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Title: Battle: King of the Stadium
Post by: Noah_Road on December 14, 2011, 03:01:07 AM
Okay so I wanna play a little game. Since we don't have a set ladder on the testing server, lets make a makeshift ladder.

 Here's how the game will work; for now I will select a five members of our community to become the "Royal 5" based on my own perception of skill (I'm including myself in this to start the game, not because of ego xD). Each memeber will be given 10 "points" to start off with. For each week, players can challenge any of the "Royal 5" in a 3-round battle. Defeating a Royal will earn you 2 points while the Royal in question will lose 2 points. Losing to the Royal will earn the Royal 1 point.

At the end of the week the points will be collected and tallied and a new set of Royals will be ellected.

Rules:
-Sleep, Freeze, and Species Clause must be on durring challenges.
-Battles must be 3 rounds.
-Please report any and all Royal challanges here so we can keep track of points.
-You do not need to keep logs of the battles, but it would be helpful if there is a dispute on a battle.
-Please be honest about battles to keep this fun.



Royal rules:
-At the beginning of each week, all Royals' points will be reset to 10.
-Every week (starting next game), the top Royal will be named "King" and will be allowed to set a goal line for that week.
-Royals can keep their position if they can surpass a certain number of points, or the "goal line" before the final day of the week.
-Royals who do not meet the goal line will be demoted and replaced with challengers in order of point totals.
-The goal line is not allowed to be lower than 15. This means that on any given week, a Royal must gain at least 5 points to be eligable for staying in the Royal 5.
-If a Royal is unable to stay active or does not want the position for the week they have been assigned, please PM me or post here so we can get a back up ready.


First Week Royals
*Noah_Road (King)-11
*Bing-12
*Cortex J.-14
*Shadowfred-10
*The_Fox-12
First Week Goal Line: 17 Points


Because I probably either explained something vaugely or missed something, please post any questions. Happy battling :)
Title: Re: Battle: King of the Stadium
Post by: Tickles on December 14, 2011, 04:04:07 AM
Cool, so it looks like I'm going to have to keep my spot.
Title: Re: Battle: King of the Stadium
Post by: Viper on December 14, 2011, 04:12:01 AM
The problem with this, as Silver pointed out on IRC, is those that arent Royals can never lose points. And you say you only reset Royals points. So therefore, eventually everyone will be a Royal because they cant lose points because im sure they will win sometimes, and i dont think thats what you were aiming for is it?
Title: Re: Battle: King of the Stadium
Post by: Tickles on December 14, 2011, 04:14:58 AM
I think in order to gain points, you need to win against the royal, not a challenger.
Title: Re: Battle: King of the Stadium
Post by: SweetRaichu on December 14, 2011, 05:13:12 AM
im in this. this should be fun. But how about the queens
Title: Re: Battle: King of the Stadium
Post by: Shadowfred on December 14, 2011, 05:16:01 AM
It says royals, Kings, Queens, Prince, Princesses, whatever.
Title: Re: Battle: King of the Stadium
Post by: Bing on December 14, 2011, 07:06:52 AM
There needs to be a rule about the number of challenges.  I'm really gonna get sick of constant challenges from certain people.  This is a cool concept, and I like it.  But, without a rule for that, it's gonna be annoying.

Oh, and you should know who I'm talking about.  If not, don't worry.  You'll prolly get a rage filled message of why they are not a starting royal.
Title: Re: Battle: King of the Stadium
Post by: Tickles on December 14, 2011, 08:58:43 AM
How about Royals can't challenge someone to gain points, they must be challenged, but if no challengers come, they can request it.
Title: Re: Battle: King of the Stadium
Post by: genbor on December 14, 2011, 09:08:12 AM
 
Quote from: Bing on December 14, 2011, 07:06:52 AM
There needs to be a rule about the number of challenges.  I'm really gonna get sick of constant challenges from certain people.  This is a cool concept, and I like it.  But, without a rule for that, it's gonna be annoying.

Oh, and you should know who I'm talking about.  If not, don't worry.  You'll prolly get a rage filled message of why they are not a starting royal.

 Haha true true. Anyways this should prove pretty fun. Might even check on the Testing Server once my exams are over. But like Silver and Viper have pointed it out, the if the Challengers don't lose points, eventually they can become a Royal just by slowly battling their way to the top. So I think add Bing's idea of a "Certain Number of Challenges" and add a "Point Deduction" for losing to a Royal.

 Well I had this idea:
 
 - It doesn't have to be a limit on challenges, but maybe a there should be time intervals between the challenges. So, instead of prohibiting a Challenger to ask for battle with a Royal 3 times a day, it could be that once you battles a Royal, you can't battle that given Royal for (x number of minutes)

 - Also how about making a new thread (you could use this one too, but it might get messy) about making appointments. It would basically mean that a day will be set (For now let's say Sunday) and on that day people have the chance to sign up to battle the Royals. Each person can only sign up once, and at the end of the day (still Sunday) the Sign-ups will be closed. It would determine the priority of who to battle. So lets say at the end of the day the Sign-ups looked like these:  1. Viper
                            2. Silver
                            3. Genbor
                            4. Maestro
                            5. Fox

  The battles would go as follows: Viper can challenge any of the Royals he wants. Then Silver can challenge any of the Royals except the one Viper is battling for obvious reasons. Then I can chose to battle whoever I want and it goes down the list like that. Once at the list has been completed, go from the top again and keep this order. It could make it so that challenges from one person don't get spammed, and it could create an order of how to battle. So you check who is before you on the list, and wait patiently for until he starts battling and then can choose who to battle next.
 
 Of course this only works with my assumption that more than one Royal is online at any one time, otherwise the poor Royal might have to go through the list of challengers all by himself. Also the list would only work when people are online. For example:

 Viper is not online but Silver is. So Silver would be the first one naturally. If Viper gets online and Silver is already battling, he cannot be the one after Silver since his turn has been skipped. So he has to wait for the list to be completed and for it to start over again. Same works for everyone.

  Also, you can't hold back the List by saying you will wait for the certain Royal so that you can battle. If a Royal is available you must battle him or be skipped when it is your turn. You want to keep things moving (just like you wouldn't want to cause Traffic by parking your car in the middle of the street until a certain someone comes back). If all 5 Royals are battling, wait for a Royal who becomes available again and battle him.

 I made it so that the Sign-ups were only one day long is because if the Sign-ups keep continuing, it might become hard to track and edit the List all the time. So Sunday's Sign-ups have been completed and closed down by Noah (Could only be a post saying: Sign-ups closed for <date here>). Once next Sunday (or whichever day you want to pick for it) comes, new sign-ups start (same here Noah makes a message for Sign-ups Start <date here>) and a new List would be made for the order of Challenges.

 - Moving on to the next issue: I think the Point Deduction system for the Challengers should be similar to how the Royals' system works. But instead of 2 points, just lose 1 point (just like the Royals only gain 1 point from beating a Challenger) this way there is a loss for the Challenger if he loses, but the risk is still high for the Royal since he loses 2 points.

 Now I wasn't sure if I interpreted it correctly but anyone can be eligible to become a Royal if they meet the same point requirements as a Royal has to for keeping his position, but if there are more people who have reached the goal-line, not necessarily Royals, then I say that the Royals should be elected with the point ranking. So let's say there are many Challengers who have reached the goal line of 17 (or whatever it is that week) but all the original Royals had above 18, then it goes without saying that they remain that way. But If a Royal has reached the goal and a Challenger has more points than him, he should be made Royal instead of him. (You might have meant this, but for me it wasn't too clear sorry)

 While it might be harsh on the Royals, it encourages them to do their best, and it would allow the Royals to be selected from the best battlers.

 Well I end my little rant here. God it was good to finally write something longer than one sentence on a thread. Thanks for a great idea. :)
                                                                                      Cheers, Genbor
Title: Re: Battle: King of the Stadium
Post by: Tickles on December 14, 2011, 09:25:03 AM
I think I will expand on my ideas as well.

With the challenging aspect, instead of how Genbor describes, for flexibility, the royals can't challenge anyone to a Royal match (Yes, that can be the term for it.) They have to be challenged to it. If no one challenges to a Royal match, the royal can state that they are open to challengers for a royal match. The royal cannot do more than 3 matches a day so they don't overflow their points. This will mean that they can battle for 2 days to get the minimum, or do 3 a day to get as many as they can. On the final day, royals can take as many matches as they please, that is the day before the points reset.

On the challengers, they can only earn points by battling Royals, they can't do so any other way. This gives them an incentive to battle royals, so the first system doesn't fail. With 5 royals each doing 3 a day, that can total up to 30 points a day a challenger can possibly gain. But, if the challenger loses, they should be able to lose points as well, as Genbor suggested, 1 point. This way they must also take into account the chance of losing points.

For a penalty of getting 0 points, if a royals loses all their points, they should automatically lose the position, and can no longer participate in royal matches until the next week as a challenger.

Royals shouldn't battle the same person in a day, this way they don't gain points by beating the same person over and over again. The last day won't count on this, as it is open matches.

That is all, this is what I'm suggesting, and give Genbor and Bing credit for some of the ideas in here. In fact, they get most of it, I just organized it.

Title: Re: Battle: King of the Stadium
Post by: genbor on December 14, 2011, 09:51:47 AM
 Well yes I don't know if anyone ever said Royals can challenge, but I also think they shouldn't be able to. I believe Cortex meant that 3 Matches would be 3 Challenges, since 1 Challenge is 3 Matches ( or rounds).  I don't really like the 3 Challenges per day for each Royal though, since they are Royals, they are obviously not going to go down easy, so one match against a Royal would probably not be enough, and with only 5 Royals, people would get left out easily from being able to do Royal Challenges.

 So maybe instead of 3 Challenges per Royal each day, how about we make it to 1 Challenge from each Challenger to a Royal. It would give a Challenger 5 Challenges, which can be used as 1 Challenge for each Royal per day.

 I still think a Appointments or Sign-ups thread should be made for a purpose of organizing an order to the Challenges. We wouldn't want a Royal to get online and suddenly get spammed with Challenges. People would have to wait for their turn to challenge a Royal.

ShedinjaEDIT: I don't know how many people are usually on the Balance Server, so if the number is around 15 or less, then Cortex's 3 Challenges per Royal each day could work too. So nobody would be left out if a Challenger only has 1 Challenge per day except for the final day.
Title: Re: Battle: King of the Stadium
Post by: Mr. Fox on December 14, 2011, 02:42:33 PM
looks fun, kinda disappointed I am not a royal, but this weeks are some of the best around. Here's to a fun week! ;D
Title: Re: Battle: King of the Stadium
Post by: Bing on December 14, 2011, 06:15:10 PM
I think the royals should be able to challenge any challenger with a higher point total. Otherwise if a challenger gets a higher point total than a royal, the royal is basically stuck.  If nobody challenges them they can't even try to defend their title.
Title: Re: Battle: King of the Stadium
Post by: genbor on December 14, 2011, 07:02:54 PM
Quote from: Bing on December 14, 2011, 06:15:10 PM
I think the royals should be able to challenge any challenger with a higher point total. Otherwise if a challenger gets a higher point total than a royal, the royal is basically stuck.  If nobody challenges them they can't even try to defend their title.

 Sure that could work.
Title: Re: Battle: King of the Stadium
Post by: Tickles on December 14, 2011, 08:36:54 PM
Just wanted to point out, in case we already started.

Win against Meowth- 2W/1L

Win against Ponge- 2W/1L

2 points earned.
Title: Re: Battle: King of the Stadium
Post by: Roloc on December 14, 2011, 09:27:34 PM
I would like to give up my position for three reasons.
I just don't see myself on the public balance server enough to be able to accept challenges.

Beta will hopefully be out sometime this month.
My birthday is the 16th.
The private testing server will also hopefully be up sometime soon.
Title: Re: Battle: King of the Stadium
Post by: Noah_Road on December 14, 2011, 09:33:53 PM
Thank you Genbor and Cotex for pointing out some crucial holes. I would like to fill these holes now: Royals can refuse a challenge if they are too busy. I turst the Royals won't abuse this and refuse every challenge to keep their points. Actions will be taken by the King if a Royal outright refuses a majority of his/her battles.

I didn't make this clear before but everyone, not just the Royals, will have their points reset by the end of the week. The Royals will be reset to 10 while the players will be reset to 2.

Royals cannot challenge players. Only payers can challenge Royals. Players can Royals will only gain/lose points in a Royal challenge; no points will be awarded for player vs player battles. The reason I am not putting a penalty for players losing to Royals this week is because I'm testing to see how this game would go. If this game kicks off and their is a game next week, players will lose a point for losing Royal Challenges.

If a player has gained more points than a Royal, he or she will replace the Royal in question.

Thats fine Roloc. I didn't know the beta and private server was this close to being released. I'll find a replacement.

EDIT: Roloc has been replaced by Fox.
Beat Deadae: 1L/2W-1 point earned
Title: Re: Battle: King of the Stadium
Post by: SweetRaichu on December 14, 2011, 09:54:51 PM
There going be a queen in there and that going be me.
Title: Re: Battle: King of the Stadium
Post by: Tickles on December 14, 2011, 09:55:32 PM
To do that, you need to battle royals.


Edit

Sweetraichu- 2W/1W\

Points now at 13.
Title: Re: Battle: King of the Stadium
Post by: Mr. Fox on December 14, 2011, 10:42:02 PM
Quote from: Noah_Road on December 14, 2011, 09:33:53 PM
EDIT: Roloc has been replaced by Fox.
Ok, I will get on and await challenges.
Title: Re: Battle: King of the Stadium
Post by: Miserybiz on December 14, 2011, 10:46:42 PM
If any one is going to be queen it sshall be me. NAY! I shall be the Empress. I rule by the divine right of my Dragonite.
Title: Re: Battle: King of the Stadium
Post by: Mr. Fox on December 15, 2011, 12:28:01 AM
Ok, just going to post my current wins.

SweetRaichu:2-0
Miserybiz:2-1
+2 points
Current Points: 12
Title: Re: Battle: King of the Stadium
Post by: Viper on December 15, 2011, 02:37:51 AM
Quote from: The Fox on December 15, 2011, 12:28:01 AM
Ok, just going to post my current wins.

SweetRaichu:2-0
Miserybiz:2-1
+2 points
Current Points: 12

You do know that you only get points when you beat royals right? Not normal players. Noah explicitly said that twice.
Title: Re: Battle: King of the Stadium
Post by: Roloc on December 15, 2011, 02:43:33 AM
Quote from: Viper on December 15, 2011, 02:37:51 AM
Quote from: The Fox on December 15, 2011, 12:28:01 AM
Ok, just going to post my current wins.

SweetRaichu:2-0
Miserybiz:2-1
+2 points
Current Points: 12

You do know that you only get points when you beat royals right? Not normal players. Noah explicitly said that twice.
Fox is a royal.
I dropped out for the reasons I listed above.
Title: Re: Battle: King of the Stadium
Post by: Viper on December 15, 2011, 02:52:37 AM
Ah I didn't see that. Well carry on then :P
Title: Re: Battle: King of the Stadium
Post by: Tickles on December 15, 2011, 05:29:26 AM
Sweetraichu- 2W/0L

Points at 14
Title: Re: Battle: King of the Stadium
Post by: SweetRaichu on December 15, 2011, 05:42:43 PM
I will beat the royal and be the only Queen among 4 kings. *meow*
Title: Re: Battle: King of the Stadium
Post by: Tickles on December 15, 2011, 10:06:22 PM
Miss_Wednesday- 2W/1L

Current points- 15

Minimum achieved.
Title: Re: Battle: King of the Stadium
Post by: Roloc on December 15, 2011, 10:22:45 PM
Quote from: Cortex J. on December 15, 2011, 10:06:22 PM
Miss_Wednesday- 2W/1L

Current points- 15

Minimum achieved.
Actually the minimum this week is 17.

On another note: It looks like cortex is the only one really doing the royal battles.
Title: Re: Battle: King of the Stadium
Post by: Tickles on December 15, 2011, 11:35:26 PM
Actually, Royals must earn 5 points to keep their spot, the goal to get is 17 to determine the new king/queen of royals.
Title: Re: Battle: King of the Stadium
Post by: Mr. Fox on December 15, 2011, 11:42:31 PM
SweetRaichu:2-0
Deadea:2-0
+2 points
Total Points: 14

Edit: Roloc:2-0
+1 Point
Total Points: 15
Title: Re: Battle: King of the Stadium
Post by: Roloc on December 16, 2011, 12:11:53 AM
Quote from: Cortex J. on December 15, 2011, 11:35:26 PM
Actually, Royals must earn 5 points to keep their spot, the goal to get is 17 to determine the new king/queen of royals.

I see no where on the first post that it says you need 15 points to keep your spot. the only thing I see about 15 is that the king can't make the goal lower then 15 for any given week.

Quote
-Royals can keep their position if they can surpass a certain number of points, or the "goal line" before the final day of the week.
From this I'd say that 17 IS the minimum.

And I would like a clarification from Noah. Is it who ever passes the set goal first is crowned king or whoever has the most points at the end of the week. Cause some people may not be on as much as others.

Title: Re: Battle: King of the Stadium
Post by: genbor on December 16, 2011, 12:14:07 AM
Quote from: Roloc on December 16, 2011, 12:11:53 AM
Quote
-Royals can keep their position if they can surpass a certain number of points, or the "goal line" before the final day of the week.
From this I'd say that 17 IS the minimum.

Indeed, unless it's been changed, I would say that is correct.
Title: Re: Battle: King of the Stadium
Post by: Tickles on December 16, 2011, 12:14:25 AM
Royals must get 5 points to keep spot

Whoever has the most points is crowned king

The goal is to make you battle more
Title: Re: Battle: King of the Stadium
Post by: genbor on December 16, 2011, 12:19:19 AM
Quote from: Noah_Road on December 14, 2011, 03:01:07 AM
Royals who do not meet the goal line will be demoted and replaced with challengers in order of point totals.

First Week Goal Line: 17 Points


From that I would say that you must have at least 17 points before the final day for you to keep your position for certain. If you can't gather enough points before the final day then you will have to gather the points on the final day, but you risk losing your spot to a Challenger.

That's what I would interpret anyways. Maybe Noah can confirm which is the acting rule.
Title: Re: Battle: King of the Stadium
Post by: Tickles on December 16, 2011, 12:21:08 AM
Sweetraichu- 2W/0L

Current points 16
Title: Re: Battle: King of the Stadium
Post by: Roloc on December 16, 2011, 12:22:20 AM
Indeed. Noahs ruling would be helpful XD
Title: Re: Battle: King of the Stadium
Post by: Shadowfred on December 16, 2011, 12:29:55 AM
Who need Noah when you've got me?

Quote
-Royals can keep their position if they can surpass a certain number of points, or the "goal line" before the final day of the week.
-Royals who do not meet the goal line will be demoted and replaced with challengers in order of point totals.
-The goal line is not allowed to be lower than 15. This means that on any given week, a Royal must gain at least 5 points to be eligable for staying in the Royal 5.

15 is the lowest the line can go, but you need to pass the line to stay as a royal. The line is currently 17.
Title: Re: Battle: King of the Stadium
Post by: Tickles on December 16, 2011, 12:46:25 AM
Meowth- 2W/0L

Total at 17, Goal Acheived.
Title: Re: Battle: King of the Stadium
Post by: Roloc on December 16, 2011, 12:50:55 AM
Quote from: Shadowfred on December 16, 2011, 12:29:55 AM
Who need Noah when you've got me?

Quote
-Royals can keep their position if they can surpass a certain number of points, or the "goal line" before the final day of the week.
-Royals who do not meet the goal line will be demoted and replaced with challengers in order of point totals.
-The goal line is not allowed to be lower than 15. This means that on any given week, a Royal must gain at least 5 points to be eligable for staying in the Royal 5.

15 is the lowest the line can go, but you need to pass the line to stay as a royal. The line is currently 17.

*bows to Shadowfred and chants "We are not worthy"*
Title: Re: Battle: King of the Stadium
Post by: Mr. Fox on December 16, 2011, 05:40:32 AM
RocksEvo:2-1(due to a time out)
+1Point
Total Points: 16
Title: Re: Battle: King of the Stadium
Post by: Bing on December 16, 2011, 06:56:03 AM
I don't like how I can't challenge.

No one has challenged me...
Title: Re: Battle: King of the Stadium
Post by: Tickles on December 16, 2011, 06:57:42 AM
Just ask Bing, there are those that are willing.
Title: Re: Battle: King of the Stadium
Post by: Bing on December 16, 2011, 07:00:28 AM
Idk, it's just a pain that I can't challenge anyone.  Cause I sat on the server for a hour earlier and no challenger even tried.  I'm not saying that I'm so unbeatable, I'm just saying it's annoying.  If they get enough points then then can just hide and not challenge.  We should be able to challenge those who have more points than us.
Title: Re: Battle: King of the Stadium
Post by: genbor on December 16, 2011, 09:50:42 AM
 Indeed some rule needs to be made so that Royals don't start sitting without a Royal Challenge. And we can't really enforce people to Challenge a Royal just because the Royal said "I'm ready".
Title: Re: Battle: King of the Stadium
Post by: Shadowfred on December 16, 2011, 09:52:17 AM
Yeah, I haven't had any challenges. I guess everyone knows they don't stand a chance.
Title: Re: Battle: King of the Stadium
Post by: genbor on December 16, 2011, 09:58:54 AM
Quote from: Shadowfred on December 16, 2011, 09:52:17 AM
Yeah, I haven't had any challenges. I guess everyone knows they don't stand a chance.

Indeed, they sit a chance.
Title: Re: Battle: King of the Stadium
Post by: reoen on December 16, 2011, 07:39:31 PM
You guys this seems kool! I have to make a team first though. Pprobably best if i don't participate tho (not untill i have a feel of my team.)
Title: Re: Battle: King of the Stadium
Post by: zorocario on December 16, 2011, 08:10:28 PM
ShadowFred i will take your spot and gain points to become the first Emporoer with 4 kings
Title: Re: Battle: King of the Stadium
Post by: genbor on December 16, 2011, 08:14:56 PM
Quote from: zorocario on December 16, 2011, 08:10:28 PM
ShadowFred i will take your spot and gain points to become the first queen with 4 kings

 Aren't you supposed to be a guy?
Title: Re: Battle: King of the Stadium
Post by: zorocario on December 16, 2011, 08:16:10 PM
my little sister got hold of the keyboard.
Title: Re: Battle: King of the Stadium
Post by: SweetRaichu on December 16, 2011, 08:17:24 PM
ShadowFred i will take your spot and gain points to become the first queen with 4 kings
Title: Re: Battle: King of the Stadium
Post by: reoen on December 16, 2011, 08:23:49 PM
lol...echo
Title: Re: Battle: King of the Stadium
Post by: SweetRaichu on December 16, 2011, 08:51:38 PM
Then, i going to be the best with my Bird team and take the sky.
Title: Re: Battle: King of the Stadium
Post by: Mr. Fox on December 16, 2011, 11:46:42 PM
RockEvo: 1-2
-1 point
Total Points: 15

Critsol my ass...
Title: Re: Battle: King of the Stadium
Post by: Shadowfred on December 18, 2011, 01:08:51 AM
Woo! First challenge!

vs Zorocario
- 2-0
- +1 Point
- 11 Points

EDIT:

Woo! Second challenge!
vs Zorocario
- 2-1
- +1 Point
- 12 Points
Title: Re: Battle: King of the Stadium
Post by: Bing on December 21, 2011, 06:29:21 AM
I think I'm gonna just drop out of this.  I don't really care for who is the best and so on.  Also I'm spending most of my time testing.

So rule me out.
Title: Re: Battle: King of the Stadium
Post by: zorocario on December 21, 2011, 05:28:19 PM
Can i take Bing Place. I a good battler. 8)
Title: Re: Battle: King of the Stadium
Post by: Tickles on December 21, 2011, 07:17:47 PM
I think we should wait to do this until everyone has established themselves in the game. It's one thing to use fully evolved, fine tuned pokemon. It's another to raise it from a low level to a high level.