HM Slot

[Gammal]

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I think you misunderstood the idea. The plan was to have a slot where an HM could be taught BUT not used in battle. For example the extra slot would only allow you to use the HM to surf on the sea and not to use the attack in a battle.

Aight so what if I wanna use a HM as a move in battle? ... Do I have to teach it twice to the same pokemon? And since it quest based in PU that would make it even more inconvenient

[Impwadman]

Alright so what if I wanna use a HM as a move in battle? ... Do I have to teach it twice to the same pokemon? And since it quest based in PU that would make it even more inconvenient

Yea, I agree. So, just to clear up what Gammal said, basically what you're going to have to do if you want to use say, surf, as a battle move, is you're going to have to teach it to you're pokemon in your HM slot and in the battle moves list? 

or............

If you teach it to your pokemons battle moves list, you will still be able to use it outside of battle and in battle, but it would take up a slot for another move.

Personally, I like using most of the HM's as battle moves so the HM slot would not be as convinient for me.

If you could just clear things up that would be great.

[Declan_23]

This whole discussion is pointless as it isn't going to happen...

There are no HM in PU. Special moves are learned by doing quests. D:

Learning special moves on the other hand, and it's limitation to one move per pokemon is kinda pointless. Why? Because special moves usually don't give much of an effect or any advantage. As for an extra ability slot... why? What if you also want to use it as an attack?

Fill me in if I missed something.

[ghandor]

I like the pr system the best but what if your pokemon is like level 100 and has a lot f pr well how would you find an attack

i guess u would just have a longer list of moves on the battle selection, its up to you how you manage your moves. as your poke levels it gains more pr and learns new moves.

basically, in the end you can do like a few high powered moves, or many low powered moves. PR can be listed on your pokes stats eg hp 60/120, PR 50/130 and an experience bar
... if hyper-mega-supa attack has pr of 25 then you can use it twice more, or you could use a move a pr move of 8 six more times or a pr move of 4 twelve times. or you could use 1xpr25, 2xpr4, 1xpr8, 2xpr4 and have 1 pr left.

if you haven't enough pr to do a move i guess u could have (a) have a move like struggle that burns hp instead, (b) have the option to use any known move but the poke faints after the move, or (c) just a msg '#name# is too exhausted to attack anymore'.

[Urmel]

Here's how it will be unless someone comes with a brilliant other idea:
Current HM's will turn into regular moves (not sure yet how these will be obtainable for your Pokemon). Things like surf and strength will be abilities, in other words your Pokemon can learn to do them (probably by doing a quest) but it won't take up an attack slot.

[Gingimon]

sweet, so your saying that we wwill never have to use an hm on our 4 attack slots?

[Gammal]

Here's how it will be unless someone comes with a brilliant other idea:
Current HM's will turn into regular moves (not sure yet how these will be obtainable for your Pokemon). Things like surf and strength will be abilities, in other words your Pokemon can learn to do them (probably by doing a quest) but it won't take up an attack slot.

So how does that work for pokemon that wish to use SURF as an attack?

[recneps]

Here's how it will be unless someone comes with a brilliant other idea:
Current HM's will turn into regular moves (not sure yet how these will be obtainable for your Pokemon). Things like surf and strength will be abilities, in other words your Pokemon can learn to do them (probably by doing a quest) but it won't take up an attack slot.

I really don't think getting rid of the HMs would be a good idea, that is if you are going for the classic feel of the games, you were supposed to have to make the tough choices about who to teach the HM to, knowing full well that it cant be unlearned. Maybe thats just my view on it, but i had to say something about it.

[Phosphorous]

Here's how it will be unless someone comes with a brilliant other idea:
Current HM's will turn into regular moves (not sure yet how these will be obtainable for your Pokemon). Things like surf and strength will be abilities, in other words your Pokemon can learn to do them (probably by doing a quest) but it won't take up an attack slot.

So are you going to have to do the quest more than once, if lets say;
I did the quest and squirtle learned surf. But I don't want to use squirtle anymore because I've caught a better water type pokemon...lets say...tentacruel. So now... do I need to redo the quest so tentacruel will learn surf, or is it gonna be a one time deal kind of thing ?

[Urmel]

Here's how it will be unless someone comes with a brilliant other idea:
Current HM's will turn into regular moves (not sure yet how these will be obtainable for your Pokemon). Things like surf and strength will be abilities, in other words your Pokemon can learn to do them (probably by doing a quest) but it won't take up an attack slot.

So how does that work for pokemon that wish to use SURF as an attack?

The HM's will be normal attacks.

Here's how it will be unless someone comes with a brilliant other idea:
Current HM's will turn into regular moves (not sure yet how these will be obtainable for your Pokemon). Things like surf and strength will be abilities, in other words your Pokemon can learn to do them (probably by doing a quest) but it won't take up an attack slot.

I really don't think getting rid of the HMs would be a good idea, that is if you are going for the classic feel of the games, you were supposed to have to make the tough choices about who to teach the HM to, knowing full well that it cant be unlearned. Maybe thats just my view on it, but i had to say something about it.

We'll make sure there will be other tough choices

Here's how it will be unless someone comes with a brilliant other idea:
Current HM's will turn into regular moves (not sure yet how these will be obtainable for your Pokemon). Things like surf and strength will be abilities, in other words your Pokemon can learn to do them (probably by doing a quest) but it won't take up an attack slot.

So are you going to have to do the quest more than once, if lets say;
I did the quest and squirtle learned surf. But I don't want to use squirtle anymore because I've caught a better water type pokemon...lets say...tentacruel. So now... do I need to redo the quest so tentacruel will learn surf, or is it gonna be a one time deal kind of thing ?

You will probably have to do the quest for each Pokemon. This stuff hasn't been decided yet though, so who knows.