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Pokémon Discussion => General Chat => Topic started by: loudskies on October 13, 2011, 04:29:42 PM
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What is Your opinion about Black and Whites series? I hate it. Brock is gone. No Original Characters are left. Diamond and Pearl > Sinnoh League Victors 4ever :( For the most part I like it, except for the fact that everybody was replaced, with lame excuses too!
*Brock Becomes this never before heard of, 'Pokemon Doctor'
*Dawns Buneary becomes a fashion model?! WTF?
*How they killed off my hope of Dawn and Brock being carried over into Black and white by saying,
Dawn: 'Hey, maybe I will come back to kanto with you and brock!'
Dawn: 'oh wait Never mind, because my Rabbit is becoming a Fashion Designer!'
Brock: 'Last two episodes of the Season, changing my motives, ima become Doctor instead of WHY I WENT WITH ASH IN THE FIRST PLACE, I will not become a breeder, see you 11 Years of Plot.
Ash: KGUIS IMA GO TO UNOVA NOW K GOOD BYEEE.
*I think the way they Transitioned into this season was Stupid.
Your opinions?
*Inb4mistywasthebestandpokemonsuckedafterjohto
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Well, I agree it are lame excuses, but I don't really care about the fact they left. I hated Brock from the start, and Dawn I liked better than May, but she ain't no Misty :'( The new people accompanied by Ash aren't that great either though. Dent is just annoying and I can live with Iris, but that's it. The series as a whole are a bit worse than the last one, but not too much. I mostly watch them out of nostalgia, because I don't like Ash's childish battle strategies and behavior.
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Pokemon has dropped in quality after the first season in kanto.
Let's face it, to escape character development Misty was dropped for other girls. Ash always remained the same (No character development here). And Brock is the only one that developed but, they turned him into some uber pathetic doctor...
Then there is black/white. The only thing I liked is the seriousness of Team Rocket. That was great, until the writers said chansey it. The new girl is prolly the most annoying one yet, and the dude with green hair is just as obnoxious. I mean come on, Pokemon Connoisseur?
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whatever happens misty was the greatest person to ever acompany ash and she needs to come back to him and they need to fall in love lol anyway the guy charcter who travles with ash now is a pretty good battler and is better than tracie and brock
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Finally...a thread like this was made so I can rant about the anime!! :D
I really do not like Best Wishes at all. I don't like how they played out the DP series for so long--even taking a year for Ash to get from his 7th to 8th gym. They made the Sinnoh Leuage tournament so exciting with Ash vs Paul (Paul should have won in my opinion because he actually doesn't battle like a freaking idiot) only to drop it all in one episode by giving Ash's next opponent a Darkrai AND and Latios. Now, I can kinda understand giving a new character a good reason to be incredibly strong by giving him a Darkrai, but the Latios was just pure laziness one the writers' part. There was no closure or even a logical explination as to why Brock (who barely has any qaulifications to become a doctor) would give up his dream of being a pokemon breeder after about 13 years and leave Ash. The only reason I was okay with Dawn leaving and going to travel in Hoenn was that it foreshadowed a possible remake of Ruby and Saphire. The DP series was horribly ended.
Now, on to the Best Wishes. I like how they are switching up the roles with Iris and Cilan. Iris isn't the typical coordinator girl (thank Arceus that they didn't make her do pokemon musicals) and Cilan isn't the typical supporting male despite doing almost exactly what Brock did for 13 years. I also like how Team Rocket have become serious instead of the horrible excure for comic relief that they have been doing for so long.
Now what I do not like is that Ash has obviously not grown as a character at all. Even though he went through every Japan-centric pokemon region with his Pikachu, it was easily beaten by a brand new trainer and his very inexperienced Snivy just because he couldn't use electric attacks. Ash has consistently shown how poor a trainer he is while in Unova such as picking attacks seemingly at random and lossing to Trip twice.
[spoiler]What really made me mad was watching the Don Battle Tournament arc. In the arc, Ash used his Snivy against a Paniward, disregarding that Snivy was at a type disadvantage. Ash's attract strategy failed because the Paniward was also a female. Ash failed to check this beforehand. The only reason Ash was able to win this battle was because the writers felt that he needed to win...like every other battle that he shouldn't be winning. Ash then goes on to fight Iris and her Excadrill. Despite Excadrill being sent out first, Ash decides to use Pikachu. As one would expect Excadrill won the battle. This arc showed that Ash has not learned from his journey at all and has not gotten any better as a trainer. [/spoiler]
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Thanks for spoiling for those who watch the english dub Noah.
So,shoot me cause I like watching the english dub over the japanese.
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If we had a spoler button like other forums do, I would use it. I still needed to get that rant out there.
EDIT: Found the spolier button! :D
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Thanks for pushing the spoiler button Noah,but I can't be unspoiled once I have been spoiled.
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also in an earlier episode it wouldn't listen to her at all. Did i miss something there?
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Not sure if this is spoiling...
[spoiler]After being harshly defeated by a "Dragon Buster", Excadrill remembers how well him and Iris worked together back when Iris was still in the dragon village. Apparently, Excadrill didn't listen to Iris because they suffered a defeat from Drayden. Excadrill then decides to listen to Iris again and they rechallenge the "Dragon Buster". [/spoiler]
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See, I missed that episode.
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if pokemon were real ash would be a loud mouth nosey nobody and i'd be the greatest flying trainer alive...anyway i dont really watch pokemon anymore lol they tripped out when i was in jail watching it they hated it but couldnt do nothing about it but i do like that cilian guy and giving that other guy darkrai was stupid in my oppinion and unfair and cythia shoulda at least beat darkrai but they said he completed the rest of the tourney only using darkrai....i think cythia coulda took darkrai and latios
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It is really depressing Brock is gone, Brock was an amazing character, he never got old, his comic relief and his constant 'random boners' were Crazy funny, he also had a slight seriousness, and he was a developed and expanded character, he was brilliant, then after the Sinnoh League Tournament, he runs off and becomes a Doctor.. I hate Cilan, I really do, Brock should have really stayed, and Dawn shouldn't have been lolscrapped, or they should have added White to the Mix, Iris is a pathetic excuse of a character, she is annoying, and a pathetic attempt to remake Misty.
Notice; Both Companions are once again Gym leaders.
Notice; The Female starts off as Exclusively using one type.
It is rather annoying what they did with that. They pathetically attempted to add a traveling Gym Leader and create the rivalry Misty had with Ash, it won't be recreated, and most certainly was a Pathetic attempt.
In my Opinion, May was a step up from Misty, having Pokemon Contests and adding more Variety to the show, another realm of something Similar to the Pokemon League. Dawn was a step up from May, Pokemon Contests, and a couple more Persistent rivals, Dawn was the Peak of the Pokemon side-kick Girl characters in My opinion, she had an amazing personality, they used what they learned from May & Misty, and they created a good character, even though Diamond and pearl was stuck at a standstill for quite a while, it was still excellent.
You know what they could have done with white? They could have added a decent female character, used what they learned from Dawn, May, and everyone before her, Iris isn't good, they thought, "maybe if we do this, it won't seem repetitive", No, shut up, again, Iris looks annoying, is annoying, and everything she says is -annoying-
I will put it bluntly.
What I don't like about this series is Two out of three of the Main characters.
Also, Ash's Pikachu destroyed a Latios just 1-3 Weeks before he fought the Snivy, He has all kinds of non-electric attacks, I know every region Ash resets, and Pikachu Mentally goes back to level 5. but that is just ridiculous, a Pokemon of four Leagues, 32 Gym badges, four Orange Symbols, and Conquered the battle frontier, loses to a level 5 Snivy? my Pikachu would do just fine without his electric attacks, and mine are pretty much the same as Ash's Pikachu's.
I know this post was long. but yes :imdisappointedbro:.
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Loudskies I completely agree with you. Maybe Ash should be more like Paul and actually teach his pokemon moves instead of them learning the moves on their own. Pikachu should not have had to rely on electric attacks to fight a Snivy. The main thing that gets me mad is the fact that Ash just doesn't learn anything from his journey. He's gone through 4 leauges, 32 gyms, the Orange Islands, and the Battle Frontier and still makes the same stupid mistakes as if he just became a trainer yesterday.
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I watched like 3 episodes and gave up on Pokemon show completely.
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I've never finished watching battle frontier, it got way too boring for me. So no, i have not seen best wishes, but if they continued doing the same things and with even less interesting sidekicks, (don' get me wrong, i liked May & Max, the whole sibling rivalry was cute and fun, but no one can replace Misty imo) i can see the show going downhill.
I can understand why Ash always starts over in a new region only with pikachu and new companions, and why ash is the same as he was in season 1. The producers probably want to focus on kids who watch the show for the first time or have been watching since not long ago, every year they get a new audience because the concept is appealing for children.
So, they are going to keep doing things this way until the pokemon brand is not profitable anymore, which is not in the near future.
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First Unova appearance was a Legendary (Zekrom)... nuff said...
I saw that episode some time in the beginning August... haven't seen 1 episode after that in fear it is another B&W.
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Summary of this season so far
10% Plot moving.
90% Fillers
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pokemon is the greatest anima ever made and is too expensive for shonnen jump to afford....not me this is some arguement a fool who seriously makes straight A's said to me i laughed in his face...and he went on to say naruto was a stupid animae that makes no sense
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I just don't get the anime anymore.I always ask myself on saturdays "why am I watching this?".The reason gets me to look foward to the weekend.
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i only watch it cuz i need to learn or keep up with the new generation cuz i cant buy the game...lol i've watched the game and there are not even 6 pokemon i like from black and white so why buy it. still i watch it to learn about the region and new pokemon.
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Well there are a couple of funny moments so far in the series.
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yeah i agree with ice warrior. every saturday at 8:00 i ask myself why do i even watch this anime its doesnt make sense or wtf just happen.
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In my opinion from the first few episodes I saw, Ash suffered braindamage not knowing how to catch a Pokémon at all, while in the diamond/pearl series he was the know-it-all guy towards Dawn. But next to that the overall storyline seemed a bit better...
But I gotta say about the diamond and pearl/galactic battle seasons, those were very repetitive, I got sick of Dawn feeling like a total failure all the time, basically every episode had the same kind of content only the story diffrent told.
- They travel
- Find a place
- A person/pokemon has problems and gets explained or not.
- Ash n Co go help him/her/it out
- team rocket focuses the goods/pokemon/pikachu
- team rocket gets beaten up and blasted away.
- problem all of a sudden gets solved because: team rocket made the trouble/when team rocket got beaten up the main problem was solved.
Wooohooo... Amazing...
Point is just that they kinda lost their touch for stories there, because this anime and game is getting quite 'dried-up' I love pokémon for the gameplay. And I did like the anime, but the anime kinda went down to childish level with repetive story base as most children's cartoons do.
What I liked were the contests as these were amazing and fresh instead of battles only. Those were the only episodes I liked to watch in the Hoenn and D/P series. For the rest I only watch pokémon when it's on TV at the moment I'm watching TV.
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Thats fifth gen anime in a nutshell,minus Team Rocket blasting off.They use jetpacks now to avoid the humiliation.
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This series was seriously a Bummer. I heard they are doing Two episodes to check up on brock & Dawn.
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yeah that the episode i got to see.