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Author Topic: Which came first: The Pokemon, or the Egg?  (Read 17383 times)

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Which came first: The Pokemon, or the Egg?
« on: August 08, 2011, 02:02:46 AM »
The philosophical question now revised for pokemon. Don't think of it in terms of the game, use your imagination. I believe it started with the egg that held Arceus, and then came everything else.
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Re: Which came first: The Pokemon, or the Egg?
« Reply #1 on: August 08, 2011, 02:35:32 AM »
The Pokemon: simply because of two things.

1) No warmth, No hatching, and Eggs cant create anything O.o

2) Where would the egg have come from?
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Re: Which came first: The Pokemon, or the Egg?
« Reply #2 on: August 08, 2011, 02:51:18 AM »
seeing as it's Pokemon, a cartoon, i don't think logic has to take place so i believe the egg came first for your same reason.
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Re: Which came first: The Pokemon, or the Egg?
« Reply #3 on: August 08, 2011, 03:16:44 AM »
If the creator of everything always existed, it couldn't have hatched from an egg because it already existed. If it hatched from an egg, then something else must have created it.

There's a problem with that statement though.

How could the creator have always existed if it didn't have a point in time that it came into existence? If it hatched from an egg, then how did the egg come into existence in the first place if it's the creator. If it was an egg, something had to have created the egg. But if it didn't hatch from an egg, it already existed, but there's no way to explain how it would be possible for something to exist without coming into existence first.

This can also be applied to religion and the belief that space already existed.

There's no way to really explain it, it's beyond human comprehension, so even if we found proof, we would still never be able to truly understand it.

So there really isn't a correct answer, because no one knows, and no one probably ever will know.

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Re: Which came first: The Pokemon, or the Egg?
« Reply #4 on: August 08, 2011, 03:29:14 AM »
If the creator of everything always existed, it couldn't have hatched from an egg because it already existed. If it hatched from an egg, then something else must have created it.

There's a problem with that statement though.

How could the creator have always existed if it didn't have a point in time that it came into existence? If it hatched from an egg, then how did the egg come into existence in the first place if it's the creator. If it was an egg, something had to have created the egg. But if it didn't hatch from an egg, it already existed, but there's no way to explain how it would be possible for something to exist without coming into existence first.

This can also be applied to religion and the belief that space already existed.

There's no way to really explain it, it's beyond human comprehension, so even if we found proof, we would still never be able to truly understand it.

So there really isn't a correct answer, because no one knows, and no one probably ever will know.

There actually is an answer, the creators of Pokemon know, like i said logic doesn't have to take place in a cartoon but in real life no one would know because whether the egg or the chicken came first is irrelevant because both of them are an object. The question is how was the first object made?
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Re: Which came first: The Pokemon, or the Egg?
« Reply #5 on: August 08, 2011, 04:27:50 AM »
I think the egg came first but of course how the egg came to be is the big question and i think its a mystery that cant really be solved.
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Re: Which came first: The Pokemon, or the Egg?
« Reply #6 on: August 08, 2011, 05:00:08 AM »
The Pokemon: simply because of two things.

1) No warmth, No hatching, and Eggs cant create anything O.o

2) Where would the egg have come from?

Exacty, and you can't just randomly have an egg.  Something had to have had it, but where that "something" came from i don't know, but an egg could not have come first.

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Re: Which came first: The Pokemon, or the Egg?
« Reply #7 on: August 08, 2011, 05:08:05 AM »
It was the egg.
At some point in time, an ancient creature very similar to a Pokemon laid an egg that hatched into a Pokemon as we know it, due to evolution.

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Re: Which came first: The Pokemon, or the Egg?
« Reply #8 on: August 08, 2011, 05:51:20 AM »
the pokemon came first simple as that, as the cell divides it eventually may get to a certain point where instead of splitting in two for reproduction it produces an egg in an asexual manner, then over time natural selection causes the union of two creatures to create an egg that will pass down the best genes of each parent therefore strengthening the natural selection. :)
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Re: Which came first: The Pokemon, or the Egg?
« Reply #9 on: August 08, 2011, 06:11:12 AM »
the pokemon came first simple as that, as the cell divides it eventually may get to a certain point where instead of splitting in two for reproduction it produces an egg in an asexual manner, then over time natural selection causes the union of two creatures to create an egg that will pass down the best genes of each parent therefore strengthening the natural selection. :)
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Re: Which came first: The Pokemon, or the Egg?
« Reply #10 on: August 08, 2011, 06:13:57 AM »
the pokemon came first simple as that, as the cell divides it eventually may get to a certain point where instead of splitting in two for reproduction it produces an egg in an asexual manner, then over time natural selection causes the union of two creatures to create an egg that will pass down the best genes of each parent therefore strengthening the natural selection. :)
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Re: Which came first: The Pokemon, or the Egg?
« Reply #11 on: August 08, 2011, 07:07:36 AM »
I basically believe in the universe, karma and positive energy.

So, I guess, Pokemon all started with a big bang.

seeing as it's Pokemon, a cartoon, i don't think logic has to take place so i believe the egg came first for your same reason.

In a same sense life is just a cartoon.
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Re: Which came first: The Pokemon, or the Egg?
« Reply #12 on: August 08, 2011, 09:19:26 AM »
For those of you who have one of the D/P/Pt games; Go to Canaclave Library and read the books there. Arcues was born from a giant egg made from nothing. It just popped up there and then hatched. From there the rest of the universe was made. Thats pretty much the answer. Its not like real world logic where it wouldn't make since if the egg just came from nowhere. This is pokemon...the laws of physics, philosiphy, and logic don't apply.
                                            
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Re: Which came first: The Pokemon, or the Egg?
« Reply #13 on: August 08, 2011, 09:46:51 AM »
For those of you who have one of the D/P/Pt games; Go to Canaclave Library and read the books there. Arcues was born from a giant egg made from nothing. It just popped up there and then hatched. From there the rest of the universe was made. Thats pretty much the answer. Its not like real world logic where it wouldn't make since if the egg just came from nowhere. This is pokemon...the laws of physics, philosiphy, and logic don't apply.
That's how I concluded my answer, straight from those games. Now I know that I'm not the only one that pays attention to dialogue.
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Re: Which came first: The Pokemon, or the Egg?
« Reply #14 on: August 08, 2011, 10:50:18 AM »
For those of you who have one of the D/P/Pt games; Go to Canaclave Library and read the books there. Arcues was born from a giant egg made from nothing. It just popped up there and then hatched. From there the rest of the universe was made. Thats pretty much the answer. Its not like real world logic where it wouldn't make since if the egg just came from nowhere. This is pokemon...the laws of physics, philosiphy, and logic don't apply.
That's how I concluded my answer, straight from those games. Now I know that I'm not the only one that pays attention to dialogue.
Derp i remember reading that.
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