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[CLOSED] The Elemental Elites (continues in the new thread)
Shadowfred:
First, it's Shadowfred, no capital F. Second, Hitmonlee only failed to kill a single Staraptor with Stone Edge, for all we know, that could have been the exact minimum of possible damage and considering it was left with 3 hp, that's not too shabby. Third, this is unlikely to be "fixed" as we're not balancing for monotype, we're balancing to pokemon in general. If it turns out that Staraptor is killing every goddamned pokemon then sure, we'll fix it.
Mr. Fox:
sorry for messing up your name. I am not complaining in any way, or trying to make your guys job any harder then it is already going to be.
The Hitmonlee wasn't running an Adamant nature, if he had been it would have been a sure OHKO, and as I said last post with the combined damage from Fake Out and Stone Edge it is a sure OHKO every time. You could probably even get away with using High Jump Kick to take it out if you wanted to. And as you pointed out in our little test battle people tend only to use one of a pokemon. So once you take it out, no problem. My problem is that the High Attack Low speed pokemon lost their priory moves causing them to lose the ability to come in and get those little revenge kills they used to be able to,and there is only 2 pokemon faster then 100 base speed, Infernape and Mienshao. But most Staraptors are scarfed negating that speed advantage unless they themselves are scarfed or are running a sash set. I just want to see a few more fight pokemon get a speed boost, or a few of the slower ones get some sort of priory. I just want it to be fair and not tilted towards who ever has the most speed.
Roloc:
--- Quote from: The Fox on December 11, 2011, 07:25:18 AM ---........... I just want it to be fair .....................
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Thats the problem. Everyone thinks things are OP so they run off to QQ(I am not saying you did) about it. If they really think something is unbalanced they need to post about it and give some well thought and good information telling why and even give some examples of why they think it is unbalanced. As shadowfred has said, they are not balancing around monotype teams. Yes your fighting team will have a heal of a time with fast flyers...and thats your fault for being mono fighting. I have the same problem with fast flyers.
I would like to point out that even though a yanmega can almost completely sweep my team by itself I do NOT think it is unbalanced. I thought out some plans and came up with several ways that I can now beat it without a problem.
But this is something we as monotype trainers are going to have to deal with.
--- Quote from: Shadowfred on December 11, 2011, 07:12:56 AM ---we're not balancing for monotype, we're balancing to pokemon in general.
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Deal with it.
Mr. Fox:
Lol Roloc. I don't cry over stupid stuff like this. Damn I would like to see pokemon like Primeape become top tier threats, I just like the idea of having a crazy monkey on my team. I mean the Balance team is doing a wonderful job, Furret is a monster with Quiver Dance and a life orb. I just want them to finish balancing fight so I can eat my words and really enjoy kicking mono flying teams butts.
Roloc:
--- Quote from: The Fox on December 11, 2011, 08:59:09 AM ---Lol Roloc. I don't cry over stupid stuff like this. Damn I would like to see pokemon like Primeape become top tier threats, I just like the idea of having a crazy monkey on my team. I mean the Balance team is doing a wonderful job, Furret is a monster with Quiver Dance and a life orb. I just want them to finish balancing fight so I can eat my words and really enjoy kicking mono flying teams butts.
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Wow I even put it in a bigger font and you still didn't see it.
Perhaps it needs to be bigger lol
--- Quote from: Roloc on December 11, 2011, 08:51:32 AM ---
--- Quote from: The Fox on December 11, 2011, 07:25:18 AM ---........... I just want it to be fair .....................
--- End quote ---
Thats the problem. Everyone thinks things are OP so they run off to QQ(I am not saying you did) about it. If they really think something is unbalanced they need to post about it and give some well thought and good information telling why and even give some examples of why they think it is unbalanced. As shadowfred has said, they are not balancing around monotype teams. Yes your fighting team will have a heal of a time with fast flyers...and thats your fault for being mono fighting. I have the same problem with fast flyers.
I would like to point out that even though a yanmega can almost completely sweep my team by itself I do NOT think it is unbalanced. I thought out some plans and came up with several ways that I can now beat it without a problem.
But this is something we as monotype trainers are going to have to deal with.
--- Quote from: Shadowfred on December 11, 2011, 07:12:56 AM ---we're not balancing for monotype, we're balancing to pokemon in general.
--- End quote ---
Deal with it.
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