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Title: Screw you red gyarados
Post by: xhizor8201 on August 09, 2010, 06:20:21 PM
I spent like an hour fishing for that stupid gyarados but it never came. The highest level magikarp i saw was a lv. 90. Does anyone knoe a better way to get it?
Title: Re: Screw you red gyarados
Post by: Jerry on August 09, 2010, 07:30:46 PM
If you get HeartGold or SoulSilver, you'll get one easily by going to the lake at the top North of the map. (In my bad translated english version of Silver long, long ago, it was called Lake Ika, I forgot it's name in HGSS)
Title: Re: Screw you red gyarados
Post by: xhizor8201 on August 09, 2010, 07:32:41 PM
Im talking about platinum version. I know red gyarados is in silver and gold, hes in the lake by mahoggany town(something like that).
Title: Re: Screw you red gyarados
Post by: Jerry on August 09, 2010, 07:34:22 PM
Well, it's nearly impossible (around 1/8146 chance...)
Title: Re: Screw you red gyarados
Post by: xhizor8201 on August 09, 2010, 08:31:52 PM
How do you know? All i know is that you have to consecutivley fish in resort area and eventually itll come out.
Title: Re: Screw you red gyarados
Post by: Declan_23 on August 09, 2010, 10:26:08 PM
Actually, because of the way the odds are worked out (even if you come accross 8145 gyaradoses, the chance will still be 1/8146) there is no guarentee of ever finding one.
I hope you had fun wasting hours of your time :D
Title: Re: Screw you red gyarados
Post by: Frenchfry on August 09, 2010, 10:41:58 PM
H.
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I think this is the wrong location for this thread.
Title: Re: Screw you red gyarados
Post by: Raikt on August 10, 2010, 06:02:06 AM
/moved

What you are looking for is known as a "Shiny" Pokemon; meaning, the coloring is different from normal Pokemon. In GSC and HGSS, you can catch one via the storyline at the Lake of Rage. However, in the other games, you are limited to the same chance each time as stated by Declan.

You're better off breeding or trading for it, really.
Title: Re: Screw you red gyarados
Post by: Monzta on August 10, 2010, 12:24:05 PM
I caught one, I only surfed around in the lake for half an hour..
Title: Re: Screw you red gyarados
Post by: LeoReborn on August 10, 2010, 02:12:10 PM
If you breed 2 non-Shinies, the chance of getting a shiny is actually greater than trying to hunt for it,
Others work like this.

1 shiny-1 non = better chance of Hatching shiny.

2 shiny = larger chance of shiny, not guaranteed.

I think theres an item that increases the odds further, but im not sure.

What your talking about is a Red Gyrados, if you Have either HG/SS (Not GSC) you can catch the Gyrados, and trade it over to DPPt.
Title: Re: Screw you red gyarados
Post by: xhizor8201 on August 10, 2010, 04:27:27 PM
Well im pretty sure if they mention the red gyarados in the beginning of diamond, im pretty sure its gotta be in pearl.
Title: Re: Screw you red gyarados
Post by: LeoReborn on August 10, 2010, 04:30:18 PM
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Title: Re: Screw you red gyarados
Post by: xhizor8201 on August 10, 2010, 04:53:55 PM
Whats with the consecutive smileys unbreakable?
Title: Re: Screw you red gyarados
Post by: Jerry on August 10, 2010, 05:47:21 PM
If you breed 2 non-Shinies, the chance of getting a shiny is actually greater than trying to hunt for it,
Others work like this.

1 shiny-1 non = better chance of Hatching shiny.

2 shiny = larger chance of shiny, not guaranteed.

I think theres an item that increases the odds further, but im not sure.

What your talking about is a Red Gyrados, if you Have either HG/SS (Not GSC) you can catch the Gyrados, and trade it over to DPPt.

Are you sure of that? I never encountered this. I'll be happy to know your source, if it's not too much asked, please :)
Title: Re: Screw you red gyarados
Post by: Raikt on August 10, 2010, 06:59:20 PM
The odds of getting a shiny through breeding, if you use two Pokemon from the same game, are exactly the same as trying to catch the Pokemon. It's only considered easier because of the speed at which you can breed and hatch eggs. (If it being shiny is the only thing you are looking for.)

However, if you breed a Pokemon from your game with a Pokemon acquired from a different country that speaks another language. (Breeding an American Eevee with a Japanese Ditto), then your chances of haching a shiny are increased to 1/2048. This is referred to as the Masuda Method.

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Masuda_method
Title: Re: Screw you red gyarados
Post by: Jerry on August 10, 2010, 07:08:51 PM
The odds of getting a shiny through breeding, if you use two Pokemon from the same game, are exactly the same as trying to catch the Pokemon. It's only considered easier because of the speed at which you can breed and hatch eggs. (If it being shiny is the only thing you are looking for.)

However, if you breed a Pokemon from your game with a Pokemon acquired from a different country that speaks another language. (Breeding an American Eevee with a Japanese Ditto), then your chances of haching a shiny are increased to 1/2048. This is referred to as the Masuda Method.

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Masuda_method

Wow, so there are some tweaks about it... it's nice to know though... cause I've got Japanese HG/SS ;D

(not that I'll now be doing thousands of eggs just to obtain a shiny... it's just a loss of precious training time, for the time being that is)
Title: Re: Screw you red gyarados
Post by: LeoReborn on August 10, 2010, 07:58:08 PM
The highest chances of Shinies via Breeding, are 1/64.
Title: Re: Screw you red gyarados
Post by: Jerry on August 10, 2010, 09:18:34 PM
The highest chances of Shinies via Breeding, are 1/64.

Now you got me curious...

how? :-[
Title: Re: Screw you red gyarados
Post by: LeoReborn on August 10, 2010, 09:27:33 PM
The highest chances of Shinies via Breeding, are 1/64.

Now you got me curious...

how? :-[
Everything has to be perfect, Using Masuda's Method, And having all the right conditions.

On Raikt's link, at the bottom, theres an Article on Shines in staggering detail.
Title: Re: Screw you red gyarados
Post by: Jerry on August 10, 2010, 09:32:56 PM
Umm... I'll look at this 'xor' thingy later on... and I don't even know how to view the secret ID, if that is possible. I guess I'll see this some other time...
Title: Re: Screw you red gyarados
Post by: LeoReborn on August 10, 2010, 09:36:51 PM
XOR!!!!!!! idk what it means,

No you can't see it, hence its name: SecretID.
Title: Re: Screw you red gyarados
Post by: Raikt on August 11, 2010, 03:41:49 AM
There are only two ways to see your secret ID: either via using an external device (Gameshark, Action Replay), or by using a long and complicated math formula.

http://www.smogon.com/ingame/rng/deducing_secret_id

If you follow that guide, you can figure out your secret ID. However, most find it not worth the effort. I found it fun to figure out mine.
Title: Re: Screw you red gyarados
Post by: Frenchfry on August 11, 2010, 04:58:20 AM
Uh... 'scuse me for sounding newfag-ish, but what is a secret ID used for?
Title: Re: Screw you red gyarados
Post by: LeoReborn on August 11, 2010, 03:40:02 PM
The odds of getting a shiny through breeding, if you use two Pokemon from the same game, are exactly the same as trying to catch the Pokemon. It's only considered easier because of the speed at which you can breed and hatch eggs. (If it being shiny is the only thing you are looking for.)

However, if you breed a Pokemon from your game with a Pokemon acquired from a different country that speaks another language. (Breeding an American Eevee with a Japanese Ditto), then your chances of haching a shiny are increased to 1/2048. This is referred to as the Masuda Method.

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Masuda_method

Wow, so there are some tweaks about it... it's nice to know though... cause I've got Japanese HG/SS ;D

(not that I'll now be doing thousands of eggs just to obtain a shiny... it's just a loss of precious training time, for the time being that is)

In raikts link go to the link at the bottom, 'shinies' Start reading.
Title: Re: Screw you red gyarados
Post by: Raikt on August 11, 2010, 05:08:54 PM
To sum it up succinctly, without going into too much detail: your secret ID is used to abuse the RNG. (Random Number Generator) present in the Pokemon games. Using your secret ID, and a program you can get on your computer, it's possible to guarantee the IV's, shininess, and other attributes of a wild (or egg) Pokemon before you encounter it.