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Re: Dragon Pokemon ..Need Help
« Reply #15 on: October 06, 2010, 02:23:00 am »
I still say that you go with flygon because he has great speed, sp. attack, and attack. My flygon knows draco meteor, dragon claw, earthquake, and heat wave. And the fact that it shouldnt really have a problem with ice types makes him awesomer. But if you dont want flygon, i would totally go with kingdra or salamence.

And why would u say he doesnt have a problem with ice? Ice is 4x effective against flygon

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Re: Dragon Pokemon ..Need Help
« Reply #16 on: October 06, 2010, 02:24:55 am »
Did it ever occur to you that he has high speed and can learn fire type moves such as fire blast, heat wave, etc. or moves like stone edge and such.

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Re: Dragon Pokemon ..Need Help
« Reply #17 on: October 06, 2010, 02:36:22 am »
I understand that, just sounds like ur saying hes immune to ice

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Re: Dragon Pokemon ..Need Help
« Reply #18 on: October 06, 2010, 03:12:32 am »
Did it ever occur to you that he has high speed and can learn fire type moves such as fire blast, heat wave, etc. or moves like stone edge and such.

Ice Shard has priority, like Quick Attack, and is the most commonly seen physical ice move in all metagames. And while those attacks work, they also have lower than optimal accuracies. Ice moves, in general, have 100%.

So, Flygon can do well against opposing Pokemon with an ice move. It's usually better to U-Turn out into something that can take it.
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Re: Dragon Pokemon ..Need Help
« Reply #19 on: October 06, 2010, 11:36:07 pm »
I dun like flygon...
:D When I pick my pokemon, I go as much with looks as I do with actual stats. Flygon kind of looks like a fly... I hate flies.
I've never used it myself, but Kingdra is a pretty good pokemon, and Dragonite is always a good choice, with the addition of making a lot of people (me) feel nostalgic.
Though, from that list, I'd say Garchomp, then Dragonite, then Salamence.
Not that Salamence isn't good, but...

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Re: Dragon Pokemon ..Need Help
« Reply #20 on: October 07, 2010, 12:32:37 am »
Not that Salamence isn't good, but...

He is as ugly as a rock.

But, I think I have a new favorite Dragon.

In all honesty, I can easily seem him being neutered from the OU metagame. His only STAB is Dragon, but he has an Attack close to Groudon's, great speed, learns Dragon Dance and Claw Sharpen, and has a pretty wicked move pool. Plus, he can always use an ice reduction berry. Ouch.

Still, finally: we get a good looking Dragon to back up all that power.
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Re: Dragon Pokemon ..Need Help
« Reply #21 on: October 07, 2010, 01:50:21 am »
Were you referring to Salamence or your new Pokemon As Ugly as a Rock?
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Re: Dragon Pokemon ..Need Help
« Reply #22 on: October 07, 2010, 01:55:06 am »
Not that Salamence isn't good, but...

He is as ugly as a rock.

But, I think I have a new favorite Dragon.

In all honesty, I can easily seem him being neutered from the OU metagame. His only STAB is Dragon, but he has an Attack close to Groudon's, great speed, learns Dragon Dance and Claw Sharpen, and has a pretty wicked move pool. Plus, he can always use an ice reduction berry. Ouch.

Still, finally: we get a good looking Dragon to back up all that power.
Theres that dark/dragon hydra thing as well Sazandra was his name
He looks like he could be a good special sweeper. Yours has better stats though. I'll probably try and go for both, anyway.
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Re: Dragon Pokemon ..Need Help
« Reply #23 on: October 07, 2010, 02:08:46 am »
That dragon looks like a dinosuar! Oh, Shi-!

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Re: Dragon Pokemon ..Need Help
« Reply #24 on: October 14, 2010, 09:40:33 pm »
Did it ever occur to you that he has high speed and can learn fire type moves such as fire blast, heat wave, etc. or moves like stone edge and such.
and ur making the mistake of comparing flygon to ice types i mean ur right he can destroy most ice types if u ask me but another type of pokemon with an ice type move is what i would fear if i were u like a nidoking ... i don't care what attack flygon does he is not going to ko nidoking in one hit...so then an ice puch or ice beam and flygon is history. and nidoking is just one of many examples
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Re: Dragon Pokemon ..Need Help
« Reply #25 on: October 14, 2010, 09:43:36 pm »
I dun like flygon...
:D When I pick my pokemon, I go as much with looks as I do with actual stats. Flygon kind of looks like a fly... I hate flies.
I've never used it myself, but Kingdra is a pretty good pokemon, and Dragonite is always a good choice, with the addition of making a lot of people (me) feel nostalgic.
Though, from that list, I'd say Garchomp, then Dragonite, then Salamence.
Not that Salamence isn't good, but...

flygon is beautiful he is one of my favorite looking poke's yall are honestly the first ppl i ever heard say flygon didn't look good
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Re: Dragon Pokemon ..Need Help
« Reply #26 on: October 14, 2010, 10:10:26 pm »
Did it ever occur to you that he has high speed and can learn fire type moves such as fire blast, heat wave, etc. or moves like stone edge and such.
and ur making the mistake of comparing flygon to ice types i mean ur right he can destroy most ice types if u ask me but another type of pokemon with an ice type move is what i would fear if i were u like a nidoking ... i don't care what attack flygon does he is not going to ko nidoking in one hit...so then an ice puch or ice beam and flygon is history. and nidoking is just one of many examples

Nidoking is part Poison and weak to Ground Attacks. Flygon is faster than Nidoking. He can easily OHKO Nidoking with an Earthquake.
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Re: Dragon Pokemon ..Need Help
« Reply #27 on: October 14, 2010, 10:14:07 pm »
Try to condense your messages into a single post next time, deadae.
And flygon is ugly as an insect. If you find insects pretty, then I can undrstand why you might like flygon.

Anyway... In my humble opinion, there is a problem with the game if it is easy to OHKO when the levels are equal and neither of them have outrageously high stats.

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Re: Dragon Pokemon ..Need Help
« Reply #28 on: October 14, 2010, 10:53:02 pm »
Did it ever occur to you that he has high speed and can learn fire type moves such as fire blast, heat wave, etc. or moves like stone edge and such.
and ur making the mistake of comparing flygon to ice types i mean ur right he can destroy most ice types if u ask me but another type of pokemon with an ice type move is what i would fear if i were u like a nidoking ... i don't care what attack flygon does he is not going to ko nidoking in one hit...so then an ice puch or ice beam and flygon is history. and nidoking is just one of many examples

Nidoking is part Poison and weak to Ground Attacks. Flygon is faster than Nidoking. He can easily OHKO Nidoking with an Earthquake.
really...try it and see dude.nidoking would survive the earthquake i garuntee he will have between 70-30 hp left....for one a nidoking can't ko a nidoking in one earthquake actually very few can.... so if nidoking can't do it what makes u think flygon can...? here these may help u:


nidoking- HP 366 SPA 269 ATK 283 SPCLD 249
FLYGON- SPA 259 ATK 299

Earthquake

Base Power
100
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100
Move Type

Move Class
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10 (max. 16)Target
A random target (other than the user)
Priority
Normal
Other Conditions
OActivates King's Rock
OAcc.% Lowered by BrightPowder
XAffected by Snatch
XAffected by Magic Coat
OStopped by Protect or Detect
XIs a Direct Attack

oh and is that better frenchfry?
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Re: Dragon Pokemon ..Need Help
« Reply #29 on: October 14, 2010, 10:59:08 pm »
lol try it and see dude then come back with ur head down and mouth shut nidoking would survive the earthquake i garuntee it
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