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Pokémon Discussion => General Chat => Topic started by: jshep85 on February 14, 2010, 07:22:40 AM
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This cannot be a legendary pokemon, example: Jirachi. Some candidates for this could be Aggron, Metagross, and Skarmory. I have chosen none of these. My selection is steelix because his defense is off the charts, 2nd only to shuckle.Another reason for this pick is when in battle, STEELIX can use screech which lowers the oponents defense, making it easier for STEELIX to defeat the opponent with earthquake, double-edge, or iron tail.Lastly, steel is in his name, therefore making him the clear winner.
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It's probably Bronzong tbh.
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I considered Bronzong because he's well rounded and his secondary type is psychic but I consider myself more passive and defensive and since Steelix has the 2nd best defense, I had to pick him.
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I kinda like Skarmory, but my fav is Aggron.
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lucario all the way
he is cool looking grat moveset spikes what more could you ask for!
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Bronzong just because it's ironic that bronze can beat steel ;P
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haha get it ?
IRONic that BRONZ(E)ong can beat STEELix.
I know I'm dumb :/ couldn't help myself though xD
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Steelix,
because its the only steel poke' that I know.
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I choose Steelix too - not sure if he's the "best" steel-type, I just like him.
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This cannot be a legendary pokemon, example: Jirachi. Some candidates for this could be Aggron, Metagross, and Skarmory. I have chosen none of these. My selection is steelix because his defense is off the charts, 2nd only to shuckle.Another reason for this pick is when in battle, STEELIX can use screech which lowers the oponents defense, making it easier for STEELIX to defeat the opponent with earthquake, double-edge, or iron tail.Lastly, steel is in his name, therefore making him the clear winner.
Steelix's shortcomings are its low Special Defense and Speed, as well as a really shallow movepool... IMO
I would have to say Metagross. Its a very awesome poke, great typing, a great many sets you can use.
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Mawile, because it has those huge pincer horns that just look totally awesome.
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I would have to say steelix. Hes not only my favorite but good at attack and defense!
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I have to say Lucario, although t=before the game came out I never though he would have been steel but hey :S
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i would choosed lucario since he's half fighting type, he can take on many pokemon on himself regardless his resistance...
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Lucario actually has a lot to worry about because he is part steel. No good steel moves for STAB either.
Best steel is Magnezone because they can not escape his fury.
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well, i agreed lucario has not much steel type moves but it's only for his defense or weakness,not for STAB... his fighting moves is good for STAB isn't it?
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i think scizor is the best
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Dialga FTW.
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Lucario is great, and Steelix is the best seteel pokemon, but my personal favourite is Empoleon (Yay for the randomness)
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Please give an argument WHY you think your Pokemon is the best. Otherwise we'll just get a useless list of Pokémon.
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Metagross bcuz i owned steelix in a duel with him
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magnezone because of his mix of electric/steel(12 resistances) + very high sp.att... it is unbeatable unless you have fire or fighter type(ground can be negated with magnet rise), if you dont have one you can just restart the game and weep
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Best at what, really? Bronzong is the best support steel. Aggron is the most powerful steel type, next to Metagross. Skarmory is one of the best walls, and Forretress is one of the best utility 'mons. Scizor even fills a niche as the best revenge killer. Magnezone is the best steel trapper. There are even more than that, I'm sure. Steel is one of the best types period.
My favorite is Jirachi, even though you said no legendaries.
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I'm going to say that the best steel-type pokemon would have to be... Probopass b/c of its killer 'stache :D
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Bronzong has a beasty combo so no break it
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I hesitate between Metagross and Lucario... Well, I'll pick Lucario. :P
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I hesitate between Metagross and Lucario... Well, I'll pick Lucario. :P
I probably have to agree with Jerry by saying Lucario. But if you mean not a mix then I have to say Steelix ;D
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Its not pure steel but i'd say Foretress should stand near the top of the ladder, great addition to any shoddy team and a decent variety in it's movepool.
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best steel?
ill say my all time favorite
REGISTEEL (ftw)
because he talks cool and is a strong legendary
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best steel?
ill say my all time favorite
REGISTEEL (ftw)
because he talks cool and is a strong legendary
I actually think Registeel is kinda weak.....
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best steel?
ill say my all time favorite
REGISTEEL (ftw)
because he talks cool and is a strong legendary
I actually think Registeel is kinda weak.....
Offensively; yes, he is pretty weak, though his attack score is enough to warrant Iron Head and Earthquake. He has an amazing Special Defense though.
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Metagross is amazing with the Steel Phychic thing going on.
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Gonna have to say scizor becasue hes only weak against fire, and resistant to 9 different types, base of 500, so not bad.
Extremely high attack, second highest next to metagross, and can learn x-scizor and iron head naturally, which make him a great sweeper.
So in general, its a great well rounded pokemon that can take out nearly anything quite quickly.
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forget scizor he cant break through REGISTEEL'S defense
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i rly like Bronzong or Metagross. Some of my fav steel types
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I wouldn't say its the best...
But I like Mawile.
Always have... Probably Always will... :3
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yeah mawile would get owned by registeel, bronzong, or metagross
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(http://i676.photobucket.com/albums/vv126/Lopunny/PoD_Mawile.gif)
I've never seen anyone use a Mawile. Not even the NPC trainers.
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Well... U will see me using it..! >:3!
If I can find any... :3
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There is one in the RSE series. Go to the route between the Berry Master and the place where you get the pokemon graveyard (Mt. Pyre was it?), and a Cool Trainer should have a Mawile.
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There is one in the RSE series. Go to the route between the Berry Master and the place where you get the pokemon graveyard (Mt. Pyre was it?), and a Cool Trainer should have a Mawile.
Okay, that's freaky. Have you stored every single piece of knowlege about the pokemon games in your head? :O
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Uh no, I restarted the game a couple of times, and recently to migrate the Regi-golems into my platinum to get Regigigas and I hate leaving unbeaten trainers around :P
Nah, I remember it particularly because I was looking for Mawile in my pokedex in early game so that I could have it's location to catch it in Emerald. As soon as I found that trainer, I check my pokedex, but it was not obtainable in Emerald. I had to trade over, which was not possible at that time.
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There is one in the RSE series. Go to the route between the Berry Master and the place where you get the pokemon graveyard (Mt. Pyre was it?), and a Cool Trainer should have a Mawile.
Well I skip some of the NPC trainers sometimes. I guess that would explain why.
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Its ARON.
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i think i like steelix the most, althought i like skarmory too
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Aggron can learn some pretty weird special attacks. (Thunder and Flamethrower???)
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The spikes on its body will conduct electricity... Maybe... I dunno... =3=
Cool though..! :3!
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Lol, Aggron is rock/steel, so it gets x4 damage with fighting and ground (the move types which I consider as very common among competitive battling). From electric though, it gets normal damage, the steel doesn't make it weaker to electricity :)
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At first I did think that Steel weakened electric... XD!
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you'd think steel would make electricity weaker >.>
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Yes... but I think since the only move super effective on electric type pokemon was ground, they tried to limit the super effective coverage of electric type attacks... that's just my opinion.
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Skarmory !!!
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best is either registeel or bronzong
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Bronzong isn't that good of a Psychic type... :/
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Best steel type?
skarmory is good. covers his bases with the flying type, but is way weak to fire.
aggron's def is off the charts a lil too. i have one lvl 50 and his def is around 220, so he can take a hit unless the hit is a ground type or fighting type move. in that cases he is pretty much wasted.
personally, i prefer metagross because of the damage he can deal, but if you are looking for a steel type that can cover himself, empoleon is probably what you're looking for
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Scizor, cause he's badass
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I'll have to say Aggron because it looks like a bad ass and its defense
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Steelix is huge! Lol! ^_^!
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You guys are forgetting about special defense. One it from a special attacker and most of your favorite steel types are done for.
I choose Metagross because it has some of the highest overall stats, and its special defense isn't that low. It is also good in attack, but lacks speed. Other than that, Metagross is a good, powerful Pokemon with a good type.
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As I said earlier, each steel usually has a unique something about them that makes them better than others at a job.
Aggron has an amazing attack stat, and with STAB no-recoil Head Smash, he can really lay down the hurt. Metagross makes an excellent Agility user, having a pretty hefty attack stat underneath him. He can also learn explosion. Steelix makes a very great tank or physical wall. He's also not a half bad Curser, but don't expect it to happen often. Registeel, on the other hand, is a fantastic special wall. Scizor is a beautiful revenge killer with Choice Band STAB Bullet Punch. Bronzong is practically the ultimate utility 'mon. There is not much he can't do.
So, it depends on what you want.
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As I said earlier, each steel usually has a unique something about them that makes them better than others at a job.
Aggron has an amazing attack stat, and with STAB no-recoil Head Smash, he can really lay down the hurt. Metagross makes an excellent Agility user, having a pretty hefty attack stat underneath him. He can also learn explosion. Steelix makes a very great tank or physical wall. He's also not a half bad Curser, but don't expect it to happen often. Registeel, on the other hand, is a fantastic special wall. Scizor is a beautiful revenge killer with Choice Band STAB Bullet Punch. Bronzong is practically the ultimate utility 'mon. There is not much he can't do.
So, it depends on what you want.
Straight to the point, once again :)
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I'm notably good at that.
Steel is one of my favorite types, though. So, you could say I have an interest in it and its mechanics.
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I find it hard to believe that one of someone's favorite types is steel. It has a lot of weaknesses and almost no strengths. I guess the Pokemon that are partly steel type can be pretty good, but steel itself is not.
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Bronzong isn't that good of a Psychic type... :/
which is why this is best steel
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I find it hard to believe that one of someone's favorite types is steel. It has a lot of weaknesses and almost no strengths. I guess the Pokemon that are partly steel type can be pretty good, but steel itself is not.
Steel is easily the most flexible type in the entire game. There is literally not one other type it can be combined with to produce a bad result. Steel / Bug? Scizor. Steel / Psychic? Bronzong and Metagross. Steel / Fire? Heatran. All of those Pokemon are in OU because their typing gives them a huge advantage.
How many Pokemon do you see running around with Flying slapped on and rolling with it? Plus, Steel has the biggest resistance in the entire game. Dragon. Without Steel, Dragon would be such an overcentralising type it would be ridiculous. Not to mention that it can always make good use of its resistances with its hardy defenses.
And the argument for "bad attack" really can't be put on steel. It's put on the BST that GameFreak gave them. Most steel types have a ridiculous attack stat that can't be associated with their secondary typing.
TL;DR, I herd u dun liek steelz. I do, though.
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Rakit your so smart... >.>!
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Okay.. I was just mentioning that steel itself was bad. A Pokemon with just a steel type is weak to a few common types. Steel moves are also not good against anything except ice and rock. That's the point I was going for, but you took it above and beyond and now I can't really argue with you.
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Heh, I do that sometimes. I'll give you that steel doesn't have great coverage in the SE department. But, what resists steel? Quite a few don't.
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Yeah, Steel with an extra type would give it more weaknesses than strengths... :/
Oh wait... This is a whats the best forum...
Scarmory... :3 Can fly and avoid ground... ^_^
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but jirachi isn't an uber.....
anyway, i thin lucario is the best because it is a sweeper
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I find it hard to believe that one of someone's favorite types is steel. It has a lot of weaknesses and almost no strengths. I guess the Pokemon that are partly steel type can be pretty good, but steel itself is not.
Steel is easily the most flexible type in the entire game. There is literally not one other type it can be combined with to produce a bad result. Steel / Bug? Scizor. Steel / Psychic? Bronzong and Metagross. Steel / Fire? Heatran. All of those Pokemon are in OU because their typing gives them a huge advantage.
How many Pokemon do you see running around with Flying slapped on and rolling with it? Plus, Steel has the biggest resistance in the entire game. Dragon. Without Steel, Dragon would be such an overcentralising type it would be ridiculous. Not to mention that it can always make good use of its resistances with its hardy defenses.
And the argument for "bad attack" really can't be put on steel. It's put on the BST that GameFreak gave them. Most steel types have a ridiculous attack stat that can't be associated with their secondary typing.
TL;DR, I herd u dun liek steelz. I do, though.
/Agree
As far as bug/steel go. I love my Forretress/spinner and Scizor/Revenge killer.
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Steelix? that's the only steel pokemon I can remember :P
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Lucario, cause of moves he can learn, Aura Sphere, Dark Pulse, Dragon Pulse, Earthquake, Psychic, Force Palm, Flash Cannon, Etc.
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Probopass!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What other pokemon gots a 'stache!? :3
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I believe the best steel that I like would be Metagross. Its stats aren't that bad, and is very well rounded IMO
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I believe the best steel that I like would be Metagross. Its stats aren't that bad, and is very well rounded IMO
Metagross is by far the best steel type for me. It's an excellent physical sweeper, and nothing beats pulling the last ditch effort card that is Explosion to wipe the grin off someone's face (Mine doesn't have it though, due to the competitive clauses and such that I think work well for battling).
Scizor also has some competitive worth from what I've tried and seen, even though it's not on any of my teams. Plus, it has one of the cooler designs of the 2nd gen. :D
As for Steelix..... there's much better walls from my experience, I can tell you that. And that's all I can really ever see it being any use for.
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I'm surprised so many people are saying Registeel when the first post clearly said no legendary pokemon...
But anyways, my favorite steel pokemon would have to be Forretress. It has solid stats defense wise and can have some pretty good move sets considering the attacks that it learns.
(That, and I'm pretty sure nobody has picked it yet).
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Lucario he seems really good being also a fighting type
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Adding the fighting type just adds more weaknesses to Pokemon, and doesn't really add many resistances. However, Lucario does have good stats.
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Adding the fighting type just adds more weaknesses to Pokemon, and doesn't really add many resistances. However, Lucario does have good stats.
Not to mention his natural move pool.
Aura Sphere, Force Palm, Close Combat, Psychic, Dark Pulse, etc.
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These are all great suggestions. I'm trying to become an amazing Steel trainer.
My fav is Aron, because he is the cutest little thing, until he grows up and rapes your face! "Iron Tail!"
but I guess the best would have to be: Metagross. Because I think he can levitate, and he has a high SpDe stat to help counter the fire
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lucario because he is fighting type and a steel type
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Lucario, the Aura Pokemon!
but i also like Scizor because he looks pretty awesome
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Aggron is a good steel type. It gets STAB base 150 power head smash with no recoil because of rock head. its only downside is 4x weakness to fighting and ground.
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There are several good steel types in my opinion. Skarmory has great defense and is a well known physical tank. Bronzong is also an excellent tank. Metagross is a heavy hitter with a priority move that can take a few hits as well.
Scizor is an excellent sweeper that can also tank a bit with its many resistances and recovery through roost. Empoleon has one of the highest number of resistances out there, and also a good movepool.
Steel is a good tough type, and one of my favorites.
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Gah, all steel types are batsh*t annoying to fight without water-based attacks! I say Bronzong, only because it was by far the hardest steel type I ever took out.
But if we want to be technical, it would be Arceus as a steel type.
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Arceus is kind of an exception because it can be any type, but I consider it a normal type because it's the default type.
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Steelix easily! He personifies what a steel type is all about. Great defense and decent attack.
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Steelix easily! He personifies what a steel type is all about. Great defense and decent attack.
Don't forget terrible Special Defense and speed.
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You might say steel is like a hardcore rock type. More resistances, and the stat distribution is similar. The weaknesses are different, though, except for ground and fighting.
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Because, ya know, knowing muay tai means that you can punch through thick plates of steel or something. <.<
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Hey, I didn't make the rules. I just follow them.
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Well I know that. You're Mr. Smith. I can tell by your avi.
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I think jirachi is the best steel type :D
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Metagross hands down.
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steelix
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jirachi IS the best steel type, but skarmory is the best non legendary, and im too lazy to explain
why.
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jirachi IS the best steel type, but skarmory is the best non legendary, and im too lazy to explain
why.
Listen, as much as I'd love to instigate comraderie with one of the only other people here with a food item as their account name, I need to say:
If you aren't going to elaborate on why you think what you think, you're not being very helpful.
For instance, in my personal experience, I found Bronzong to be a consistently tougher opponent than skarmory. Have I been doing something wrong? If not, it seems to me that Bronzong is better. Is it stats? Move pool? Something else?
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Skarmory is just a wall. A thick wall of steel and needles.
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A big smelly jerk of a thick wall of steel and needles.
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Now now. Don't fault something for being good at what it was designed to do.
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Skarmory was designed to be a big smelly jerk of a thick wall of steel and needles?
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Scratch out the smelly and jerk part, and yes.
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I find that Bronzong would be a much more effective Physical and Special wall if it just had one thing Skarmory did: a reliable healing move. It does have Rest, and Sleep Talk for what that is worth. Still, playing the advocate, Resttalk does have a few advantages.
Roost: Instant healing move. Consistent. It only requires one turn to use. It actually sheds Skarmory's secondary typing. It also only takes up one move slot and leaves a lot of flexibility for move set options.
Resttalk: Instant healing for a full 100% health. Removes all permanent status effects and grants immunity to them. Makes Bronzong extremely durable against a slower team or a team that has been heavily paralyzed. Doesn't need Sleep Talk to work viably.
Moving on past that, however, I still believe Bronzong to be the better wall. Overall, I think it's higher dual tanking ability, amazingly diverse movepool, and sheer unpredictability make him the better candidate. It's also extremely resilient if you have a Wish user on your team.
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Metagross....
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Metagro- wait.
*looks at signature*
MAWILE.
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Mawile has always been a weird pokemon to me. It's a steel type that looks like a grass type, whose most powerful learned attack is the dark move crunch. Though I haven't really looked at it in a while and it may have learned a move more powerful than crunch by now.
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Mawile has always been a weird pokemon to me. It's a steel type that looks like a grass type, whose most powerful learned attack is the dark move crunch. Though I haven't really looked at it in a while and it may have learned a move more powerful than crunch by now.
Yeah. It's a weird one. I just love how cute it is though!
...huge monstrous jaws are cute, right?
Anyway, mine - on Platinum - knew Steel Head, Crunch, Brick Break and Swords Dance.
Probably the weakest Pokémon I had, but it wasn't bad at all. Just all my other Pokémon were God-like.
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Well, it is cute if seen from the other side :)
Someone posted this some time ago... I'll post it again :P
(http://i36.tinypic.com/jt6gyc.gif)
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I rest my case. Mawile is the best Steel-type Pokémon.
Oh, also, it's the only non-legendary steel-type Pokémon so far.
When Black and White come, that stupid double-gear Pokémon will also be a pure steel-type.
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That double gear pokemon makes me think it's the gen V version of Magnemite. You know how Gamefreak likes to come up with new versions of older generation pokemon to pad out the numbers.
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That double gear pokemon makes me think it's the gen V version of Magnemite. You know how Gamefreak likes to come up with new versions of older generation pokemon to pad out the numbers.
What on earth are you talking about?
*compares Venusaur and Torterra*
...oh.
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*compares Venusaur and Torterra*
...oh.
Yeah, but Venusaur is cool and torterra sucks.
Venasuar is my badass grandpa, but also has a flower on his back, making him that much more awesome.
Torterra looks like Venasuar's retarded brother.
Anyway, I change my mind. The best steel type is definitely a FEMALE probopass.
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I'm curious.
Why "FEMALE"?
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I'm curious.
Why "FEMALE"?
Think about it. What's the one thing probopass has that nosepass doesn't. Here's a hint: It's right under the nose, and the female has it, too.
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The flower on Venasaur's back does look better than the tree and what looks like a mountain on Torterra's back. I think grass and ground is an interesting combination, though. Plus wood hammer and earthquake make him a hard hitting pokemon.
Probably one of the most obvious instances of just reusing the same pokemon idea is the trio of Persian, Delcatty, and Purugly. Did we really need three normal type felines?
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Oh, also, it's the only non-legendary steel-type Pokémon so far.
There are only five Legendary Steel Pokemon in the games: Registeel, Jirachi, Dialga, Heatran, and Arceus holding a Steel Plate. The rest are not Legendary.
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He's talking about pure steel types.
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Yes, I am Ben. Thanks for saving me the painfulness of having to explain.
FrenchFry: Yes, literally about a second after I posted that I thought
"Oh right, the big Susan Boyle-type moustache."
I was gonna delete the post, but I kept it because I wanted you to realise how stupid I am.
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(http://afeatheradrift.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/stupid_people.jpg)
You're not stupid.
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(http://afeatheradrift.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/stupid_people.jpg)
You're not stupid.
That picture's stupid.
*THEY'RE everywhere.
chansey Bruce Willis.
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I like that pic, except it should be they're instead of there. [/grammar nazi]
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well, if I had to be obsessed by spelling, 'S', 'D' and 'D' in stupid, don't and dumb respectively should be in small letters and not capital letters...
Just saying...
I still think that Lucario and Metagross are the best steel type pokemons though...
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LAWL YOU GAIZ HAS FAIL NOOBZ LAWLZ!!1!11!
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I think the capitalizations there were for emphasis.
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Metagross is the best :P
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lucario not too slow can take a hit and wide move variation
peace