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Title: Legendary Question
Post by: Viper on April 22, 2010, 10:13:56 PM
Hey yall i just had a quick question about legendaries in this game. So what ive seen so far is legendaries will not be catchable but they can help you in quests which i understand and i actually think thats a good idea, but what i wanted to know is what is this games definition of legendaries? I have always thought of legendaries as the end game pokemon that have uber stats like lugia/groudon/palkia and special event guys. What im trying to get at is, will pokemon such as the three dogs or three birds or three regis also be included in this legendary no catch list? Because in my team that i hoped to have in this game i included raikou, who is in my top 5 pokemon, and im wondering if I will have to pick a replacement. Thx in advance :)
Title: Re: Legendary Question
Post by: Sazhuy on April 22, 2010, 10:39:54 PM
I think the Legendary Dogs/Birds are included as Legendaries in most cases unless its competitive battling then no. But that is up to the PU Team to decided.
Title: Re: Legendary Question
Post by: Viper on April 23, 2010, 01:04:57 AM
Ya i really wish they werent haha. I understand if they are though since there is only one of each in the games but they arent as strong as the real legendaries.
Title: Re: Legendary Question
Post by: Raikt on April 23, 2010, 01:23:51 AM
I'm relatively sure that the thee legendaries for each region will also be included in that list; as they are rare, hard to find, and there is usually only one of them per world, as defined by the game. Once you capture Articuno, you can't catch another.

So, in short, no. I doubt they will be in the game either.
Title: Re: Legendary Question
Post by: Kamaran on April 23, 2010, 07:24:21 AM
The legendaries we are talking about are on this list (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Legendaries). Excluding the "Other Pokémon of myth"

Alternative you can just read the [Poll] Best Legendary (http://pokemon-universe.com/index.php/topic,782.0.html) thread.
Title: Re: Legendary Question
Post by: Viper on April 25, 2010, 08:36:01 PM
So i was thinking about that, and wouldnt that mean Lucario is legendary also?
Title: Re: Legendary Question
Post by: ChibiVampire on April 25, 2010, 08:42:44 PM
I hope Lucario is allowed..! >w<!
Because I don't really think it would be a legendary.
At best it would be a rare.
Title: Re: Legendary Question
Post by: DarK_SouL on April 25, 2010, 08:46:49 PM
Lucario is my favorite I really hope he is on PU I'm sure he will be hes not legendary.
Title: Re: Legendary Question
Post by: Viper on April 25, 2010, 08:52:02 PM
Ya i was thinking hes not part of that category but you can only get one of them in the game so i was just wondering

Plus im pretty sure theres a movie just about him and hes in Super Smash Brothers Brawl so that puts him a bit over the other pokemon...

Then again Jigglypuff is in SSB  XD
Title: Re: Legendary Question
Post by: draft92 on April 25, 2010, 10:27:40 PM
Plus im pretty sure theres a movie just about him and hes in Super Smash Brothers Brawl so that puts him a bit over the other pokemon...

This is true, and in the movie it even has telepathic powers. Have you even seen a pokemon with telepathy, who is not a legendary?
Title: Re: Legendary Question
Post by: ChibiVampire on April 25, 2010, 10:51:49 PM
A legendary with telepathy..? Wouldn't that count as Mewtwo from the first Pokemon movie? :/?
Title: Re: Legendary Question
Post by: draft92 on April 25, 2010, 10:59:33 PM
A legendary with telepathy..? Wouldn't that count as Mewtwo from the first Pokemon movie? :/?

These are the pokemon whom use telepathy, as far as I know:
Mewtwo
Shaymin
Lugia
Entei (At least the Entei that Unknown creates)
Jirachi
Lucario

All I can think of, and they're all legendaries. Right? :P
Title: Re: Legendary Question
Post by: Viper on April 25, 2010, 11:11:32 PM
A legendary with telepathy..? Wouldn't that count as Mewtwo from the first Pokemon movie? :/?

These are the pokemon whom use telepathy, as far as I know:
Mewtwo
Shaymin
Lugia
Entei (At least the Entei that Unknown creates)
Jirachi
Lucario

All I can think of, and they're all legendaries. Right? :P

I think latios can, or maybe he can feel what people can think. something like that
Title: Re: Legendary Question
Post by: DarK_SouL on April 25, 2010, 11:35:47 PM
Thank god lucario ISN'T LEGENDARY
Title: Re: Legendary Question
Post by: draft92 on April 25, 2010, 11:57:31 PM
Quoted From The bulpedia legendary list page:

Lucario and its master Sir Aaron were forever revered because of their help pacifying an ancient battle, as seen in the eighth movie. In Pokémon Mystery Dungeon, a Lucario was regarded as a legendary Rescue Team Leader in the distant past, and "Lucario Rank" is the highest attainable team rank in the game. In Pokémon Ranger: Shadows of Almia he is the only non-legendary guardian of a prince tear. Also, in the opening of the Diamond and Pearl theme song, Lucario appears beside Dialga and Palkia.

 Too me it seems as a legendary even thought he really isn't one. I would vote for not atainable in PU. Even though I love Lucario and thinks it's awesome. But personal feelings aside, I vote no lucario. :P

But, if the PU Developers balance the Pokémon's equally enough. So that no Pokémon is overpowered, I could go with making Lucario catchable, as I want to own a Dragonite, which is also a super rare powerful Pokémon.
Title: Re: Legendary Question
Post by: ChibiVampire on April 26, 2010, 12:23:23 AM
Well... With all the arguing... Why not say that Lucario is a rare, but not exactly catch able.
You would have to get Riolu and then evolve it to get a Lucario... :/?
Then again... That may not be the best idea.
But I hear thats something like what they are going to do with Dragonite. For Dragonite you have to evolve Dratini.
So why not make it the same with Lucario.
I mean. Dragonite would be more legendary than Lucario. But they are thinking of allowing Dratini. ^_^
Title: Re: Legendary Question
Post by: Viper on April 26, 2010, 12:46:53 AM
Ya but there is more than one dratini in the games. however i do agree, I think they should have lucario, but as riolu. No wild Lucario, have to evolve the Riolu
Title: Re: Legendary Question
Post by: ChibiVampire on April 26, 2010, 12:54:02 AM
Well...if the management team happens to see this forum, there might be a chance... ^_^
But then are they going to have the happiness meter in this game? :D?
Title: Re: Legendary Question
Post by: Viper on April 26, 2010, 01:03:19 AM
Well...if the management team happens to see this forum, there might be a chance... ^_^
But then are they going to have the happiness meter in this game? :D?

I assume they would, but im not sure.

Ill probably be yelled at and told to search the forums in a sec for saying that XD
Title: Re: Legendary Question
Post by: ChibiVampire on April 26, 2010, 01:10:59 AM
*Gasp!* I was the one that brought it up! 030!
Sorry! Sorry! Sorry! Sorry!
I wonder if it is my fault... 0.0...
Ooh! The haircut brothers! Or some lady that gives pokemon massages...
or something new... Like Pokemon treats...
Not like rare candies... Those are for levels...
Im talking about treats that raise happiness...
Then again that might just be poke blocks... >w<
Title: Re: Legendary Question
Post by: Raikt on April 26, 2010, 01:51:53 AM
Here you go. (http://pokemon-universe.com/index.php/topic,468.0.html)

Happiness evolutions.

And, iirc, there are no known places in any Pokemon game where you could catch a wild Lucario, right? Then I see no reason to change that. Lucario is pretty powerful as well, so being a wild Pokemon would make him rather difficult. I see no problem with keeping it as a Riolu in the wild.
Title: Re: Legendary Question
Post by: ChibiVampire on April 26, 2010, 02:05:30 AM
Oh... I did read that...
I happened to forget...
Sorry... And thank you... ^_^
Title: Re: Legendary Question
Post by: Viper on April 26, 2010, 02:17:59 AM
Here you go. (http://pokemon-universe.com/index.php/topic,468.0.html)

Happiness evolutions.

And, iirc, there are no known places in any Pokemon game where you could catch a wild Lucario, right? Then I see no reason to change that. Lucario is pretty powerful as well, so being a wild Pokemon would make him rather difficult. I see no problem with keeping it as a Riolu in the wild.

To the Riolu comment, Exactly as i think too
Title: Re: Legendary Question
Post by: ChibiVampire on April 26, 2010, 02:32:45 AM
So I was right..? Tee hee... =^_^=
Title: Re: Legendary Question
Post by: Kamaran on April 26, 2010, 07:22:18 AM
Per definition a legendary cannot breed (manaphy (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Manaphy_(Pok%C3%A9mon)) excluded).
Lucario is thus not a legendary, but more like a rare.

Rare pokemon will be avaible in the game at some point.

The PU team will, when the time is right, discuss wether rare pokemon shall be able breed and/or traded to keep the rareness as a factor.

Please be aware that just to obtain one, you either got to be lucky or really search for weeks at "known" locations.
Title: Re: Legendary Question
Post by: Sazhuy on April 26, 2010, 01:30:04 PM
Going back to the topic on legendary pokemon with telepathy. Is everyone forgetting my awesome Slowking back in the movie 2000. Anywho thanks for the info and i think PU will at the moment only allow you to catch stage 1 pokemon so yeah evolution might be the only way to get him right now.
Title: Re: Legendary Question
Post by: draft92 on April 26, 2010, 03:13:29 PM
Going back to the topic on legendary pokemon with telepathy. Is everyone forgetting my awesome Slowking back in the movie 2000. Anywho thanks for the info and i think PU will at the moment only allow you to catch stage 1 pokemon so yeah evolution might be the only way to get him right now.

However, Slowking didn't use telepathy. It talked. :P
Title: Re: Legendary Question
Post by: Jerry on April 26, 2010, 06:46:24 PM
Per definition a legendary cannot breed (Manaphy (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Manaphy_(Pok%C3%A9mon)) and Phione (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Phione) excluded).

I'll extend the definition to:
- can be obtained only once in the game (unless traded over)
- does not evolve

Once those three conditions are satisfied, you have your legendary pokemon.
Title: Re: Legendary Question
Post by: Millzar The Pirate on April 26, 2010, 10:02:38 PM
what about manaphy? it is hatchable so there can be more than one. could it be avalible by doing something special or something of that sorts?
Title: Re: Legendary Question
Post by: Kalius on April 26, 2010, 10:51:32 PM
personally if there's a legend I'd want, it's Shaymin, because technically there's alot of them if you watched the movie.

Phione would be a second because it's possible to breed for them.
Title: Re: Legendary Question
Post by: Viper on April 26, 2010, 11:32:57 PM
personally if there's a legend I'd want, it's Shaymin, because technically there's alot of them if you watched the movie.

Phione would be a second because it's possible to breed for them.

psh both are weak
Title: Re: Legendary Question
Post by: ChibiVampire on April 27, 2010, 01:18:27 AM
He is right... They are weak.
I like something like Lugia as a legendary... ^_^
Title: Re: Legendary Question
Post by: Raikt on April 27, 2010, 04:23:20 AM
what about manaphy? it is hatchable so there can be more than one. could it be avalible by doing something special or something of that sorts?

It's extremely hard to get a Manaphy or Phione through natural means as it is. Unless you have Pokemon Ranger or someone trades you one, you aren't getting one. If they even offered, which I think would be under heavy consideration, it would not be easy and definitely not accessibly to low level trainers.

personally if there's a legend I'd want, it's Shaymin, because technically there's alot of them if you watched the movie.

Phione would be a second because it's possible to breed for them.

Shaymin may be common in the movie, but they are not common anywhere else. Very few trainers have even seen a Shaymin in their lifetime; it's described as them being almost as rare as the legendary birds.


psh both are weak

Phione is the only weak one, with terrible base stats. Manaphy and Shaymin, especially Shaymin Sky Forme, are considered Uber for a reason. Their attacks are extremely powerful. If Seed Flare gets a SpD drop, which is extremely likely, then Shaymin can actually rip through Blissey, the biggest Special wall of OU and Ubers. Manaphy can be a serious pain to take down with Rain Hydration and Rest, coming off it's above average defenses and HP.

That's not power to sneeze at.
Title: Re: Legendary Question
Post by: Viper on April 27, 2010, 07:10:56 AM
what about manaphy? it is hatchable so there can be more than one. could it be avalible by doing something special or something of that sorts?

It's extremely hard to get a Manaphy or Phione through natural means as it is. Unless you have Pokemon Ranger or someone trades you one, you aren't getting one. If they even offered, which I think would be under heavy consideration, it would not be easy and definitely not accessibly to low level trainers.

personally if there's a legend I'd want, it's Shaymin, because technically there's alot of them if you watched the movie.

Phione would be a second because it's possible to breed for them.

Shaymin may be common in the movie, but they are not common anywhere else. Very few trainers have even seen a Shaymin in their lifetime; it's described as them being almost as rare as the legendary birds.


psh both are weak

Phione is the only weak one, with terrible base stats. Manaphy and Shaymin, especially Shaymin Sky Forme, are considered Uber for a reason. Their attack are extremely powerful. If Seed Flare gets a SpD drop, which is extremely likely, then Shaymin can actually rip through Blissey, the biggest Special wall of OU and Ubers. Manaphy can be a serious pain to take down with Rain Hydration and Rest, coming off it's above average defenses and HP.

That's not power to sneeze at.

I can get them in two seconds....

AR FTW
Title: Re: Legendary Question
Post by: Raikt on April 27, 2010, 08:30:37 AM
There will be no Action Replay for Pokemon Universe, so that's a moot point.
Title: Re: Legendary Question
Post by: Viper on April 27, 2010, 03:43:08 PM
There will be no Action Replay for Pokemon Universe, so that's a moot point.

I wasnt talking about PU and you werent talking about it either. You said some people have never seen them and they are rare, relative to the DS games
Title: Re: Legendary Question
Post by: Raikt on April 27, 2010, 03:48:49 PM
There will be no Action Replay for Pokemon Universe, so that's a moot point.

I wasnt talking about PU and you werent talking about it either. You said some people have never seen them and they are rare, relative to the DS games

Which they are, if you don't have an Action Replay. I was talking about rarity in game, and subsequently, rarity or possible inclusion in PU. My point still stands that a majority of the DS gaming population has probably never owned a Manaphy or Shaymin.
Title: Re: Legendary Question
Post by: ChibiVampire on April 27, 2010, 04:19:42 PM
Thats true... I don't know anyone that has a legit Shaymin or Manaphy. They have action replay.
Title: Re: Legendary Question
Post by: Kamaran on April 27, 2010, 05:11:51 PM
back on main topic please.

(I don't wanna read or hear poop about AR-cheated legendaries)
Title: Re: Legendary Question
Post by: draft92 on April 27, 2010, 05:22:07 PM
Here's a suggestion. Maybe one of the PU devlopers should list ALL pokemon that won't be catchable and make a sticky of it. That way newbies won't have to make these kind of topics, (Unless they haven't read it of course.)
Title: Re: Legendary Question
Post by: Kamaran on April 27, 2010, 08:23:18 PM
The legendaries we are talking about are on this list (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Legendaries). Excluding the "Other Pokémon of myth"

Alternative; you can just read the [Poll] Best Legendary (http://pokemon-universe.com/index.php/topic,782.0.html) thread.
Title: Re: Legendary Question
Post by: draft92 on April 27, 2010, 08:38:49 PM
The legendaries we are talking about are on this list (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Legendaries). Excluding the "Other Pokémon of myth"

Alternative; you can just read the [Poll] Best Legendary (http://pokemon-universe.com/index.php/topic,782.0.html) thread.

yes but make a whole new thread and perhaps name it "Legendary pokemon won't be catchable in PU. Here's a list of all the legendary pokemon." Or something :P
Title: Re: Legendary Question
Post by: Viper on April 27, 2010, 10:03:46 PM
Or they could just look at this thread and look at the link that Kamaran has posted twice
Title: Re: Legendary Question
Post by: draft92 on April 28, 2010, 08:10:53 AM
Fine.. It was just a suggestion.