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Re: Spiritomb Over powered
« Reply #15 on: November 21, 2011, 12:59:11 AM »
On topic, I agree with Noah, your team needs to be a mix of attackers, and maybe have a few defensive Pokemon.

actually sceptile, jolteon and pidgeot are special attackers. he has three of each.
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Re: Spiritomb Over powered
« Reply #16 on: November 21, 2011, 01:33:20 AM »
When did Pidgeot become a special attacker?
                                            
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Re: Spiritomb Over powered
« Reply #17 on: November 21, 2011, 01:41:09 AM »
I wanted to post that but i figured Pidgeot had probably changed over the years or something... The only thing pidgeot is, is a horrible choice for competitive battling. Fearow braviary staraptor are all better those are just off the top of my head.... mirror move is useless with Pidgeot
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Re: Spiritomb Over powered
« Reply #18 on: November 21, 2011, 01:52:13 AM »
Does no one look at the completed reports?
http://pokemon-universe.com/index.php/topic,2788.0.html

It's special attack may only be 10 higher then it's attack but it is higher none the lees.
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Re: Spiritomb Over powered
« Reply #19 on: November 21, 2011, 01:56:18 AM »
Higher still dont mean accepatable none of its stats are acceptable
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Re: Spiritomb Over powered
« Reply #20 on: November 21, 2011, 01:59:24 AM »
Yeah its stats still aren't really acceptable. Although getting back to Spiritomb; toxic is an easy way to dispatch of the ghost. If its not carrying Will-o-Wisp then steel types can come in and wall it.
                                            
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Re: Spiritomb Over powered
« Reply #21 on: November 21, 2011, 02:01:38 AM »
If all you want in a pokemon are stats then you have a long way to go.

Not every pokemon needs high stats to be good at something.

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Filter/Solid Rock:
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Filter takes a lot of damage off of SE attacks.
And Pidgeot can have Filter

Edit: This is my last post here. We are getting to far off topic.
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Re: Spiritomb Over powered
« Reply #22 on: November 21, 2011, 02:05:21 AM »
I want a list of these "in acceptable" Pokemon, gonn prove that they are acceptable.
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Re: Spiritomb Over powered
« Reply #23 on: November 21, 2011, 02:14:31 AM »
If all you want in a pokemon are stats then you have a long way to go.

Not every pokemon needs high stats to be good at something.

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- 35% damage reduction on Super Effective hits, rather than 25%.

Filter takes a lot of damage off of SE attacks.
And Pidgeot can have Filter


Its not just the stats that I'm looking at for Pidgeot. Even after the balance, it is still outcalssed by its fellow flying bretheren. I don't imagine it finding a place on anyones team easily.
                                            
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Re: Spiritomb Over powered
« Reply #24 on: November 21, 2011, 03:19:35 PM »
It can make a nice spcl wall after the balance tho. they turned it into a freaking noctowl..... but anyway what i do with stats meowth is compare them to other pokemon who have the same type. i dont care about move pools i care about strong stats and that is never gonna change if they have no stats whats the point in using them. The only tim,e i dont look at stats is when i raise a pokemon who supports/henders teams....then again thats still not true cuz then i get the fastest supporter/hender possible to get. Say what you want stats are everything to me.

Thats y im having problems on the pu server cuz the ones who were good just arent really that good on it, they've been slightly altered and it shows in battles dragonites aqua jet does like no damage now so to me he is now usless... and i have to find something to replace it with. My whole team got weaker now to make a mono flying team i probably would use pidgeot as a speacial wall if it turns out better than togekiss whom stats i havent checked yet. Anyway it's like i have to relearn pokemon and from what i've learned so far i usnderstand y Roloc dont lose his whole team of pokemon got boosted too much there is no balamnce in a cater pie 20 points faster than a garchomp hows that balance. now we got caterpies walking around ohkoing garchomps with out  using quiver dance bugs became beastie in this pu server. and bug mono was already one of the best mono teams u could make.
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Re: Spiritomb Over powered
« Reply #25 on: November 21, 2011, 05:09:45 PM »
I asked for a list of Pokemon that don't have acceptable stats.
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Re: Spiritomb Over powered
« Reply #26 on: November 21, 2011, 05:23:20 PM »
dont have time to do that farfetch'd just popped in my head tho
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Re: Spiritomb Over powered
« Reply #27 on: November 21, 2011, 05:36:47 PM »
Anyway it's like i have to relearn pokemon and from what i've learned so far i usnderstand y Roloc dont lose his whole team of pokemon got boosted too much there is no balamnce in a cater pie 20 points faster than a garchomp hows that balance. now we got caterpies walking around ohkoing garchomps with out  using quiver dance bugs became beastie in this pu server. and bug mono was already one of the best mono teams u could make.
I know I said my other post was my last but this was just so idiotic I had to respond.

You can make it up to be bugs are OP all you want. The reason I win is cause I am good at what I do. I lose to others that know what they are doing. Just because you don't see me lose dosnt mean I don't lose. I lose lots of people...many many times. Noah/meowth/bing/shadow to name a few.

Butterfree speed is 109 base and garchomps speed is 100 base I don't know where you got a 20point difference from. Thats assuming you meant butterfree not caterpie...
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Re: Spiritomb Over powered
« Reply #28 on: November 21, 2011, 06:17:29 PM »
Well, I got the idea behind deadae's post from Roloc's.  I couldn't stop laughing at cater pie!

Well, it makes sense that bug pokemon get a bit of an increase.  Most of them were just to frail to be of any use.  With Roloc's current team you just have to stop his sweepers from setting up with QD.  Which isn't to hard.  Toxic works nicely and Physical attackers do damage, cause QD does not raise defense.

But, really?  Cater-pie!?

Hahahahahahaha!

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Re: Spiritomb Over powered
« Reply #29 on: November 22, 2011, 02:44:40 AM »
Thats y im having problems on the pu server cuz the ones who were good just arent really that good on it, they've been slightly altered and it shows in battles dragonites aqua jet does like no damage now so to me he is now usless... and i have to find something to replace it with. My whole team got weaker now to make a mono flying team i probably would use pidgeot as a speacial wall if it turns out better than togekiss whom stats i havent checked yet. Anyway it's like i have to relearn pokemon and from what i've learned so far i usnderstand y Roloc dont lose his whole team of pokemon got boosted too much there is no balamnce in a cater pie 20 points faster than a garchomp hows that balance. now we got caterpies walking around ohkoing garchomps with out  using quiver dance bugs became beastie in this pu server. and bug mono was already one of the best mono teams u could make.


This made me laugh soooooo hard...but getting serious now. Mr.Roloc does not win becasue his pokemon are overpowered (and this is coming from someone who litterally cannot stand up to a Quiver Dance) but instead he wins because he is a true expert at what he does. Being frank, unlike the many (just about everyone who is online) we see on the server, Mr.Roloc and Bing actually know how to battle, and are one of the few who do by competative standards. The main problem with the Butterfree vs Garchomp thing was Garchomp was nerfed a bit too harshly and unrealistcally. If anything, the Mach Pokemon should not have gotten a nerf to its speed.
                                            
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