Pokemon Universe MMORPG
Creative Discussions => Roleplay Corner => Topic started by: Jerry on April 02, 2014, 09:33:48 PM
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Thanks to the members who wanted to make the RP section more active, I decided to hold an election to nominate a moderator (and make it a bit fun in the process, or maybe I just want to try hosting an election :P).
Eligibility:
- Members with at least 50 forum posts can nominate themselves.
- There is no karma restriction for the nominees.
Some other stuff:
- Nominees can write a little (freely editable) introduction to describe why they might make a good moderator (up to them).
- Nominations are not binding, in the sense that any nominee can withdraw at any point in time during the election (both nomination and election phase).
This is the first phase of the election, the nomination phase. This phase will close next week let's say on Friday 12:00 GMT (noon) which is (according to this site (http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=Closure&iso=20140411T12&p1=85)) is:
- 22:00 AEST
- 08:00 EDT
- 07:00 EST
- 06:00 CST
- 05:00 PDT
If all goes as planned, the voting will then start right after that, and end on Monday 12:00 GMT (noon).
Nominees are required to use the header:
I am hereby nominating myself as moderator of the RolePlay boards.
And put it as a post in this thread.
During the nomination phase
Any member can ask questions to any nominees in this thread itself. They can ask several questions, should they wish to, but make it clear with header (replace XXX with the nominee name, and if you are addressing several nominees in your post, put one under the other with the appropriate header):
To: XXX
It's even better if you also quote the post of the nominee so that anyone go back to see the current nomination with a click.
The above procedures are merely to make things easier to follow and make sure there's no confusion when it comes to who is asking/replying to whom.
During the election phase
Members and nominees will be allowed to vote on any one nominee. Each member (including nominees) will be given 2 votes (both votes cannot be used on the same nominee) and the poll results will be visible at all times during this phase. Should a nominee resign, any vote cast on said nominee can be recast on another nominee. The election phase will be closed and no more voting will be allowed past the deadline mentioned earlier.
Current nominees (will update periodically):
Humen (http://www.pokemon-universe.com/index.php/topic,5009.msg132148.html#msg132148)
foodonfloor (http://www.pokemon-universe.com/index.php/topic,5009.msg132150.html#msg132150)
The-Blades-slave (http://www.pokemon-universe.com/index.php?topic=5009.msg132163#msg132163)
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Are we allowed to nominate other people?
If so, I nominate blades, as he has a hand in just about every RP, and is generally good at defusing situations.
Or setting them off like an atom bomb.
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I am hereby nominating myself as moderator of the RolePlay boards.
Cause you know, Why not?
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I am hereby nominating myself as moderator of the RolePlay boards.
I put some thought into it, and decided to run. I began and am still sort of spearheading the RP section revival, and so I think that it makes sense for me to become a mod and help in overseeing that those changes are made, as well as help to continue to improve the section. I've been in enough RPs to know what is needed to succeed, and can provide valuable tips and help for both GMs and RPers alike. I've been writing for a rather long time now, since early elementary school, and would love to use my experience to help others who share that same passion, and in becoming a mod, I would be able to do so more effectively. Plus, now that my schedule's cleared up a bit, I'll be able to be around the site far more often than I have been in the past couple of months.
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If we're allowed to nominate other people, then I second Meowth's nomination. Blades seems to know his stuff about role-playing. As for defusing situations, I'm just going to take Meowth's word for it. I haven't really had much interaction with Blades.
I think foodonfloor would be capable of being a moderator also. I haven't talked to him all that much either, but he seems to know his way around an RP.
EDIT: I guess foodonfloor nominated himself. Still want to nominate Blades though. I want to see what happens.
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I third the nomination for Blades.
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I support the idea of nominating Blades, I saw him in almost every RP I enter or read, and he sure knows a lot of the RP guidelines, also, I got a question for the nominees.
To all nominees:
What will you do to regulate the battles between the characters? And how will you determine winners, draws if neither of the players want to lose?
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rejlev, that's up to the GM of the individual RP, not the mod to decide. The GM handles how events, battles, and other similar aspects of the RP are carried out.
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Well generally that's a GMs job, but I can answer anyways. There's two situations that happens.
Situation #1
Two characters, but they are from enemy factions. In that case the winner is determined between them, within certain guidelines. If one stated earlier he was traveling with a squadron and the other is alone, the one outnumbered will lose in most cases. If neither wishes to lose (which shouldn't happen often) you can interfere with the battle using an NPC soldier or something of the like.
Situation #2
It's a personal fight between characters in the same faction. In this case I would almost always interrupt it before the end because it is counter productive. There are certain circumstances that can change it (one of them is a traitor, they are away from anyone else, it is a gladiator fight or something of the sort, etc.), but that would be my most common answer.
Hope that makes sense. Moderators and GMs control only so much, this is something I usually leave to the RPers unless interfering with plot and I can't change it a bit to fit.
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Yeah I am also going to vote for Blades because I feel he knows what it takes to make a RP shine. (Not saying it always happens) he has had a few moments of quitage but I feel he'd be a great mod.
Plus, he has the best slit your wrists writitng ever. (In a good way)
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I nominate Blades =w=
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Are we allowed to nominate other people?
If so, I nominate blades, as he has a hand in just about every RP, and is generally good at defusing situations.
Or setting them off like an atom bomb.
Sorry, I guess I should have mentioned it, but I believe that the candidate has to make the first step. I don't want people to be voting on someone who doesn't want to become a moderator. You sure can then 'add on' to their introduction, in a way where you are strengthening their points (if any) or adding those that the nominee missed that you think is a strong point.
To Humen:
I am hereby nominating myself as moderator of the RolePlay boards.
Cause you know, Why not?
Sure can!
Just a little question:
What do you think is the best way to act if there's a newcomer who starts an RP without having apparently read the current rules? (i.e. No prior moderator approval and wrong formatting? Everything else seems okay, the plot seems borderline satisfactory.
To foodonfloor:
I am hereby nominating myself as moderator of the RolePlay boards.
I put some thought into it, and decided to run. I began and am still sort of spearheading the RP section revival, and so I think that it makes sense for me to become a mod and help in overseeing that those changes are made, as well as help to continue to improve the section. I've been in enough RPs to know what is needed to succeed, and can provide valuable tips and help for both GMs and RPers alike. I've been writing for a rather long time now, since early elementary school, and would love to use my experience to help others who share that same passion, and in becoming a mod, I would be able to do so more effectively. Plus, now that my schedule's cleared up a bit, I'll be able to be around the site far more often than I have been in the past couple of months.
Thanks! Your username was added to the list.
And a question for you too!
Becoming a moderator will grant you to some new tools; namely editing other people's posts, moving posts, sticking threads, locking threads and even deleting them. When do you think that deleting a thread is the right thing to do?
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I am hereby nominating myself as moderator of the RolePlay boards.
Edit: It took me a while to think of why I'm qualified. I'm a pretty level-headed person, and I have a lot of experience with RPs. For the past year I've participated in most of the roleplays (Sub-GMing and helping create a majority of them.) I like to think I handled most of those situations well, and a lot of the people from those RPs can vouch for me. I spend a lot of time on the site as well, so I guess that's a plus.
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To Humen:
Sure can!
Just a little question:
What do you think is the best way to act if there's a newcomer who starts an RP without having apparently read the current rules? (i.e. No prior moderator approval and wrong formatting? Everything else seems okay, the plot seems borderline satisfactory.
alright you put me on the spot here Jerr. Erm I guess if by formatting you mean that they havent added a clear OOCC/Profile section I guess I'd just take the backstory assuming there already been talk in that thread discussing charaters or whatever and change it to the OOCC and put the backstory of the RP in a new thread for hte story(and add a profile section for that person to fill out if need be). And just advice them that thats the proper format and to do that the next time they start an RP.
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alright you put me on the spot here Jerr. Erm I guess if by formatting you mean that they havent added a clear OOCC/Profile section I guess I'd just take the backstory assuming there already been talk in that thread discussing charaters or whatever and change it to the OOCC and put the backstory of the RP in a new thread for hte story(and add a profile section for that person to fill out if need be). And just advice them that thats the proper format and to do that the next time they start an RP.
Thank you for the reply :) There's nothing against, you, I'm just trying to prepare you for the job if you want to become moderator.
I think that the best course of action would be to first change the title of the RP to add the tag [Pending], then add a post, linking to the rules, and explaining what is wrong: for example, pointing out that the RP should have [Pending] in the title until moderator approval, pointing out that the RP should have 2 more sections: OOCC and Profiles, and that profiles should go to the latter section.
Then you let them make the two separate sections, because if you do, they won't be able to do any edits on that first post (remember that regular users can make edits on their own posts only), so while you meant good, it could leave the user a bit confused. :)
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Yep. the story line belongs to the gm, we moderators are available to edit a post into something completely different but that doesn't mean we should change stuff entirely. Especially for an RP, a writer has his/her personal touch. You don't just fill in the story just because you've read it somewhere in RP discussion. It's their personal story, and you shouldn't interfere in such a way. Just posting what must be improved in the story is enough.
Just think of something you have written, and suddenly someone completely changes your story just because it wasn't enough and didn't even give you a chance to revise and rework their story. Must be pretty harsh if you just do that.
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I see how it is, Jerry. Don't love me enough to give me a question. I'mma go cry in my corner of shame.
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I see how it is, Jerry. Don't love me enough to give me a question. I'mma go cry in my corner of shame.
Hey, you don't know how hard it is to come up with something different xD I'll find one for you, just you wait ;)
Well, I've been working on something actually, trying out on vector art, that's a sample:
(http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2014/096/3/0/fire_by_unknownoo8-d7db2h2.png)
I'm trying to keep it simple, with a little shinyness.
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Well since I'm impatient i'mma answer Fenror and Humen's questions based on my opinion.
What do you think is the best way to act if there's a newcomer who starts an RP without having apparently read the current rules? (i.e. No prior moderator approval and wrong formatting? Everything else seems okay, the plot seems borderline satisfactory.
I would have had him wait a while and repost it. I ran an RP when I first started, and it fit the criteria of what was described well; the plot was decent enough, but I had very little understanding of the rules, and ended up doing the RP in do to my inexperience. I think it would have been more beneficial to have participated in a few RPs before attempting to start my own, so that is what I would suggest others do. (This is probably completely wrong.)
Becoming a moderator will grant you to some new tools; namely editing other people's posts, moving posts, sticking threads, locking threads and even deleting them. When do you think that deleting a thread is the right thing to do?
I would only resort to deleting a thread at the most drastic situations; it is a thread with just an inappropriate (happened last year, was a picture of an old mans ass posted by a brand new account), or something like that. Otherwise I'd lock it if a flame war was going on or something of the like,. from what I've seen from the site we keep old threads so people can search for them, so the same topic isn't posted twice.
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And a question for you too!
Becoming a moderator will grant you to some new tools; namely editing other people's posts, moving posts, sticking threads, locking threads and even deleting them. When do you think that deleting a thread is the right thing to do?
I think that deleting a thread altogether isn't always the right thing to do, as RP's will close on their own once they become inactive, or they will be locked by a mod. I personally find it beneficial to go and be able to look through previous RPs that I've participated in, as well as look at characters that I've used in the past. At the same time, there are some threads that should be deleted. Generally speaking, deleting an RP thread should be done when the creation of that thread doesn't follow the rules are isn't up to the standard demanded by the section. This of course isn't the first step, though, as before deleting, or even locking, topic, the mod should discuss the issues with the RP with the GM in an attempt to fix them and create an adequate product. We don't like to see RP's fail, and before deleting a thread that does not follow the rules or is not up to standard, we should first try to fix the issues, and then proceed to delete the thread if the GM does not comply.
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Oi! Blades stole my question! Jerry I demand another Question!
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Hey, I'm not the only one who can ask questions you know :P Anyone can ask anyone!
To Blades-of-slave:
During the course of an RP, two people get into a dispute. One is claiming the other godmodded them and the other is denying it, saying that the first one has been doing much more than that and nothing was raised against them at that time. The GM of the RP steps in, but doesn't succeed in settling things down. At the same time, both of the two RPers PM you about the other being unfair. What do you do?
Well since I'm impatient i'mma answer Fenror and Humen's questions based on my opinion.
I would have had him wait a while and repost it. I ran an RP when I first started, and it fit the criteria of what was described well; the plot was decent enough, but I had very little understanding of the rules, and ended up doing the RP in do to my inexperience. I think it would have been more beneficial to have participated in a few RPs before attempting to start my own, so that is what I would suggest others do. (This is probably completely wrong.)
I would only resort to deleting a thread at the most drastic situations; it is a thread with just an inappropriate (happened last year, was a picture of an old mans ass posted by a brand new account), or something like that. Otherwise I'd lock it if a flame war was going on or something of the like,. from what I've seen from the site we keep old threads so people can search for them, so the same topic isn't posted twice.
Of course, having some experience in an RP helps in hosting one, so that's another thing you could do all right.
For the second one, yup, it's true that we keep deletions for drastic situations. Locking is, most of the time, enough. There's no problem with posting the same topic twice though. Something that didn't work in the past could work now, or sometime in the future, because different people (or people who learned from their mistakes) will run it differently.
I think that deleting a thread altogether isn't always the right thing to do, as RP's will close on their own once they become inactive, or they will be locked by a mod. I personally find it beneficial to go and be able to look through previous RPs that I've participated in, as well as look at characters that I've used in the past. At the same time, there are some threads that should be deleted. Generally speaking, deleting an RP thread should be done when the creation of that thread doesn't follow the rules are isn't up to the standard demanded by the section. This of course isn't the first step, though, as before deleting, or even locking, topic, the mod should discuss the issues with the RP with the GM in an attempt to fix them and create an adequate product. We don't like to see RP's fail, and before deleting a thread that does not follow the rules or is not up to standard, we should first try to fix the issues, and then proceed to delete the thread if the GM does not comply.
I tend to agree. Like I mentioned above, locking is enough for most cases. If OP's looking for attention (which is often the case for newcomers , and pretty logical since they want people to join their RP), locking after several failed attempts to make them understand how things work here won't get them very far. Worst case scenario, they'll start more similar threads (where now it's appropriate to delete those because really, it's a duplicate of the previous one(s)), get warnings, try to PM everyone to get attention and get banned.
To Humen:
Oi! Blades stole my question! Jerry I demand another Question!
Well, how can I say no now?
There's a newbie (again!?) who started an RP, but this time, they appear to have appropriately read the rules and the way things are here. They have put the [Pending] tag in their RP title, they have a OOCC thread and a Profiles thread. What are you expected to do now?
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Jerry its like your trying to give me all the hard questions. I want to say i give him 1 week to start his RP or i lock it but i think ill go with "approve the RP". That's my final answer Jer
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Yo, Jerry, are some of us allowed to say our comments on the answers someone gave, or not? I meant to ask this like, two days ago.
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Yo, Jerry, are some of us allowed to say our comments on the answers someone gave, or not? I meant to ask this like, two days ago.
Sure can, nothing's stopping you. This phase is where everyone can discuss about the candicates :)
Jerry its like your trying to give me all the hard questions. I want to say i give him 1 week to start his RP or i lock it but i think ill go with "approve the RP". That's my final answer Jer
Lol, well, you asked for another one and questions are hard to come by xD. Plus I guess I wouldn't call that a hard question.
But, I wouldn't say that pressuring someone to start an RP is a good thing (because after all, they cannot start without RPers, right?), and approving too soon shouldn't be it either. Remember that while the format can be okay, the content of the RP might not be. You will have to read and then decide whether this RP is suitable or not. If it's not, leave a post telling what's wrong. If everything seems fine, then I'd say you can approve the RP.
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To Blades-of-slave:
During the course of an RP, two people get into a dispute. One is claiming the other godmodded them and the other is denying it, saying that the first one has been doing much more than that and nothing was raised against them at that time. The GM of the RP steps in, but doesn't succeed in settling things down. At the same time, both of the two RPers PM you about the other being unfair. What do you do?
It is a roleplay, so everything is documented. It is easy enough to scroll through the posts to see if one godmodded the other. If so, he should be given a warning and have godmodding explained to him in detail, so he knows what he is guilty of. I would also go back and check to see if the other is guilty of what he is excused of. If he is he would be warned and have what he did wrong explained to him as well. On top of that, I'd message the GM of the RP. It should be his job to uphold the rules in the first place, and it that whole situation most likely could have been avoided if he had caught the first offender.
How is my answer, critics of the world?
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Jerry its like your trying to give me all the hard questions. I want to say i give him 1 week to start his RP or i lock it but i think ill go with "approve the RP". That's my final answer Jer
Okay
Humen?
D___ move. Most RP's can't be started within one week, as it takes times to get Profiles up, answer questions, hell, it takes time for people to see it. If the RP meets all the requirements, has a steady plot, and looks good? That should be proof enough that he can handle it. It's just flat out a jerk move to give him a timelimit simply because he's new, or you haven't seen much from him.
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This one is for Humen:
Alright, so let's say there is an RP currently running. The GM has set specific standards for the profiles. The GM requests that everybody must provide a detailed written description of their character's appearance (pictures are not allowed). He/She has asked that those who wish to join the RP send their profile in a PM for approval. The GM wishes to post the accepted profile in a designated profile thread, where only they are allowed to post, so that they can keep things organized. Let's say that a new forum member posts a profile in the profiles thread, and that this profile does not meet the standards the GM has set(There is no written description of the character.). The new member then immediately posts in the IC thread. What do you do?
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So apparently i haven't talked with Joe long enough for him to realize when i'm in Sarcasm mode
Oh Dear it appears even Jerry couldn't tell i was joking XD
I've seen the process of making an RP enough times to know u don't force a person into starting RP and with the scenario Jerry gave its pretty obvious the RP was just awaiting approval from the Mod.
@Toast:
TBH that sounds more like a issue with the GM and that new member. Now if the GM needs me to delete the two post made by that person sure im up for that but the GM should be the one to (i'd assume) warn the guy of what he's done and to remake his profile.
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It is a roleplay, so everything is documented. It is easy enough to scroll through the posts to see if one godmodded the other. If so, he should be given a warning and have godmodding explained to him in detail, so he knows what he is guilty of. I would also go back and check to see if the other is guilty of what he is excused of. If he is he would be warned and have what he did wrong explained to him as well. On top of that, I'd message the GM of the RP. It should be his job to uphold the rules in the first place, and it that whole situation most likely could have been avoided if he had caught the first offender.
How is my answer, critics of the world?
For the most part, I'd say it's totally reasonable, and usually the way that things would go without much fuss. But if you want to be really critical on that, then...
It is indeed the job of the GM to keep an eye on those things, but you also need to check the rules within the particular RP before looking anywhere else. For instance, it's fine if a GM decides that a certain level of godmodding is allowed in a particular RP. The global rules are there by default (i.e. applies if an RP doesn't have its specific rules), but if a GM decides that an RP will be better by giving some more leeway, then you need to check that out first.
In such a situation, it becomes much more complicated to see who to point the finger to. Sure, the GM is responsible; it's his RP yada yada, and will likely try to say that there's nothing wrong, the rules allowed for that amount of godmodding since he wouldn't want his RP to stop because of one person. Now of course, it will likely be a different thing in a real situation too, since most of the time, you will either see the rules on the first post, or someone will point it out sooner or later, but if it happens later (I don't think something like that will happen, but just to elaborate a bit on that), then you could have given a warning too soon.
So apparently i haven't talked with Joe long enough for him to realize when i'm in Sarcasm mode
Oh Dear it appears even Jerry couldn't tell i was joking XD
Well, joke or not, I don't usually give obvious questions, and while you've got the gist of it (I'm sure most people would), you didn't get the whole picture :P There are few moderators, but many members. There should be at least a little something that differentiates the two after all, otherwise, everyone would be moderator and chaos would ensue.
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wait does that mean we've already got the same access as a mod?
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Huh? What sentence made you think so?
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when you said the part about everyone being a mod
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There's the word 'would' which means no one currently is.
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I've been kind of quiet on here, and I apologize for that, but does anyone have any questions for me?
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I vote fro Blades, for he is in my opinion the most experienced RPer here. He's also practically a moderator already as he helps with a good portion of the RP's on here.
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Voted. I was kinda surprised that we didn't have any new members with only one post nominate themselves, I thought we'd have at least one.
Also, asldkgja the voting ends on my birthday. You planned it that way Jerry. Don't lie, because I know you did.
EDIT: I just noticed that you have to have at least 50 posts to nominate yourself. I guess that explains it.
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No, I totally didn't.
Also, yes, the limit might explain it. I wouldn't want someone not familiar with the RPs here to be nominated, and it's likely that they won't get any votes, so save them the trouble and save us the trouble of trying to bring them up to speed with how things run here. If a newbie really wanted to nominate themselves they'd probably ask if it's okay if they nominate themselves despite having a number of post below the threshold and trying to explain why they would be suited for the task.
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Okay, so the one who will become moderator of the RP board of the three candidates will be The-Blades-Slave!
Congratulations! :)
With that, I've updated the RP board rules with the suggestion and input of some of our members here :)
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Pfffffft XD how did i end up tied with fenror
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congrats Blades c:
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Congo - rats, Blades.
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MY NAME IS BLUE. LIFE IS GOOD.
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Slightly lighter blue that is.
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Congrats, Blades, on becoming the newest meat for the GM's to feed on.