibly very costly). 

I would love to work on a turn based monster fighting MMO ,but would definitely want it to be original content. Think along the same line as pokemon ,but a bit more grown up. I think their is a very real market for a game like that ,but using pokemon's name is just to risky in my opinion.
Title: Re: Website offline and future of PU
Post by: Deathimself on October 01, 2015, 05:45:26 pm
Personally I think making a pokemon MMO is not the best idea anymore. Nintendo is fairly strict and having your game shut down after all the blood,sweat, and tears would be pretty horrible(and not to mention possibly very costly).

Imo this is not exactly so... Because a pokemon mmo has already happened https://pokemmo.eu/ .... It would be sad to see that one go through but not this one we have been working on... We have already put in a lot of blood sweat and tears to get as far as we have gone. But just like tickles said we need to find people that are on board that will be willing to pick up the legacy