Pokemon Universe MMORPG
Creative Discussions => Roleplay Corner => Other Roleplay => Topic started by: Silver on April 11, 2011, 11:44:20 PM
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Wailord and I were thinking about making an RP for IRC. We would make our characters prior over the course of the week, and then when the weekend came around, we could all play it out when timezones don't really matter.
These sessions would take place until the RP finishes (which it will, as I have already have a set goal for the RP to progress towards), and then we can start again.
Story:
5 years ago, there was a terrible storm. All of the villagers fought against the avalanche that came from Mt. Aleph to the North.
A giant boulder fell, crushing half of the town of Vale. Killing most of your community.
After the accident, you dedicated your life to the research of Psynergy to learn the secrets of Alchemy. Practicing hard to learn the basics of the art, you begin to advance in the field of psynergy. Learning that the storm was no mere accident, you and a group of your friends decide to head into Mt Aleph to learn of why the events occured 5 years ago.
Update: class system:
This is just the character building system for now, the storyline (whih is done, i just dont feel like writing) will come later.
You are an Adept. A person who can utilize their mind to bend the elements to your will.
Each adept is associated with a planet, each planet has an element.
Mercury=Water
Venus=Earth
Mars=Fire
Jupiter=Wind
Each adept can manipulate these elements, which they call "Psynergy".
Each psynergy correlates to a planet, and again to an element.
Each character also has a fighting style, which are Warrior, and Mage.
Each have its own specialization for weapons.
Weapons
Earth Warrior: Longsword, Light Blade, Axe, Mace
Earth Mage: Light Blade, Staves
Fire Warrior: Longsword, Light Blade, Axe, Mace
Fire Mage: Light Blade, Staves
Wind Warrior: Claws, Light Blades
Wind Mage: Light Blade, Staves, Bows
Water Warrior: Longsword, Light Blade, Axe, Mace
Water Mage: Mace, Staves
Each class will have access to "utility psynergy" which can be used outside of battle, some can also be used during battle. Because utility psynergy is important, even though most utility psynergy can be figured out by looking at the name, ill explain them now. Many utility psynergy will not be avilable until the appropriate level of experience.
One might ask, "Some of this stuff our combat psynergy can do" and to you I say, you're character is fairly new to the Adept game, and therfore does not have complete control over his element's psynergy yet, there will be npc's in this RP that will teach you control, and therfore you will learn the psynergies below if you do not already.
Name Element Description Available at Start
Move Venus Moves an object Yes
Avoid Mercury Lowers enounter rate of monsters No
Burst Mars Destroys a smaller object No
Lift Venus Lifts and moves a small object a short distance No
Catch Venus Grabs an object at a distance And brings it to the user Yes
Cure
Poison Mercury Same effect as an "Antidote" Yes
Cyclone Jupiter Creates a light wind current to Clear the way of small objects No
Douse Mercury Puts out fires, fills things with water (Empty ponds, pots,etc) Yes
Force Venus Hits an object No
Frost Mercury Freezes an object Yes
Grind Venus Crushes large stone No
Growth Venus Causes plants to rapidly grow (Vines, trees, etc) Yes
Halt Jupiter Stops an object from moving for a short time No
Hover Jupiter Hovers in the air No
Lift Venus Perpetually holds an object in the air No
Mind read Jupiter Allows to to read the mind of someone you are touching Adepts can resist this. Yes
Parch Mars Evaporates water No
Pound Mars Slams an object into the ground No
Retreat Venus Teleports the party to where they entered the dungeon Yes
Reveal Jupiter Shows what the eyes cannot see No
Sand Venus Burrows into the sand, and allows the user to move aorund freely No
Teleport Mars Allows the part to teleport between discovered teleport circles No
Tremor Venus Creates a tremor to shake objects No
Whirlwind Jupiter Creates a small tornado that one can manipulate for a short period of time Yes
Healing psynergy can be used outside of battle, but I found it redundant.
Depending on what element and fighting style you choose, you will be assigned a class.
Earth
Warrior: Squire class
Mage: Shrine Maiden class
Fire
Warrior: Guard Class
Mage: Fire Seer Class
Wind
Warrior: Beastling Class
Mage: Wind Seer Class
Water
Warrior: Mariner class
Mage: Water Seer class
Level up system
Each class, after a number of levels, gets a class upgrade.
For example, lets take a look at the squire class:
Squire
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Knight
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Gallant
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Lord
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Slayer
There are items in the world that one can find to change their character to a unique class.
There are also hidden classes that are assigned when one collects enough djinn of the right element.
Djinn
Djinn are scattered throughout the world, exactly 18 for each element. You can only hold a maximum of 9 djinn to yourself, and you can only hold as many djinn as the person with the least number of djinn in your party +1. For example, there are 4(which there will be, we have enough) people in your party, 3 of them have 2 djinn, but the fourth only has one. The next djinn found must be given to the player with only one djinn. Afterwards, djinn are free game for whoever ifnds them.
Collecting djinn will boost your class if they are the same element as your character, as well as change it if you are not.
For example, a Squire class adept equips a mars djinn, that character is now a combination of fire and earth adept, they become a Brute class, and recieve access to some of both Fire and Earth Psynergy.
Of course, splitting yourself away from your home element will leave your character weaker than what they could be at that level if they remained specialized, but they now have access to a greater pool of psynergy. Mix and Match djinn to find a combination you like.
Djinn behaviour can be categorized in 3 ways; Set, Standby, and recover.
When a djinn is set, its elemental abilities affect the owner, boosting their current class or changing it, as well as permanently buffing them until their behaviour is changed. One can use a djinns ability on an enemy, and by doing this, it puts them in Standby.
For example, using the Venus Djinn "Flint" will cause you attack and do x2 damage for the turn.
When a djinn is in Standby, the player gets no equip bonus, and their class does not change. But, you will have access to summons.
The entire party can share djinn when in standby, and so, anyone can use any summon provided enough djinn are in standby mode. It is reccomened that you use summons in correlation to your element to do extra damage.
Summons utilize the power of the djinn for powerful spells that can exceed even the most powerful psynergy. When used, they put the djinn that were called into recovery.
Recovery is the behaviour a djinn enters after a summon is used, each djinn will leave the recovery state, and switch into the set state when their "Recovery timer" equals zero.
Recovery timer exists so that your djinn arent sent into set at the same time.
For every djinn that is used in a summon, the recovery timer will increase by one for each corresponding djinn.
Example: you summon Ramses, which costs 2 Venus Djinn. Those djinn will enter recovery, one will have their recovery timer to be 1, while the other will be 2. These decrease over time, as the battle progressesm as well as travelling outside of battle.
This gives you a basic understanding of the class system. If you have any questions regarding the class system, utility psynergy, or djinn, please join me in the #LiveRP channel before Game Day and I'll be happy to explain if im present. I'm also educating frenchfry and wailord on the subject so that if im not present, hopefully one of them are.
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As Silver said we would have to organise times, concidering time zones etc.
But it could work, if enough people are willing to participate :3
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Maybe. That's my contribution as of now :)
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That Idea sounds womanin' I'm in. But somehow I cant get on IRC because of being randomly banned for just entering >:(
EDIT: You would of been banned from the IRC for either, Abusive language towards members, Spaming, Flooding, or annoying staff. You also joined PU under a vulgar name which was changed due to its sexually innapropriate nature, which didn't leave a great impression on the staff.
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*inserts self into group*
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Sounds interesting. I might consider joining.
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Ok, so right now, we have Wailord and Frenchfry.
I will be the third, so we really only need 1 more to get this oging
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I'm in, so long as the timings suit me.
Also, theme?
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Well that makes 4. so we're good to go.
Ill add the setting tommorow.
I've also registered a channel for this event; #LiveRP
I'm thinking that this will be started at about 12:00 EDT -4 saturday.
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Goody! :) This is actually a great idea. More fast paced.
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I might join, it depends on the time and when I'll be able to. I work Saturdays, though, and I might not be able to be on at 12:00.
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The 12 is my time.
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I am in EDT too, if I'm not mistaken. Right now, it's 8:50 PM.
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So you are.
Hmm, ok, You'll have to join mid campaign, thats fine. When I post the setting, make your profile.
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Can I be in too? (UTC over here)
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I have no clue whether you have the skill requirements needed, nor the maturity needed for this RP. You've proven multiple times that you can't control yourself in the Chit Chat Thread, as well as I've never seen any form of writing from you.
The people I have approved I have been in multiple RP's with, and they all have met my expectations for what should be required in an RP.
You have until friday to change my opinion about you, or your request will be denied.
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I would enjoy as well! Please?
I live in NC, what timezone is that. I do have school, is it Sat or Friday?
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I would enjoy as well! Please?
I live in NC, what timezone is that. I do have school, is it Sat or Friday?
Im giving him till friday, the RP will be saturday
NC means nothing to a non American, try again Dark_Soul
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I would enjoy as well! Please?
I live in NC, what timezone is that. I do have school, is it Sat or Friday?
If you live in NH then you probably have an Eastern timezome like me. I'm guessing it's about 9:20-9:25 right now where you are?
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Ok, so Mr Pokemon and St Jimmy both have the same timezone as me, possibly darksoul if he answers yes to jimmy's question
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Oh and while I'm here can I be in it then?
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Confirmed RP List as of now:
Frenchfry
Wailord
Mr Pokemon
St. Jimmy
I'll have to see some of darkSouls's writing before I can confirm him.
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North Carolina. In United States. What is NH? Sorry I'm not more help.
And great. I can easily do Saturday.
Also it is 9:29 right now.
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Sorry, I meant NC. So yeah we differ by a few minutes.
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Ah. I see.
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Its impossible to differ by a few minutes only by hours.
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Well my clock said 9:33 when he said 9:29 but whatever you say. Maybe one of our clocks is just wrong.
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I want to join for sure :)
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Hmm, okay Ruby.
Frenchfry
Wailord
St Jimmy
Mr Pokemon
Ruby
Myself
Only 2 slots left kids, and declan might be taking one!
St. Jimmy i need your registered IRC username.
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Oo. I might be interested. If St.Jimmy wants the spot, i'll be happy to leave.
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Jimmy already has a spot.
There are 2 slots left, one possibly is going to declan
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:-\
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That post didnt help my opinion of you.
Strike one.
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......
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I don't know if i should commemorate you, or just say thats 2/3...
descisions, descisions....
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-sigh- I should leave before I do anything else.
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probably.
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k i'm going to sleep.
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kthxbai
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Thats exactly what I'm looking for. Realizing that you should stop.
You've helped yourself a little already.
Not much...but at least you have an example now.
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Hm... Interesting strategy, Silver. A tad blunt, but effective.
*Writes in notebook*
I'll inform Mister Irish of this. It may assist in his lessons.
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The one I use is St_Jimmy. I haven't registered it yet but I'll go do that now.
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I'm going to a party Saturday night (oooh look at me)
I'm unsure of the starting time, but I doubt I'll be able to be around for more than an hour. If I'm not, someone save the logs, it'll make an interesting read.
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Will do, that means there are 2 slots open
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Okay, I'll try to see if I can get in :)
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So am I in? Not trolling just wondering.
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Updated list:
1.Frenchfry
2.Wailord
3.Ruby
4.Mr. Pokemon
5.St. Jimmy
6.Myself
7._______
8._______
Possibly: jerry, darksoul, monzta, littlepony
Darksoul, i havent been in an rp with you yet, so i would like you to send me some of your best posts(posting them here will be fine) to see if you have the writingskill neccessary for me to deal with you. Same with Monzta.
Keep in mind that, if this goes well, we will have more of these, with more players, possibly even a second irc for almost a "preliminary" rp followed by a "finals" rp.
Like, some characters may die, and thats when theothers move on, after eonugh people die, the two irc's bind, and continue the story to completeion.
Im now changing the main topic to explain class system, read it, and then create your profile, followed by sending it to me for acceptance.
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There might be some difficulty getting some people to kill themselves though.
I will send some of my posts. Some from different RP's.
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Oh no, it wont, because this will be a very, very, lax, Dungeons and Dragons like game. Im going to be Moderatting everything, including health, psynergy, djinn, damage and exp.
You can very easily die in this if you do it wrong.
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Oh, I see now. Sounds exciting
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People that have been accepted can begin to make their profiles, but leave the bio empty, as you'll have to wait for me to post the story part of this RP to make it. If you are unsure what planet you wish to be under, remember that:
Venus=earth
mercury=water
mars=fire
jupiter=wind
Name:
RP Name:
Planet Affiliation:
Warrior or Mage:
Personality:
Appearence [images reccomended]:
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Update party list:
1.Frenchfry
2.Wailord
3.Silver
4.Mr. Pokemon
5.St. Jimmy
6.Ruby
7.DarkSoul
8.________
If anyone opts out after the 8th person is selected, i shall reopen application.
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So, is this RP only happening on a certain day of the week? If it is, I would join(If you would except my writing skills.).
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Yes, once, maybe twice a week, but alot of planning has to go into something like this, so im trying to get everything together for saturday, sepcecially because im busy thursday and friday, which will really make this a biotch tommorow.
If you don't get in right away, if a character dies, someone may take their spot. So even if you don't get in right away, send me a profile, you may just enter later in the campaign if all goes well.
I've also registered an IRC channel of my own for this event; #LiveRP
to join it(an this will be the simplest way for you all for now), log into the pokemon-universe irc as normal, and then type /join #LiveRP, and you're done.
Keep in mind that on game day, only those who have been accpeted into the rp will be able to speak in the rp, as I will have a filter that will prevent anyone else from doing so.
St. Jimmy, i need you to register your name in IRC, or you will not be able to participate in this RPm, and your place shall reopen.
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Name: DarK_SouL (Chat Name: DarkSou1)
RP Name: Kuro
Planet Affiliation: Jupiter
Warrior or Mage: Mage
Personality: Nice if you don't do anything to him, mean if you do do something to him. Speedy as well.
Also how do you register your new username, if you want to change?
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Yes, once, maybe twice a week, but alot of planning has to go into something like this, so im trying to get everything together for saturday, sepcecially because im busy thursday and friday, which will really make this a biotch tommorow.
If you don't get in right away, if a character dies, someone may take their spot. So even if you don't get in right away, send me a profile, you may just enter later in the campaign if all goes well.
I've also registered an IRC channel of my own for this event; #LiveRP
to join it(an this will be the simplest way for you all for now), log into the pokemon-universe irc as normal, and then type /join #LiveRP, and you're done.
Keep in mind that on game day, only those who have been accpeted into the rp will be able to speak in the rp, as I will have a filter that will prevent anyone else from doing so.
St. Jimmy, i need you to register your name in IRC, or you will not be able to participate in this RPm, and your place shall reopen.
I won't be able to be on this Saturday or Sunday, so I can just wait. I'm trying to improve my writing skills, and I want to spend a longer time making my character anyway.
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Jimmy. if you cannot play on saturday, I'll have to be fair and open your spot up again, so i will ask you again in case you want to change your answer:
Are you sure you want to give your spot up?
Send all profiles to me via private message for approval, ill update the skeleton as i forgot starting weapon, your starting weapon is restricted to what you are specialized in, but you can change between any of your specialized weapons later in the game.
Name:
RP Name:
Planet Affiliation:
Warrior or Mage:
Starting weapon:
Personality:
Appearence[images reccomended]:
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I should be able to be on Saturday. So don't count me out. When do you plan on starting it though? Like evening or morning or what?
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you're in the same timezone as me, so its at 12:00 noon.
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Profile time! Wailord, Mr pokemon, and DarkSoul have gone and given me their profiles.
Name: DarK_SouL
RP Name: Kuro
Planet Affiliation: Venus
Warrior or Mage: Mage
Starting weapon: Mace (enchanted weapons will be hard to find, and already exist, giving you one to start would be unfair)
Personality: Nice if you don't get on his bad side. Quick as well.
Appearance[images recommended]:
(http://images.mmosite.com/photo/2009/07/15/wowa38200Hs8YPMwG.jpg)
Name: Wailord
RP Name: Vries
Planet Affiliation: Jupiter
Warrior or Mage: Mage
Personality: Vries does not believe in inequality. Justice and balance is her only concern.
Appearence:
(http://i712.photobucket.com/albums/ww123/LOLLY_flowers/ANIME/largeAnimePaperscans_Generations-of.jpg)
Name: Mr Pokemon
RP Name: Elden
Planet Affiliation: Venus
Warrior or Mage: Warrior
Personality: Brave but quiet; will stand in harms way.
Appearance: (http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u76/brokeninside_08/anime%20guys/blondejapanese.jpg)
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Name:Silver
RP Name: Matthew
Planet Affiliation: Venus
Warrior or mage: Warrior
Personality: Headstrong, determined.
Starting weapon: Longsword
(http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100615182951/goldensun/images/thumb/f/fa/GSDDMatthew.jpg/271px-GSDDMatthew.jpg)
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Hopefully we can get some Mars and Jupiter adepts, or this campaign might end badly...
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Additional infromation about classes:
Venus and Mars warriors are heaviest hitters, they do alot of physical damage, but have the least PP(Psynergy points) of any other class.
Mars Mages have some of the heaviest hitting psynergy, but relatively low PP for a mage
Jupiter mages have access to the most powerful psynergy, but tend to be weaker physically
Mercury and Jupiter have the highest maximum PP
Mercury has the best heal spells
Venus is very average for psynergy, it has the worst heal spells, but has fairly decent combat psynergy, and can use revive(revive is high level, Gallant class and up).
Most mars psynergy is combat based.
Venus mages are related to far east culture: the idea of ki, tranquility, and whatnot. Very oriental style.
Jupiter warriors are only available from a unique beast clan.
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This is the world we will be progressing through, everyone has access to this map ingame
(http://www.oocities.org/goldensunharmony/thelostage/gs2map.JPG)
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I can't wait to get started. Also, the weapon my character is holding is not my starting weapon (For fairly obvious reasons)
This (http://getasword.com/1170-2312-large/caribbean-pirate-cutlass-sword.jpg) is what he will be using. I figured it should be a simple design, and a cutlass is a relatively good sword for defensive purposes.
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A good choice for a starting weapon. Believe me, as soon as you start finding enchanted blades, you'll drop it like a rock.
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The elements have a bi polar relationship with eachother.
Venus is weak against Jupiter, but venus is also super effective against jupiter
Mars and mercury are the same.
you are resistant to the element that you are born under, as well as the element your element is symbiotic with.
Venus has a relationship with mars
jupiter has a relationship with venus
so, if you are a jupiter adept, you deal extra damage against venus, and are resistant to jupiter and mercury
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Remember, kids...
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Uh...
Actually, I respect everyone in this enough to assume you don't need common sense reminders. That's a nice feeling.
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The elements have a bi polar relationship with eachother.
Venus is weak against Jupiter, but venus is also super effective against jupiter
Mars and mercury are the same.
you are resistant to the element that you are born under, as well as the element your element is symbiotic with.
Venus has a relationship with mars
jupiter has a relationship with venus
so, if you are a jupiter adept, you deal extra damage against venus, and are resistant to jupiter and mercury
That's a little bit confusing, because you don't have Mercury up there.
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I made a mistake
Venus is weak against Jupiter, but venus is also super effective against jupiter
Mars and mercury are the same.
you are resistant to the element that you are born under, as well as the element your element is symbiotic with.
Venus has a relationship with mars
jupiter has a relationship with mercury
so, if you are a jupiter adept, you deal extra damage against venus, and are resistant to jupiter and mercury
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There are only 18djinn for each element, and these will be key to the campaign, so watch what class you choose.
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RP Name: Aaron
Planet Affiliation: Mercury
Warrior or Mage: Warrior
Personality: Patient, tolerant, and generally helpful.
Appearence [images reccomended]:
(http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af196/lolwut_/RedMageResized.png)
Ignore the staff, he's definitely gonna have a sword.
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(http://www.centurymartialarts.com/portals/0/Images/Products/123749-LG.JPG)
Starting weapon kthnx
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Katana...Light blade.
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Silver has decided to add a small part of the story to the main post, this is all you really need to know before you start.
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Sounds really interesting.
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Since I'm not a member yet, I'll have to post everything here. I'll make my profile tomorrow morning, since I have to go to bed. I'll be a fire mage. Hopefully, I'll have a dream that will help me think of an awesome personality and stuff.
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Name: Ruby
RP Name: Ruby
Planet Affiliation: Mercury
Warrior or Mage: Mage
Personality: Ruby is very quiet and gentle, but very protective and gets berserk when it comes to friendship or family.
Appearence [images reccomended]: (http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p149/15animegirl/water_elf.jpg)
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ok, we still have no fire adept.
Thay have few utility, but they still have really damn strong combat psynergy.
Like, volcano, and flare wall, and dragon fume...
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I would like to change my character to a fire adept.
(http://www.p1cture.it/images/14626806008389479422.png)
Does he look Mars-y to you now?
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Ok, im going to organise who is what cause im getting confused:
Silver: Venus Warrior
DarkSoul: Venus Mage
Frenchfry: Mercury Warrior
Ruby: Mercury Mage
St. Jimmy: Jupiter Warrior
Jerry: Mars Warrior
Wailord: Jupiter Mage
Mr. Pokemon: Mars Warrior
Ok, all slots are filled, everyone else, sorry. We need to keep this small, and we don't even know if it'll work out at all. If it does, be quick, and br ready to apply, because if all goes well, we'll be doing it again.
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I didn't see you post my profile anywhere Silver...
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My inbox is flooded, I have to get everything together, crap is flying everwhere, and Im nowhere near done for saturday.
You're profile went a little under the radar.
Ill make a master post of the characters later
UPDATE: Time has been adjusted to 1PM EDT instead of 12 EDT, so everything is pushed back by an hour.
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Update: class upgrade sheets are as follows, what they actually do with respect to your stats will be shown later
(http://p1cture.it/images/15537955574751355888.jpg)
(http://p1cture.it/images/78277584964373269304.jpg)
(http://p1cture.it/images/35365537901527859752.jpg)
(http://p1cture.it/images/67562448809639568205.jpg)
(http://p1cture.it/images/71972623701330443766.jpg)
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Man...I'm too late :\
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If anyone wants my spot they can have. I didn't have any idea, that it was gonna be like this. Still great idea Silver, and good luck you guys!
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Okay DarkSoul is out theres a slot open again
Silver
Frenchfry
Wailord
Ruby
St.Jimmy
Jerry
Mr. Pokemon
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But then it closed because im getting an IRL friend to help because the work i need to do in 3 days is abosultely DAUNTING.
If I dont get his help, im going to have to postpone the RP for a week.
And noone wnats that, except the potential 8th person.
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I want it, because I have a birthday party on Saturday.
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So go have fun at your birthday party, dont spend it here.
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I meant that I want you to have to move it to next Saturday, so that I can be on the computer when you start.
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We're saving the log so that people that weren't there can still read what happened.
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Update: when i actually get around to making the base stats, this is how the classes will multiply them. remember to scroll to the right for both these and the last djinn update :D
(http://p1cture.it/images/94815664317360345767.jpg)
(http://p1cture.it/images/50394110536395252411.jpg)
(http://p1cture.it/images/97387862509057730769.jpg)
(http://p1cture.it/images/52042651481112114905.jpg)
(http://p1cture.it/images/27094985114452778968.jpg)
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Nice job Silver. Waiting for the base stats now :)
Now, the only thing I think is needed is exp gained through battles (and exp required for levelling up) and stats ups on leveling... >.<
If only I could work out a script. Oh btw, I'll join the RP later on. I'm quite busy this Saturday and once I finally get home, I'll be watching 007 Quantum of Solace (which I haven't seen yet, I know -.- )
EDIT: Silver, I'd advise you create separate threads for quick reference now.
1. Profiles
2. Game Data
I took the profiles part and here's the pastebin: http://pastebin.com/sGuxJjdy
Wailord took the Data part. He should be giving a link to you now.
You post it, so that you can edit later on yourself, okay?
EDIT2: Forgot to say that the pic of Fry was edited, and I added my profile to the list :)
EDIT3: I forgot that DarK_SouL will not be in -.- It's in the pastebin, so you'll have to delete it yourself.
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My irl friend changed plans so theres a slot opeen again.
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Alrighty Silver. It would probably be a good idea to post this in a seperate thread
http://pastebin.com/b22gKz0p
Ive collected all your data and condensed it into one file.
Have a look at it :)
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I would love to participate if you would have me. Although I'll have to do a bit of studying for my upcoming exams, I'm sure I could make time for some RP 8)
Cheers, Genbor
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Base Stats
HP PP Att Def Agi Lck
Silver 30 20 13 6 8 3
Mr.Pokemon 33 18 11 8 6 2
Wailord 28 24 8 4 11 4
St. Jimmy 29 21 11 5 10 4
Jerry 29 21 12 5 9 4
Ruby 29 23 9 5 7 5
Frenchfry 30 19 11 7 6 3
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Okay, but we really need to work on the storyline.
In the IRC Wailord got his bow burned then used it against the snakes... which by the way, weren't supposed to be there...
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Yeshh, I dont quite understand the Dijjin system either
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They'll be there when you get them. It'll be easier once you start using them :)